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Topic Started: May 1 2011, 09:49 PM (6,626 Views)
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yes...they would shoot down both planes flying over NYC....one of the most populated cities in the world, would definitely have yielded better results.

also curious as to how they're gonna shoot down planes in the middle of the sea without sending fighters after them which costs enough as it is.
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"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that."
http://studentactivism.net/2011/05/03/mlk-obl-quote/
It's actually not an MLK quote

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/social.media/05/03/quotes.twain.mlk/index.html?hpt=T2
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May 2 2011, 05:17 AM
There have always been two likely possibilities.

1. OBL was/is dead and has been for a long time.
2. OBL was/is still working with the CIA and was/is being kept safe by them.

Pakistani Secret Service, CIA and OBL worked together in the early 80s via Operation Cyclone. It was and still is unclear when their cooperation ended. (If it ever did)

If true, it’s no surprise he was being kept safe in Pakistan all this time.

My educated guess is OBL had never stopped working with the CIA and may have just died of old age recently.

Giving credit of his death to Obama is their way of ensuring he will be able to control and manipulate the people of the united states more effectively for his next presidential term.

Don’t get the wrong idea either, presidential elections are indeed fixed.

Obama has already been chosen to win the next election but they want to make sure he is able to influence as many minds as possible by bolstering his image as “the savior” who killed OBL.

No coincidence announcing this on “may day” either.

Hitlers death was also announced on May 1st 66 years ago.

5/1

Do you know who the 51st president of the united states is?


CIA is really good at getting rid of evidence as usual though.

They sent all the WTC scraps over seas as soon as humanly possible.
Now they send OBL’s body into the sea the same day they supposedly killed him.
At least they are somewhat consistent.

*scratch that, they're ridiculously consistent.
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but anyway, when i said ask someone stationed there, im saying that because they obviously have better knowledge of whats going on than what we do. the point of me saying they could enlarge something as small as an ant wasn't to point out how well we can magnify. im saying about how good our technology is. if we can do that to something as miniscule as an ant, why wouldn't we be able to track one of the most dangerous men on the face of the earth.
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May 4 2011, 01:49 AM
Announcing? Should we not have announced his death? I'm confused by that aspect of your question.


Why does it have to be a strategic value?


There's plenty of value in his death. He was a murderer. He deserved it. He was an enemy not just of us, but world wide as well.

It's a moral boost to those here because he has evaded us for 10-20 some odd years. He was a face for terrorism and everything anti-american. His death (though not ending anything) provides hope that one day all this shit over there will be over with. It provides confidence to the American people that our government is still doing whatever it can to protect us.

I already stated sure he may not have been running anything anymore (but that's speculation as well). It'll be interesting to see what they find on all those dvds/cds and other information obtained from his hideout and whether or not those will be released. The man was behind 18 foot walls for a reason and didn't have phone or internet for a reason as well.

Man I wish I knew of a type of organization that wouldn't want any type of technology connected to their house that would be able to trace/bug their hide out. HMMMMMM

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"its a good idea to celebrate victories."

Well what provoked the celebration?
Pronouncement of Osama's death.

So i'm asking if you think pronouncement of Osama's death was a good idea. Wouldn't that just make him a martyr? Wouldn't that possibly just inspire more hatred/dislike (and thus theoretically, danger) for anyone who does see Osama as something like a noble crusader?

Why announce his death? Never announce it, and he just fades into oblivion. announce it, and hes more like a martyr.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the photos are leaked in the near future now that the Administration has formally distanced itself from the photo release.
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Announcing? Should we not have announced his death? I'm confused by that aspect of your question.


Why does it have to be a strategic value?


There's plenty of value in his death. He was a murderer. He deserved it. He was an enemy not just of us, but world wide as well.

It's a moral boost to those here because he has evaded us for 10-20 some odd years. He was a face for terrorism and everything anti-american. His death (though not ending anything) provides hope that one day all this shit over there will be over with. It provides confidence to the American people that our government is still doing whatever it can to protect us.

I already stated sure he may not have been running anything anymore (but that's speculation as well). It'll be interesting to see what they find on all those dvds/cds and other information obtained from his hideout and whether or not those will be released. The man was behind 18 foot walls for a reason and didn't have phone or internet for a reason as well.

Man I wish I knew of a type of organization that wouldn't want any type of technology connected to their house that would be able to trace/bug their hide out. HMMMMMM

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"its a good idea to celebrate victories."

Well what provoked the celebration?
Pronouncement of Osama's death.

So i'm asking if you think pronouncement of Osama's death was a good idea. Wouldn't that just make him a martyr? Wouldn't that possibly just inspire more hatred/dislike (and thus theoretically, danger) for anyone who does see Osama as something like a noble crusader?

Why announce his death? Never announce it, and he just fades into oblivion. announce it, and hes more like a martyr.
I was discussing this earlier wit my professor.. good point
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May 4 2011, 01:33 PM
who gives a fuck. its about stopping the violence, not about propaganda tools.



if photos are released its just gonna piss people off (alalalllaalala)



and im sure theyll be online eventually, shit like that doesnt stay hidden
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"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that."
http://studentactivism.net/2011/05/03/mlk-obl-quote/
It's actually not an MLK quote

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/social.media/05/03/quotes.twain.mlk/index.html?hpt=T2
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"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that."
http://studentactivism.net/2011/05/03/mlk-obl-quote/
It's actually not an MLK quote

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/social.media/05/03/quotes.twain.mlk/index.html?hpt=T2
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May 4 2011, 05:04 PM
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May 4 2011, 01:49 AM
Announcing? Should we not have announced his death? I'm confused by that aspect of your question.


Why does it have to be a strategic value?


There's plenty of value in his death. He was a murderer. He deserved it. He was an enemy not just of us, but world wide as well.

It's a moral boost to those here because he has evaded us for 10-20 some odd years. He was a face for terrorism and everything anti-american. His death (though not ending anything) provides hope that one day all this shit over there will be over with. It provides confidence to the American people that our government is still doing whatever it can to protect us.

I already stated sure he may not have been running anything anymore (but that's speculation as well). It'll be interesting to see what they find on all those dvds/cds and other information obtained from his hideout and whether or not those will be released. The man was behind 18 foot walls for a reason and didn't have phone or internet for a reason as well.

Man I wish I knew of a type of organization that wouldn't want any type of technology connected to their house that would be able to trace/bug their hide out. HMMMMMM

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"its a good idea to celebrate victories."

Well what provoked the celebration?
Pronouncement of Osama's death.

So i'm asking if you think pronouncement of Osama's death was a good idea. Wouldn't that just make him a martyr? Wouldn't that possibly just inspire more hatred/dislike (and thus theoretically, danger) for anyone who does see Osama as something like a noble crusader?

Why announce his death? Never announce it, and he just fades into oblivion. announce it, and hes more like a martyr.
No it wouldn't make him a martyr. Only a minority group of people even followed him. I mean you think Islamic people in general approved of his actions?

lol no the majority of people are happy he is dead.

And never announce it, and people just criticize our government for not being able to catch him (and also allows for more stupid conspiracy theories).
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honestly this is what i think about this death:

point #1: has anyone seen osama on a magazine that wasnt something like the national enquirer? honestly have you? the american public completely forgot about osama up to this point and really didnt care, nor did it seem to affect their life and everyone had seemed to have moved on from 9/11 (shit was almost a decade ago, if someone cant let that go in their life then they need therapy) until osamas death

point #2: i truly think that this is a complete political stint. there is no way that osama is going to have been 35 miles outside of pakistans capital and not be known to be living there. i honestly dont think that this political stint is to force re-election for obama, but as a political stint to reinforce americas opinion on the war on terrorism. if the government can gain the support of the people for the war on terrorism, theyll have more support from congress to continue having troops in the middle east.

point #3(kinda combined with point #2): if they continue to have troops in the middle east, theyll continue to have the control of the oil. the war on terrorism isnt really a war on terrorism, its obviously a war over oil because of the lack of oil in the world today. this is all a political stint, to gain the support of the american public, gain popularity points with the president, and still be able to have control of most of the worlds oil.

THIS KILLING IS NOT A FAKE, they knew where he was the whole time. im sure they were just waiting until the perfect time to kill him in their opinions.
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I think it's a bit presumptuous to assume they knew where he was the whole time....lol


I don't see how we would 'forget' about him. 9/11 comes around every year and every year it's the same topic (Where's Osama?).


Now finally maybe we'll see a change..
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I think it's a bit presumptuous to assume they knew where he was the whole time....lol


I don't see how we would 'forget' about him. 9/11 comes around every year and every year it's the same topic (Where's Osama?).


Now finally maybe we'll see a change..
lol? now that its 10 years later, before osama died, did you talk about 9/11 AT ALL, like literally AT ALL, other than during the week or so time period that it came around, and how often did you even mention it?

if you mentioned it, well then first of all youre retarded to think that it was completely a terrorist attack, and 2nd well then i guess youre just very patriotic

and you legitimately think that the united states wouldnt know where osama was the entire time? its been a decade and he was #1 on the fbis most wanted list (right?) and they spent a shitload of money funneling troops into the middle east. i mean for fucks sakes, he was only 35 miles out of the capital of pakistan right? i mean obviously i havent been there but im sure right now the middle east is basically the united states in a military state, troops everywhere, im sure they know what the fuck is going on there right?

the government is brilliant what can i say, they really had NO DOWNFALL AT ALL to them for this death, it just created a bad image for the american public who didnt realize this was a complete political stint and rushed into it celebrating WOOOOO smokin 7 gram rocks, das how i roll, winning!

EFFECTS OF THIS DEATH: popularity percentage up, gained support for troops in the middle east (always seems to happen every 2-4 years when support is dying down, this is another point inside of a point l0l, werent we just crying to pull troops out of the middle east not even a year ago? now that this happened there seems to be more support right?), and more money for the big wigs with oil there

i dont see how you dont understand this, is there a downfall anywhere?
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lol? now that its 10 years later, before osama died, did you talk about 9/11 AT ALL, like literally AT ALL, other than during the week or so time period that it came around, and how often did you even mention it?


I didn't talk about it often, but I'd say the subject was brought up at least once a month. I also don't represent everyone and neither do you. You assume to much to know what the other 6 billion people in the world are talking about.

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if you mentioned it, well then first of all youre retarded to think that it was completely a terrorist attack, and 2nd well then i guess youre just very patriotic


I'm retarded to think it was a terrorist attack? How so? That doesn't even make sense. What else was it?

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and you legitimately think that the united states wouldnt know where osama was the entire time? its been a decade and he was #1 on the fbis most wanted list (right?) and they spent a shitload of money funneling troops into the middle east. i mean for fucks sakes, he was only 35 miles out of the capital of pakistan right? i mean obviously i havent been there but im sure right now the middle east is basically the united states in a military state, troops everywhere, im sure they know what the fuck is going on there right?


What motive would the United States have for knowing where he is the whole time and not doing anything about it? Don't be a tool and say oil.

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the government is brilliant what can i say, they really had NO DOWNFALL AT ALL to them for this death, it just created a bad image for the american public who didnt realize this was a complete political stint and rushed into it celebrating WOOOOO smokin 7 gram rocks, das how i roll, winning!


Dark day when killing people is merely a political stunt. I'd hope we were a bit better than that.

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EFFECTS OF THIS DEATH: popularity percentage up, gained support for troops in the middle east (always seems to happen every 2-4 years when support is dying down, this is another point inside of a point l0l, werent we just crying to pull troops out of the middle east not even a year ago? now that this happened there seems to be more support right?), and more money for the big wigs with oil there

i dont see how you dont understand this, is there a downfall anywhere?


All that is coincidental unfortunately. You can't prove any of it, and until you do it's really pointless to try and hammer it through to people. I mean you act like every person in the government is in cohoots to screw over everyone else not in the loop.

Not only would that be ridiculously difficult to pull off with no leaks, it's completely bullshit.

Now understandably is there corruption? Of course. Where there is power and authority there will always be some corruption, but the scale that some of you conspiracy people talk on is quite insane. Innocent until proven guilty.
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ahahah "you'd hope"

well nigga....welcome to reality.....

The US government isn't the Utopia you're making it out to be...
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are you shitting me? who the fuck talks about the 9/11 attacks, i mean shit im in a political science class at my university and we talk about the cold war more than the "war on terrorism," and shit sure i guess other countries could talk about the 9/11 attacks, regardless of how little it really even means to them at all so who gives a fuck about the other people in the world's standpoint?

to answer your 2nd point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w-G_Ru-x2M
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and how can you not say its oil? there is no where else in the world that you can get oil like you can in the middle east, and if you think about it, if you have a military police state controlling "democracy" in the middle east (not saying that they arent trying to spread capitalism/democracy there, but its a good way to shine good light to the public about keeping troops there), they obviously have control of the oil, which is basically the worlds gold, right?

youre looking at the world as an idealistic world, which it really isnt, you have to realize one day that the world is based off of corruption and money.. no one thinks about the world in a salvation army style standpoint, if they really cared about saving the lives of individuals, would they not go to sudan and stop the genocide? they dont give a fuck about how many people die and thats a fact, 9k-12k(?im not sure of the exact number) people have died in this war total, entailing the 9/11 attacks and the number of people dead in the middle east (im sure its higher than 12k if you include troops and innocent individuals)

of course its fucking coincidental because they did it on purpose, think about this. there is absolutely no way that pakistan wouldnt know that osama is staying in an actual house (regardless of how shitty it was) only 35 miles outside of the capital. if pakistan had known this, and didnt release the information to the united states government (who was in such hot pursuit of him for 10 years (lol)) would that not create cause for war?

you know, my theory about this whole deal is that there will be a new "enemy" in the "war on terrorism (aka oil)" in the next 9-12 months, whether it be an entire country or a new leader of al qaeda, there will be something to motivate the people of the united states to support the troops staying in the middle east
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ahahah "you'd hope"

well nigga....welcome to reality.....

The US government isn't the Utopia you're making it out to be...
Well I clearly never said it was a Utopia. It's far from that, but it's certainly not a room full of people only looking after their interests, which is basically what you are implying.

inb4 more oil talk


The US government isn't the murderers you're making them out to be either..
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ahahah "you'd hope"

well nigga....welcome to reality.....

The US government isn't the Utopia you're making it out to be...
Well I clearly never said it was a Utopia. It's far from that, but it's certainly not a room full of people only looking after their interests, which is basically what you are implying.

inb4 more oil talk


The US government isn't the murderers you're making them out to be either..
the united states may or may not be murderers, we may never know what exactly happened on 9/11, but a lot of it is pretty clear to me now that that was a set up attack. i honestly was against the conspirators and completely didnt believe that idea until osamas death. im not sure if osamas death is directly related to the 9/11 attacks in a conspiracy sense, but it may be or may not be completely faked (i know i started to change my viewpoint from earlier in the thread).

the united states has never been a country to get into something that doesnt make them money. example: WWII, the united states obviously didnt WANT to get involved in this because of the fact that they believed there wouldnt be much of an income generated from the war. obviously this changed when japan attacked pearl harbor and they were forced to go into war.

note a similarity to WWII with the fact that the U.S. didn't want to get involved for financial reasons to Sudan (l0l, you want to fight a war on terror? i think this is one of the greatest terrors to ever have touched this planet amirite?)

#1. Cost of the "War on Terrorism in the Middle East": http://costofwar.com/en/

#2. How much money the United States has spent on helping the genocide in Sudan: http://www.newsweek.com/2010/09/24/is-massive-u-s-aid-helping-south-sudan.html

$300 million a year for a place where over 300,000 have died and almost 3 million have been made to leave their homes???? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3496731.stm) plz compare to the ever growing amount for the war on terror

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle08.asp?xfile=data/international/2011/April/international_April1122.xml&section=international

http://www.sudantribune.com/South-Sudan-SAF-clashes-in-Upper,37899

this is not terrorism? (i know you never said this isnt a form of terrorism, but youre saying the united states isnt in the middle east for oil) they do not care about how many people die, otherwise they wouldve stopped this at this point
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9/11 was a false flag operation by our government to get support invading foreign countries. Most of the "terrorist" were trained by the CIA. This is documented. The bin laden family and the bush family share a ammunition company together called the Carlye group. Terrorism is used to keep the public "scared, and ignorant". Look at the raise in gas prices, this is and always has been about oil, right we now have the technology to completely get away from oil yet we choose not to. Our society is on a crash course as we know it because we continue to ignore intelligence and use up all our non renewable natural resources. We need to take advantage of solar, wind and water energy (tho not profitable by the government, it will be beneficial to everyday people). Look at how the rich power hungry bankers weaseled the federal reserve into play even tho that's what we were trying to get away from during the American revolution. UNDERSTAND, and RESEARCH how our system actually works, HOW THE FED MAKES MONEY FROM NOTHING, AND LOANS IT TO US WITH INTEREST ON IT, ALL MONEY IS DEBT. Now take a look at the political boost after they announced osama dead, Look how many people in this country actually don't think that mainstream news company's aren't payed to report select story's, It's going to take a rise just like in Egypt to wake people up, and unless we stand up now, its just a ticking time bomb.


And at this point if you can look at all the evidence as a whole, 9/11 was a inside JOB
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