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| eager | Mar 6 2015, 08:35 AM Post #1251 |
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No, I don't think 3 point shooting is an important part of a team that is nearly dead last in 3PA. It's not nearly as important as it is for say GSW, ATL or HOU. MEM is not a 3 pt shooting team. Do I think they need to be a 3 pt shooting team to be successful in the playoffs? No. They weren't when they took the Thunder to 7 last year, or when they made the WCF. LAC and HOU have relied on 3 pt shooting throughout the playoffs the last few years; where did that get them? |
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| eager | Mar 6 2015, 08:51 AM Post #1252 |
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Which players have improved?: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ATL/2015.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ATL/2014.html You mentioned Jeff Teague before, I'm curious who you're talking about now. Keep in mind that for the 30 games Horford was healthy last year, the Hawks didn't have anywhere near the .80 winning % they're having this year (they were 17-13 before Horford's injury). Edited by eager, Mar 6 2015, 11:09 AM.
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| eager | Mar 6 2015, 10:02 AM Post #1253 |
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The gameplan argument makes no sense because the Hawks aren't putting extra time in to gameplan against the West. It's not like they hold practice on Tuesday and gameplan against the Warriors, play the Wizards on Wednesday, gameplan against the Warriors again on Thursday and then play them on Friday. The Hawks are going up against Western teams with the same amount of preparation that the Western teams have. They have the record they have against the West because they are elite. Playing in the East has nothing to do with how good they are, although it does inflate their overall record. |
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| Trapt | Mar 6 2015, 11:32 AM Post #1254 |
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I still don't understand how you guys can not take into account the fact that the majority of teams the Hawks are playing against are inferior eastern conference opponents. For example the hawks have a stretch coming up (25th-4th) where they play 6 eastern conference teams in a row (Magic, Heat, Hornets, Bucks, Pistons Nets). All but one of these teams are above .500 for the year. In fact only 6 teams in the conference have winning records. In comparison, look at a team like Houston who have a 6 game stretch (1st-12th) where they play 6 western conference teams (Kings, mavs, Thunder, Spurs 2x, Pelicans). All but 1 of these teams are over .500 for the year and a total of 10 teams within the conference have winning records.How does this not play into account as to why the Hawks are having such a good season? The talent is just not there in the east. The fact of the matter is that playing in the east is beneficial to the hawks success. You guys are nitpicking at these little points like oh well the hawks had the same team last year why didn't they do good..or oh hey horford played X amount of games last year and the hawks were barely over 500. Who gives a crap? Just look at the obvious. Outside of the cavs the rest of the east just isn't that good. Factor in injuries, Pacers losing George, Knicks losing Carmelo (granted they still suck but having Carmelo makes an impact, Wade has missed a lot of games, Bosh is out for season, Kemba Walker is out, everyone on the Chicago roster is out eternity..and it shouldn't be a surprise that a team like Atlanta with another year under its belt who has been relatively unimpacted with injuries this season is having such a good year. Sure the hawks have done well against western conference teams but they are not going up against those teams on a nightly basis. That plays a huge factor, physically and mentally for a team. If you don't think that any of this plays a role in anything then I don't know what to tell you. ps- "Playing in the East has nothing to do with how good they are, although it does inflate their overall record." I just realized that you somewhat acknowledged this but I still think you are underestimating how much value it holds playing eastern conference teams on a nightly basis versus being in the west and going up against much better talent. If the hawks were a western conference team I do not believe their record would anyone near what it is now. I do however, believe that they would still be a playoff team in the west but as far as having the run in which they are having right now..can't see that happening. Reason being, like i said before teams would have better gameplans going against them 4 times versus twice and the fact that it is much harder going up against western conference teams (meaning physically and mentally on the players and team as a whole) on a nightly basis than east. Edited by Trapt, Mar 6 2015, 11:49 AM.
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| eager | Mar 6 2015, 10:42 PM Post #1255 |
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Teams would have better gameplans against the Hawks if they played them 4 times, and the Hawks would have better gameplans against them. It goes both ways. Ignoring the gimmes they win in the East, they still have the best record in the NBA against above .500 teams and have dominated the Western playoff teams. You seem to be hung up on the idea that the East is historically weak this season, so why don't we just compare the East to last season: West record vs. the East 2013-2014 284-166 (0.63 win %) West record vs the East 2014-2015 (ongoing) 210-154 (0.58 win %) While the East is still bad, it is more competitive with the West than it was last year. This means the Hawks historic season is coming in a conference that is tougher than the one the Miami Heat played in last year. All of the evidence points to the Hawks being an elite team, but you can't accept it because they don't have that one player you can point to and say "this is why they're good". It's why you think Melo and Bosh going down suddenly makes the East less competitive than last season. You're really hung up on the ESPN hype machine. |
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| Trapt | Mar 6 2015, 11:04 PM Post #1256 |
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i thought i said already i don't watch espn. maybe they just read the hpt forums. Glad to know that the analysts over there share the same opinioms as me though. Thanks for the input. ps-celtics put in work tonight. 8th seed bound. Possible 1st round meeting vs the cawks? Edited by Trapt, Mar 6 2015, 11:15 PM.
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| low | Mar 6 2015, 11:10 PM Post #1257 |
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havent watched the hawks much at all other than when they played the bucks. the bucks blew em out by 30 and they lost the other 2, whats so special about the hawks? i never understood why theyve been so good. is it just their 3 point shooting or mostly just a strong team chemistry? |
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| eager | Mar 6 2015, 11:43 PM Post #1258 |
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It's their team defense. They just shut down the Cavs offense tonight, who had been on a roll when all 5 of their starters played. They are ridiculously fast on close outs and Millsap/Horford clog the paint. It's no surprise their teamwork is incredible, Budenholzer spent 18 years with Popovich on the Spurs. Last year was his first season with the team. He deserves to win COY. |
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| Trapt | Mar 7 2015, 01:53 PM Post #1259 |
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can you imagine a buldenhozer vs pop showdown in a 7 game series. That would be something. also i thought this was pretty cool http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/chicago-student-wins--10-000-shooting-contest-bet-with-bulls--jimmy-butler-201823807.html Edited by Trapt, Mar 7 2015, 03:10 PM.
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| Deleted User | Mar 10 2015, 12:24 PM Post #1260 |
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who all has been to a game this season? i started going with a buddy of mine, and i've been to four so far. enjoyable experience, would recommend |
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| Trapt | Mar 10 2015, 12:45 PM Post #1261 |
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Went to celtics vs pelicans in January. It was awesome seeing Anthony Davis in person. Celtics put in work though. May try to get one more game in before the season ends. |
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| Louie | Mar 10 2015, 01:34 PM Post #1262 |
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haven't been to any knicks games this year, not worth it imo. |
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| Trapt | Mar 11 2015, 08:56 PM Post #1263 |
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Celtics just pulled off a huge win against grizzlies. Brad Stevens is quickly turning into one of the leagues best new coaches. One step closer to that 8th seed. |
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| Deleted User | Mar 12 2015, 06:16 PM Post #1264 |
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gg no re |
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| eager | Mar 13 2015, 04:12 AM Post #1265 |
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Kyrie dropped 57 on a fully healthy Spurs in SA.
Edited by eager, Mar 13 2015, 04:16 AM.
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| Trapt | Mar 15 2015, 05:55 PM Post #1266 |
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louie bracket challenge do it up. time to assert my dominance again. |
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| low | Mar 16 2015, 12:02 PM Post #1267 |
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been to 5 bucks games this year, only one was sold out, other 4 were about half full
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| low | Mar 16 2015, 12:04 PM Post #1268 |
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| eager | Mar 16 2015, 03:12 PM Post #1269 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pX8BXH3SJn0
Edited by eager, Mar 16 2015, 03:14 PM.
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| connybear | Mar 17 2015, 11:14 AM Post #1270 |
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ive been to a few magic games |
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| eager | Mar 27 2015, 04:28 AM Post #1271 |
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Well Durant is done. Now I think it'll come down to GSW/SAS/MEM/CLE. MEM has a chance if someone knocks out SAS for them. I don't see this CLE offense being stopped by anyone in the east. |
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| Trapt | Apr 14 2015, 09:23 PM Post #1272 |
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Playoff bound. Might as well squad up against the beasts of the east. Fuck Lebron. ps-I'm in love with this celtics team. Edited by Trapt, Apr 14 2015, 09:33 PM.
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| eager | Apr 15 2015, 09:04 AM Post #1273 |
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Cavs in 3. |
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| eager | Apr 16 2015, 12:25 AM Post #1274 |
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East Hawks 4 Nets 1 Cavs 4 Celts 0 Bulls 4 Bucks 2 Raps 4 Wiz 3 West Warriors 4 Pelicans 0 Rockets 4 Mavs 2 Spurs 4 Clippers 3 Grizzlies 4 Blazers 3 Edited by eager, Apr 16 2015, 12:27 AM.
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| low | Apr 16 2015, 12:30 AM Post #1275 |
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id be happy with 2 wins from the bucks, im gonna go to as many playoff games as i can, also i think the pelicans will be able to steal a game off of the warriors
Edited by low, Apr 16 2015, 12:30 AM.
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