but people who know they will never be able to be themselves anymore, should have the choice to end their lives :/
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ps: I think what I posted in my first post was somewhat controversial (relating to thiwy's post), but anywhoes, my grandfather died like a day before my birthday really long ago in a similar fashion. My dad being a doctor, was told to come urgently to the scene when we found out that he was sick. He died a few minutes prior to our arrival. But also I'd like to point out that kudos to panda for making the statement, "If you haven't experienced death in your life or death of someone you've loved, etc etc, you probably don't have much room to talk here".
yeah the people on the bridge in that video, killed their self to save others right, and so did everybody else that has committed suicide, correct?
Yeah i wasn't arguing on the youtube channel dipshit i was arguing with ice about
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there is NEVER a good enough reason to take your life. It's an easy way out and everyone knows it.
It may have been slightly off topic but yes it is a logical reason to commit suicide. And furthermore how the fuck do you know they didn't save more life by killing themselves. Maybe their family was being help hostage and would only be freed if they killed themselves. Don't be so closed minded dumbass.
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p.s face it, its peoples opinions, all I see is you and red-i arguing about peoples opinions, don't you live in New Zealand? Get a life and go to bed or something, what time is it over there?
Opionions maybe, could also be interpreted as a moral rule. "To preserve innocent life" If i had to kill myself to save more than one person surely that is a "GOOD" reason, and not just an opinion but a universal truth. It's 2:21 pm Friday afternoon. Get a life? Surely arguing about life is more fulfilling and more achieved than almost anything you have ever done. Dickhead.
Look niggeh I put that shit into complete simple words.
Why do you think you were brought here on earth? There is obviously going to be a lot of hardship in your life, but thats where you come in to decide what to do in order to get past it. If you simply kill yourself you failed your task as a human being and have absolute zero confidence or faith in yourself. Everybody has speed bumps in their lives and God puts obstacles in our way in order to see the outcome. Like I already said life is a test its up to you if you want to pass it. There is no reason why you should kill yourself which is why the strong and confident always survive. The way us religious folks see it is that first of all, you're being selfish to other people that know you because you will just make their lives feel worse. Secondly you're cheating your own "natural" death, this is frowned upon because God already has a death planned for which simply concludes suicide to be someone who is weak-hearted and the fact that, that person wouldn't have been a great follower. There is always something ahead of you in the future, really no reason why you should commit suicide.
ye but you get reincarnated in ur religion right? what do you get to be next? a snake?
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yeah the people on the bridge in that video, killed their self to save others right, and so did everybody else that has committed suicide, correct?
Yeah i wasn't arguing on the youtube channel dipshit i was arguing with ice about
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there is NEVER a good enough reason to take your life. It's an easy way out and everyone knows it.
It may have been slightly off topic but yes it is a logical reason to commit suicide. And furthermore how the fuck do you know they didn't save more life by killing themselves. Maybe their family was being help hostage and would only be freed if they killed themselves. Don't be so closed minded dumbass.
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p.s face it, its peoples opinions, all I see is you and red-i arguing about peoples opinions, don't you live in New Zealand? Get a life and go to bed or something, what time is it over there?
Opionions maybe, could also be interpreted as a moral rule. "To preserve innocent life" If i had to kill myself to save more than one person surely that is a "GOOD" reason, and not just an opinion but a universal truth. It's 2:21 pm Friday afternoon. Get a life? Surely arguing about life is more fulfilling and more achieved than almost anything you have ever done. Dickhead.
1. I don't give a fuck then, don't call anyone retarded when I agree with tek9 when he said committing suicide is stupid, HE WASN'T TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE COMMITTING SUICIDE FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
2. I think you're upset people don't have the same opinion as yours, I think you're going to have to deal with it sometime, and not care..
3. Yeah considering I'm on the Internet arguing with someone because they don't like others opinions, but you don't need a life right? get over yourself ..
I'm done arguing with someone that gets angry with my opinion of committing suicide, pretty pointless. You can continue to argue with ice/lucky and tek9
Everyone arguing over my post regarding my beliefs in suicide is completely stupid. I will reiterate this AGAIN so you can understand, my beliefs regarding suicide are EXCLUSIVELY opinion and they weren't meant to be a contention towards anybody's point or to offend anyone. The only thing I do contend was gatman's statement that all religious people are narrow-minded is completely wrong and the most ridiculous comment I have ever read/heard, then you later say something like, "my view is superior to yours." You just make yourself look stupid when you say stuff like that, to EVERYONE. This is what I tried to argue and nothing else. Yet again, go to the bottom of page 6 and the read motels post along with mine. If it doesn't make sense to you, you are narrow-minded.
Look niggeh I put that shit into complete simple words.
Why do you think you were brought here on earth? There is obviously going to be a lot of hardship in your life, but thats where you come in to decide what to do in order to get past it. If you simply kill yourself you failed your task as a human being and have absolute zero confidence or faith in yourself. Everybody has speed bumps in their lives and God puts obstacles in our way in order to see the outcome. Like I already said life is a test its up to you if you want to pass it. There is no reason why you should kill yourself which is why the strong and confident always survive. The way us religious folks see it is that first of all, you're being selfish to other people that know you because you will just make their lives feel worse. Secondly you're cheating your own "natural" death, this is frowned upon because God already has a death planned for which simply concludes suicide to be someone who is weak-hearted and the fact that, that person wouldn't have been a great follower. There is always something ahead of you in the future, really no reason why you should commit suicide.
ye but you get reincarnated in ur religion right? what do you get to be next? a snake?
The definition of a moron. You can see this guy's picture next to the word, "dumbass" in the dictionary.
yeah the people on the bridge in that video, killed their self to save others right, and so did everybody else that has committed suicide, correct?
Yeah i wasn't arguing on the youtube channel dipshit i was arguing with ice about
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there is NEVER a good enough reason to take your life. It's an easy way out and everyone knows it.
It may have been slightly off topic but yes it is a logical reason to commit suicide. And furthermore how the fuck do you know they didn't save more life by killing themselves. Maybe their family was being help hostage and would only be freed if they killed themselves. Don't be so closed minded dumbass.
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p.s face it, its peoples opinions, all I see is you and red-i arguing about peoples opinions, don't you live in New Zealand? Get a life and go to bed or something, what time is it over there?
Opionions maybe, could also be interpreted as a moral rule. "To preserve innocent life" If i had to kill myself to save more than one person surely that is a "GOOD" reason, and not just an opinion but a universal truth. It's 2:21 pm Friday afternoon. Get a life? Surely arguing about life is more fulfilling and more achieved than almost anything you have ever done. Dickhead.
1. I don't give a fuck then, don't call anyone retarded when I agree with tek9 when he said committing suicide is stupid, HE WASN'T TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE COMMITTING SUICIDE FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
2. I think you're upset people don't have the same opinion as yours, I think you're going to have to deal with it sometime, and not care..
3. Yeah considering I'm on the Internet arguing with someone because they don't like others opinions, but you don't need a life right? get over yourself ..
I'm done arguing with someone that gets angry with my opinion of committing suicide, pretty pointless. You can continue to argue with ice/lucky and tek9
1. You are retarded, this has nothing to do with tek9's post don't try back your way out of this. You clarely replied to my post saying
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yeah the people on the bridge in that video, killed their self to save others right, and so did everybody else that has committed suicide, correct?
Your post wasn't on point and further-still was idiotic.
2. I am frustrated i cannot deny that. All i am trying to do is give another perspective to make you think out of the normality.
3. I don't like opinions, that's my opinion so stop arguing with my opinion you hypercritical retard.
Look niggeh I put that shit into complete simple words.
Why do you think you were brought here on earth? There is obviously going to be a lot of hardship in your life, but thats where you come in to decide what to do in order to get past it. If you simply kill yourself you failed your task as a human being and have absolute zero confidence or faith in yourself. Everybody has speed bumps in their lives and God puts obstacles in our way in order to see the outcome. Like I already said life is a test its up to you if you want to pass it. There is no reason why you should kill yourself which is why the strong and confident always survive. The way us religious folks see it is that first of all, you're being selfish to other people that know you because you will just make their lives feel worse. Secondly you're cheating your own "natural" death, this is frowned upon because God already has a death planned for which simply concludes suicide to be someone who is weak-hearted and the fact that, that person wouldn't have been a great follower. There is always something ahead of you in the future, really no reason why you should commit suicide.
ye but you get reincarnated in ur religion right? what do you get to be next? a snake?
Gonna be a geeky hpt admin and clickbot in a virtual community.
O WAIT DAS YEW NIGGEH.
AND YA' HO ABOUT IT TOO, GIVE HER HARD COCK. SHE TREAT THE BALLLLLLLS LIKE HALLLLLLLLLLS......THATS COUGH DROPS
JESUS TECHNICALLY COMMITED SUICIDE TO SAVE YOUR SINS. So again another fucking logical reason to take your life is to save others.
Gatman 2 - Ice 0 - Religion 0
that's a terrible example.
So killing yourself to save others is a terrible example?
Get the fuck out you dimwitted retard lmfao.
And again ice, motels post would make sense if i was taking sides. But i don't, i will listen to any argument or belief. I try to be as open minded as possible, i not only accept your believes but i respect them. I was just giving you examples or exception flaws in your belief of there is no good reason to commit suicide.
i was saying it's a terrible example of killing yourself as a legitimate way out. he didn't willingly let himself be killed because he couldn't handle his life he did it for the betterment of mankind, so says the bible. i seriously doubt any of those people or even 1% of the people who commit suicide do it for that reason.
Look niggeh I put that shit into complete simple words.
Why do you think you were brought here on earth? There is obviously going to be a lot of hardship in your life, but thats where you come in to decide what to do in order to get past it. If you simply kill yourself you failed your task as a human being and have absolute zero confidence or faith in yourself. Everybody has speed bumps in their lives and God puts obstacles in our way in order to see the outcome. Like I already said life is a test its up to you if you want to pass it. There is no reason why you should kill yourself which is why the strong and confident always survive. The way us religious folks see it is that first of all, you're being selfish to other people that know you because you will just make their lives feel worse. Secondly you're cheating your own "natural" death, this is frowned upon because God already has a death planned for which simply concludes suicide to be someone who is weak-hearted and the fact that, that person wouldn't have been a great follower. There is always something ahead of you in the future, really no reason why you should commit suicide.
this is true
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and then you call me a retard for agreeing with tek9, because that's my opinion, please shut the fuck up, and sorry that I don't read yours and ice/luckys argument to read you trying to make everyone have the same opinion as you, get the fuck out
JESUS TECHNICALLY COMMITED SUICIDE TO SAVE YOUR SINS. So again another fucking logical reason to take your life is to save others.
Gatman 2 - Ice 0 - Religion 0
that's a terrible example.
So killing yourself to save others is a terrible example?
Get the fuck out you dimwitted retard lmfao.
And again ice, motels post would make sense if i was taking sides. But i don't, i will listen to any argument or belief. I try to be as open minded as possible, i not only accept your believes but i respect them. I was just giving you examples or exception flaws in your belief of there is no good reason to commit suicide.
i was saying it's a terrible example of killing yourself as a legitimate way out. he didn't willingly let himself be killed because he couldn't handle his life he did it for the betterment of mankind, so says the bible. i seriously doubt any of those people or even 1% of the people who commit suicide do it for that reason.
JESUS TECHNICALLY COMMITED SUICIDE TO SAVE YOUR SINS. So again another fucking logical reason to take your life is to save others.
Gatman 2 - Ice 0 - Religion 0
that's a terrible example.
So killing yourself to save others is a terrible example?
Get the fuck out you dimwitted retard lmfao.
And again ice, motels post would make sense if i was taking sides. But i don't, i will listen to any argument or belief. I try to be as open minded as possible, i not only accept your believes but i respect them. I was just giving you examples or exception flaws in your belief of there is no good reason to commit suicide.
i was saying it's a terrible example of killing yourself as a legitimate way out. he didn't willingly let himself be killed because he couldn't handle his life he did it for the betterment of mankind, so says the bible. i seriously doubt any of those people or even 1% of the people who commit suicide do it for that reason.
But if there was a person who did it, it would be a good reason to commit suicide. To save others. Which is my point, that there can be good reasons to commit suicide, gosh.
And to say that Jesus didn't commit suicide it depends how you define suicide. If you define suicide as doing an action because you know you will die, he did commit suicide. If you define suicide as doing an action and only dying from your own hand, did didn't.
And i am sure there have been examples to commit suicide to save lives. And even if there haven't THERE CAN BE. All you need is an example of a serial killer giving a police captain the option to let all his men die in the room with him or sparing their lives by killing himself.
JESUS TECHNICALLY COMMITED SUICIDE TO SAVE YOUR SINS. So again another fucking logical reason to take your life is to save others.
Gatman 2 - Ice 0 - Religion 0
that's a terrible example.
So killing yourself to save others is a terrible example?
Get the fuck out you dimwitted retard lmfao.
And again ice, motels post would make sense if i was taking sides. But i don't, i will listen to any argument or belief. I try to be as open minded as possible, i not only accept your believes but i respect them. I was just giving you examples or exception flaws in your belief of there is no good reason to commit suicide.
i was saying it's a terrible example of killing yourself as a legitimate way out. he didn't willingly let himself be killed because he couldn't handle his life he did it for the betterment of mankind, so says the bible. i seriously doubt any of those people or even 1% of the people who commit suicide do it for that reason.
JESUS TECHNICALLY COMMITED SUICIDE TO SAVE YOUR SINS. So again another fucking logical reason to take your life is to save others.
Gatman 2 - Ice 0 - Religion 0
that's a terrible example.
So killing yourself to save others is a terrible example?
Get the fuck out you dimwitted retard lmfao.
And again ice, motels post would make sense if i was taking sides. But i don't, i will listen to any argument or belief. I try to be as open minded as possible, i not only accept your believes but i respect them. I was just giving you examples or exception flaws in your belief of there is no good reason to commit suicide.
i was saying it's a terrible example of killing yourself as a legitimate way out. he didn't willingly let himself be killed because he couldn't handle his life he did it for the betterment of mankind, so says the bible. i seriously doubt any of those people or even 1% of the people who commit suicide do it for that reason.
JESUS TECHNICALLY COMMITED SUICIDE TO SAVE YOUR SINS. So again another fucking logical reason to take your life is to save others.
Gatman 2 - Ice 0 - Religion 0
that's a terrible example.
So killing yourself to save others is a terrible example?
Get the fuck out you dimwitted retard lmfao.
And again ice, motels post would make sense if i was taking sides. But i don't, i will listen to any argument or belief. I try to be as open minded as possible, i not only accept your believes but i respect them. I was just giving you examples or exception flaws in your belief of there is no good reason to commit suicide.
i was saying it's a terrible example of killing yourself as a legitimate way out. he didn't willingly let himself be killed because he couldn't handle his life he did it for the betterment of mankind, so says the bible. i seriously doubt any of those people or even 1% of the people who commit suicide do it for that reason.
Theres no point to life, so the only goal is to enjoy it or improve life in a way that others will enjoy it even more. Regarding morality, we understand what morality is based on benefits vs side effects. Even if to the single individual the benefits are great, that individual may understand that the side effects to others are greater, and as a result not make a certain choice. Whether those benefits and side effects are correctly assessed is a different question. If a person know for a fact (given that the belief is correct) there will be less benefit to living on than ending his or her life, he or she should do it. Suicide can be a good decision though more often than not it is the wrong one. A person ready to give up his life can find pleasure in helping others.
Theres no point to life, so the only goal is to enjoy it or improve life in a way that others will enjoy it even more. Regarding morality, we understand what morality is based on benefits vs side effects. Even if to the single individual the benefits are great, that individual may understand that the side effects to others are greater, and as a result not make a certain choice. Whether those benefits and side effects are correctly assessed is a different question. If a person know for a fact (given that the belief is correct) there will be less benefit to living on than ending his or her life, he or she should do it. Suicide can be a good decision though more often than not it is the wrong one. A person ready to give up his life can find pleasure in helping others.
There is no reason why you should kill yourself which is why the strong and confident always survive.
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and then you call me a retard for agreeing with tek9, because that's my opinion, please shut the fuck up, and sorry that I don't read yours and ice/luckys argument to read you trying to make everyone have the same opinion as you, get the fuck out
Yea your opinion is fucking stupid. Obviously even you can think of one example where committing suicide is the right thing to do. Just because you are entitled to an opinion doesn't mean it cannot be proven wrong.
Just see the flaw in your opinion/belief, I'm not saying its completely wrong, i am giving an example of how it isn't correct worded like that. When you realize that i have a point, it's going to be harder for me to make you look so stupid.