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"It has nothing to do with the city of Milwaukee or anything like that because that's where I started my career,'' Jennings said. "They've been nothing but good to me. (Coach) Scott Skiles and (general manager) John Hammond have been good to me. It's just that I'm understanding the business of basketball now.''

i uhh think that sums it up homie
no one is gonna publicly say "this team blows, management is incompetent" lol.. statements like that mean nothing.

the truth is players could care less about which city they play for, all fans are the same. they want to win first and foremost, and hopefully make a lot of money in the process.
theres kind of a trend to this

better players, go to bigger market teams, make more money off advertisements, ability to play with better players/have bigger name coaches ----> small market teams get screwed ----> nba is bad
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7560912/milwaukee-bucks-brandon-jennings-doing-homework-big-market-teams

the nba is horrible, all it is is marketing, i can literally expect to never see the bucks win a championship in my lifetime when every good player that comes through the draft is going to leave and no free agents want to come here
maybe you should move to a non shitty place
not necessarily just the bucks, any small market team in general will never have a chance at winning a championship unless they get lucky during the period of the rookies they draft, free agents will never be attracted to any small market team, and the rookies almost always get attracted to other large market teams and leave the smaller teams after their original contract is up

top 5 teams in the east ---> philadelphia, chicago, boston, atlanta, miami
top 5 teams in the west ---> okc, la clips/laks, san antonio, dallas

^all big market teams, will stay this way for a while and you can throw new jersey/new york in the possibilities of being in top 5 in the east, you might as well make it like a 12 team league

baseball is similar in the marketing techniques but its different in the sense that not 1 single player can completely dominate a game, the nba pretty much has the most garbage set up between all of the major sports

YES IM MAD
okc and san antonio are NOT big market teams, they just have non-retarded management (sam presti is responsible for the spurs as well). small markets are a lot tougher to be successful in yes, but with smart management they have a good chance.
youre wrong

okc and san antonio dont have any other sports (other than college) to root for so the entire city rallies around those teams, ALL of their money that would go towards a sports team goes directly towards them ---> making them big market for an NBA team
you're retarded and don't know what small market vs big market means. look at the shares of income those teams receive from their fan-bases etc. san antonio is small market because they have a low income with respect to other teams in the league. i won't comment on the thunder because they would be garbage if they didn't steal the sonics, so we'll see what happens to them when durant/westbrook leave. the clippers/knicks have huge markets yet they've sucked dick for 15 years or so. it really comes down to management. players don't leave because their teams aren't big markets; they leave because management sucks and makes horrible decisions, such as the grizzlies trading gasol for a bag of chips and the bucks trading away a prime ray allen for a withering gary payton.

p.s lebron james tried unsuccessfully to get michael redd to leave milwaukee and win a championship with him in cleveland back in 07 or something. players will opt to stick with a franchise if they believe in the management.
example: so regardless of the fact that brandon jennings is beginning to have a team formed around him (granted bogut stays healthy, regarded as a top 5 center) and has a lot of pieces around him that the bucks are trying to form, he still wants to leave and "go to a big market team"

the management is doing their best to form a team around him and he still is deciding to leave, which is why the management is surprised by this response

lebron ---> management did their best to build a team around him, possibly wasnt the BEST decision making but all they wouldve done over time is just continue to build a team around him and give him as many pieces he can ---> left for miami, obviously much better chance to win a championship, but also more money.. his team and management back in cleveland wouldve obviously done as much as they couldve to help get them back, but he opted for more money and a bigger market

the biggest free agent signings in the bucks recent history have been glenn robinson (lol) NO free agents will ever be attracted to coming here and the rookies will continue to leave, what dont you get?

management is a big part of it as well, but you look at teams like new jersey, theyre 8-21 this season and dwight howard is still attracted to going there, why would he want to? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
so you ignore my point about big market vs small market teams with the okc and san antonio examples, because you know you're straight up wrong. san antonio is a small market team. gotta love forum debates - "oh shit i was wrong, lets not talk about that".

lebron james is making less money in miami you fool. he'd be the highest paid player in the nba if he stayed in cleveland with his loyal fanbase, but he chose a pay-cut when he went to miami. he now makes less than chris bosh. smh you know nothing.

i don't know all the reasons your franchise sucks, i just know they've made poor decisions in the past (giving seattle ray allen for a withering gary payton). the bucks had michael redd for a really long time while he was dropping 25+ a game and was one of the league's premier shooting stars, along with ray allen. i'm not sure if they managed to make playoffs even then. the bucks suck.

also howard is undecided, he chose to stay in orlando and give his franchise another shot at proving they have the ability to surround him with talent. they're failing pretty hard at the moment.
ok point a. id have to see statistics on okc/san antonio, you saying your opinions without anything to back it up doesnt make it right (neither does mine, and i could be wrong but im pretty sure im not)

b. there is a maxed contract limit therefore he couldnt make anymore than hes making now, youre retarded.. he makes more money based on advertisements because hes in miami since its a larger market team "smh"

c. i know the reasons my franchise sucks ---> example: yi jianlian a few years ago was the bucks 1st round #6 pick, refused to play here, came from china and went to a large market team (dallas), because he wanted to become more well known, probably wouldntve happened in milwaukee. this is going to continue to happen now that theres been trades/big signings with better players in bigger markets, leaving smaller teams, and is going to completely deflate any small market teams like the bucks

d. he is undecided, but honestly do you think hes going to stay in orlando? lol

also, refer to my quote above

p.s. michael redd stayed with the bucks, still is with the bucks lol, he is bad and he was really pretty bad except for a 1-2 year span, not sure if he had another 1 or 2 year stint with another team but hes been with the bucks probably 6-7 years out of the last 10
a) http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm
s.a. has had a large payroll increase since i last checked, and okc is near the bottom. still, orlando has the largest salary in the nba and you think d12 is leaving for the nets to make more money? hmmm

b)http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm
gilbert arenas is making more money than lebron james. at the time of lebron james signing with the heat, he was not at max salary. stop talking out of your ass if you don't know the facts.

c)your team has made horrible management decisions in the past.. refer to my ray allen example. that's why they suck.

d)my point was that he gave his franchise another chance, instead of immediately dipping (which he could have easily done by requesting a trade).
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7560912/milwaukee-bucks-brandon-jennings-doing-homework-big-market-teams

the nba is horrible, all it is is marketing, i can literally expect to never see the bucks win a championship in my lifetime when every good player that comes through the draft is going to leave and no free agents want to come here
maybe you should move to a non shitty place
not necessarily just the bucks, any small market team in general will never have a chance at winning a championship unless they get lucky during the period of the rookies they draft, free agents will never be attracted to any small market team, and the rookies almost always get attracted to other large market teams and leave the smaller teams after their original contract is up

top 5 teams in the east ---> philadelphia, chicago, boston, atlanta, miami
top 5 teams in the west ---> okc, la clips/laks, san antonio, dallas

^all big market teams, will stay this way for a while and you can throw new jersey/new york in the possibilities of being in top 5 in the east, you might as well make it like a 12 team league

baseball is similar in the marketing techniques but its different in the sense that not 1 single player can completely dominate a game, the nba pretty much has the most garbage set up between all of the major sports

YES IM MAD
okc and san antonio are NOT big market teams, they just have non-retarded management (sam presti is responsible for the spurs as well). small markets are a lot tougher to be successful in yes, but with smart management they have a good chance.
youre wrong

okc and san antonio dont have any other sports (other than college) to root for so the entire city rallies around those teams, ALL of their money that would go towards a sports team goes directly towards them ---> making them big market for an NBA team
you're retarded and don't know what small market vs big market means. look at the shares of income those teams receive from their fan-bases etc. san antonio is small market because they have a low income with respect to other teams in the league. i won't comment on the thunder because they would be garbage if they didn't steal the sonics, so we'll see what happens to them when durant/westbrook leave. the clippers/knicks have huge markets yet they've sucked dick for 15 years or so. it really comes down to management. players don't leave because their teams aren't big markets; they leave because management sucks and makes horrible decisions, such as the grizzlies trading gasol for a bag of chips and the bucks trading away a prime ray allen for a withering gary payton.

p.s lebron james tried unsuccessfully to get michael redd to leave milwaukee and win a championship with him in cleveland back in 07 or something. players will opt to stick with a franchise if they believe in the management.
example: so regardless of the fact that brandon jennings is beginning to have a team formed around him (granted bogut stays healthy, regarded as a top 5 center) and has a lot of pieces around him that the bucks are trying to form, he still wants to leave and "go to a big market team"

the management is doing their best to form a team around him and he still is deciding to leave, which is why the management is surprised by this response

lebron ---> management did their best to build a team around him, possibly wasnt the BEST decision making but all they wouldve done over time is just continue to build a team around him and give him as many pieces he can ---> left for miami, obviously much better chance to win a championship, but also more money.. his team and management back in cleveland wouldve obviously done as much as they couldve to help get them back, but he opted for more money and a bigger market

the biggest free agent signings in the bucks recent history have been glenn robinson (lol) NO free agents will ever be attracted to coming here and the rookies will continue to leave, what dont you get?

management is a big part of it as well, but you look at teams like new jersey, theyre 8-21 this season and dwight howard is still attracted to going there, why would he want to? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
so you ignore my point about big market vs small market teams with the okc and san antonio examples, because you know you're straight up wrong. san antonio is a small market team. gotta love forum debates - "oh shit i was wrong, lets not talk about that".

lebron james is making less money in miami you fool. he'd be the highest paid player in the nba if he stayed in cleveland with his loyal fanbase, but he chose a pay-cut when he went to miami. he now makes less than chris bosh. smh you know nothing.

i don't know all the reasons your franchise sucks, i just know they've made poor decisions in the past (giving seattle ray allen for a withering gary payton). the bucks had michael redd for a really long time while he was dropping 25+ a game and was one of the league's premier shooting stars, along with ray allen. i'm not sure if they managed to make playoffs even then. the bucks suck.

also howard is undecided, he chose to stay in orlando and give his franchise another shot at proving they have the ability to surround him with talent. they're failing pretty hard at the moment.
ok point a. id have to see statistics on okc/san antonio, you saying your opinions without anything to back it up doesnt make it right (neither does mine, and i could be wrong but im pretty sure im not)

b. there is a maxed contract limit therefore he couldnt make anymore than hes making now, youre retarded.. he makes more money based on advertisements because hes in miami since its a larger market team "smh"

c. i know the reasons my franchise sucks ---> example: yi jianlian a few years ago was the bucks 1st round #6 pick, refused to play here, came from china and went to a large market team (dallas), because he wanted to become more well known, probably wouldntve happened in milwaukee. this is going to continue to happen now that theres been trades/big signings with better players in bigger markets, leaving smaller teams, and is going to completely deflate any small market teams like the bucks

d. he is undecided, but honestly do you think hes going to stay in orlando? lol

also, refer to my quote above

p.s. michael redd stayed with the bucks, still is with the bucks lol, he is bad and he was really pretty bad except for a 1-2 year span, not sure if he had another 1 or 2 year stint with another team but hes been with the bucks probably 6-7 years out of the last 10
a) http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm
s.a. has had a large payroll increase since i last checked, and okc is near the bottom. still, orlando has the largest salary in the nba and you think d12 is leaving for the nets to make more money? hmmm

b)http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm
gilbert arenas is making more money than lebron james. at the time of lebron james signing with the heat, he was not at max salary. stop talking out of your ass if you don't know the facts.

c)your team has made horrible management decisions in the past.. refer to my ray allen example. that's why they suck.

d)my point was that he gave his franchise another chance, instead of immediately dipping (which he could have easily done by requesting a trade).
a. other than portland, the top 10 teams of salaries dont surprise me at all, look at how many teams i mentioned earlier and how many of those teams are in the top 10 of the highest payroll

b. i may be wrong about his salary in this situation, but you also arent putting advertisements into consideration, think about it this way, if he stayed in cleveland he would have had a larger salary obviously, and the management wouldve continued to buidl a team around him, correct? he went to miami (not arguing he probably has a better chance to win a championship) but its also better weather, and a bigger market in general

c. youve mentioned 1 bad management decision, which was bad, but what else have they done badly? theyre continuing to add players for JENNINGS to become the centerpiece of their offense, yet he still wants to leave

d. this is a difficult one to argue, not every player is completely self interested, but every player has to be at some point in their career and which is why hes thinking of going to new jersey (which will be brooklyn next season)
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7560912/milwaukee-bucks-brandon-jennings-doing-homework-big-market-teams

the nba is horrible, all it is is marketing, i can literally expect to never see the bucks win a championship in my lifetime when every good player that comes through the draft is going to leave and no free agents want to come here
maybe you should move to a non shitty place
not necessarily just the bucks, any small market team in general will never have a chance at winning a championship unless they get lucky during the period of the rookies they draft, free agents will never be attracted to any small market team, and the rookies almost always get attracted to other large market teams and leave the smaller teams after their original contract is up

top 5 teams in the east ---> philadelphia, chicago, boston, atlanta, miami
top 5 teams in the west ---> okc, la clips/laks, san antonio, dallas

^all big market teams, will stay this way for a while and you can throw new jersey/new york in the possibilities of being in top 5 in the east, you might as well make it like a 12 team league

baseball is similar in the marketing techniques but its different in the sense that not 1 single player can completely dominate a game, the nba pretty much has the most garbage set up between all of the major sports

YES IM MAD
okc and san antonio are NOT big market teams, they just have non-retarded management (sam presti is responsible for the spurs as well). small markets are a lot tougher to be successful in yes, but with smart management they have a good chance.
youre wrong

okc and san antonio dont have any other sports (other than college) to root for so the entire city rallies around those teams, ALL of their money that would go towards a sports team goes directly towards them ---> making them big market for an NBA team
you're retarded and don't know what small market vs big market means. look at the shares of income those teams receive from their fan-bases etc. san antonio is small market because they have a low income with respect to other teams in the league. i won't comment on the thunder because they would be garbage if they didn't steal the sonics, so we'll see what happens to them when durant/westbrook leave. the clippers/knicks have huge markets yet they've sucked dick for 15 years or so. it really comes down to management. players don't leave because their teams aren't big markets; they leave because management sucks and makes horrible decisions, such as the grizzlies trading gasol for a bag of chips and the bucks trading away a prime ray allen for a withering gary payton.

p.s lebron james tried unsuccessfully to get michael redd to leave milwaukee and win a championship with him in cleveland back in 07 or something. players will opt to stick with a franchise if they believe in the management.
example: so regardless of the fact that brandon jennings is beginning to have a team formed around him (granted bogut stays healthy, regarded as a top 5 center) and has a lot of pieces around him that the bucks are trying to form, he still wants to leave and "go to a big market team"

the management is doing their best to form a team around him and he still is deciding to leave, which is why the management is surprised by this response

lebron ---> management did their best to build a team around him, possibly wasnt the BEST decision making but all they wouldve done over time is just continue to build a team around him and give him as many pieces he can ---> left for miami, obviously much better chance to win a championship, but also more money.. his team and management back in cleveland wouldve obviously done as much as they couldve to help get them back, but he opted for more money and a bigger market

the biggest free agent signings in the bucks recent history have been glenn robinson (lol) NO free agents will ever be attracted to coming here and the rookies will continue to leave, what dont you get?

management is a big part of it as well, but you look at teams like new jersey, theyre 8-21 this season and dwight howard is still attracted to going there, why would he want to? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
so you ignore my point about big market vs small market teams with the okc and san antonio examples, because you know you're straight up wrong. san antonio is a small market team. gotta love forum debates - "oh shit i was wrong, lets not talk about that".

lebron james is making less money in miami you fool. he'd be the highest paid player in the nba if he stayed in cleveland with his loyal fanbase, but he chose a pay-cut when he went to miami. he now makes less than chris bosh. smh you know nothing.

i don't know all the reasons your franchise sucks, i just know they've made poor decisions in the past (giving seattle ray allen for a withering gary payton). the bucks had michael redd for a really long time while he was dropping 25+ a game and was one of the league's premier shooting stars, along with ray allen. i'm not sure if they managed to make playoffs even then. the bucks suck.

also howard is undecided, he chose to stay in orlando and give his franchise another shot at proving they have the ability to surround him with talent. they're failing pretty hard at the moment.
ok point a. id have to see statistics on okc/san antonio, you saying your opinions without anything to back it up doesnt make it right (neither does mine, and i could be wrong but im pretty sure im not)

b. there is a maxed contract limit therefore he couldnt make anymore than hes making now, youre retarded.. he makes more money based on advertisements because hes in miami since its a larger market team "smh"

c. i know the reasons my franchise sucks ---> example: yi jianlian a few years ago was the bucks 1st round #6 pick, refused to play here, came from china and went to a large market team (dallas), because he wanted to become more well known, probably wouldntve happened in milwaukee. this is going to continue to happen now that theres been trades/big signings with better players in bigger markets, leaving smaller teams, and is going to completely deflate any small market teams like the bucks

d. he is undecided, but honestly do you think hes going to stay in orlando? lol

also, refer to my quote above

p.s. michael redd stayed with the bucks, still is with the bucks lol, he is bad and he was really pretty bad except for a 1-2 year span, not sure if he had another 1 or 2 year stint with another team but hes been with the bucks probably 6-7 years out of the last 10
"p.s. michael redd stayed with the bucks, still is with the bucks lol, he is bad and he was really pretty bad except for a 1-2 year span, not sure if he had another 1 or 2 year stint with another team but hes been with the bucks probably 6-7 years out of the last 10"

1)he plays for the suns right now.
2)he averaged over 20 ppg for 6 straight years http://www.nba.com/playerfile/michael_redd/career_stats.html and you consider him "pretty bad"

you don't even know the facts about players on your own team.. stop talking.
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ppg = good players

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and yeah lol that was silly, didnt know he left, he was a bench player the past couple years and i havent been following the nba very closely this season ERROR #2

i guess youd have to be in milwaukee to actually see any of the shit that was talked about him/lack of playing defense/trying to draw penalties, all hed do is sit on the 3point line and spot up, he was our #1 scorer, most people here really didnt like him at all
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and yeah lol that was silly, didnt know he left, he was a bench player the past couple years and i havent been following the nba very closely this season ERROR #2

i guess youd have to be in milwaukee to actually see any of the shit that was talked about him/lack of playing defense/trying to draw penalties, all hed do is sit on the 3point line and spot up, he was our #1 scorer, most people here really didnt like him at all
but... that's like what a shooting guard is supposed to do, and stuff. especially if you're hitting close to 40% from the 3. :sciencefrog:
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What do you guys think is gonna happen when the knicks get stoude and melo back? That shit is gonna be ^_^
Did you see how they were with them previously? They have no chemistry. Now perhaps Lin might make that happen (MIGHT)


but 4 games don't mean anything. He's had a good week. Let's see if he can have a good season before we start getting too far out of hand here.
I know that's what I'm saying. They play better without Carmelo and Stoude because with Lin they play as a team. Hopefully they do start having chemistry as you said with Lin. But they actually have a PG that can do big things now so it should happen.

I don't think it's just a good week. I think hes a good player. 38 vs Lakers? Above 25 points these last 4 games? We'll see though. I hope he has a good season.
a lot of PGs tear up the lakers, it's not that rare. Lin's just been running the PNR at a ridiculous rate. Teams are going to start coming out and hedging hard on him soon. On top of that 4 games is an insanely small sample size.

I like Lin, but mostly on a "lol" basis because I jumped on the Lin bandwagon after his first big game because Knicks fans hilariously overrate their players. A lot of them were saying that Shumpert was going to be better than Wade, Gallinari was the next Durant, etc.


@Badger you have no idea what you're talking about if you think Cleveland surrounded LeBron with talent. He had all the reason in the world to bail on that team.

Jennings is terrible and you shouldn't be building around him anyway. The guy is seriously awful, and that has nothing to do with the market he plays in. The Bucks management has failed as of right now.


Market has very very little to do with how good your team is or not. It has quite a bit to do with endorsements and the like, but name a superstar that left for an endorsement. Most, if not all, leave because they're tired of losing and want a change of scenery and a team thats better built around them. Carmelo may be the exception here, but a lot of him leaving had to do with repeated playoff exits.
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Yeah I agree with you remedy but I just don't think hes going to be another failure. I believe in lin

Shumpert anywhere near Wade? ha
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badger stick to talking about football.....

nobody ever mentioned detroit! they were never a big market team and lets be real, prior to the arrival of allen iverson, the pistons were fucking sick.

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the nba is horrible, all it is is marketing, i can literally expect to never see the bucks win a championship in my lifetime when every good player that comes through the draft is going to leave and no free agents want to come here
maybe you should move to a non shitty place
not necessarily just the bucks, any small market team in general will never have a chance at winning a championship unless they get lucky during the period of the rookies they draft, free agents will never be attracted to any small market team, and the rookies almost always get attracted to other large market teams and leave the smaller teams after their original contract is up

top 5 teams in the east ---> philadelphia, chicago, boston, atlanta, miami
top 5 teams in the west ---> okc, la clips/laks, san antonio, dallas

^all big market teams, will stay this way for a while and you can throw new jersey/new york in the possibilities of being in top 5 in the east, you might as well make it like a 12 team league

baseball is similar in the marketing techniques but its different in the sense that not 1 single player can completely dominate a game, the nba pretty much has the most garbage set up between all of the major sports

YES IM MAD
okc and san antonio are NOT big market teams, they just have non-retarded management (sam presti is responsible for the spurs as well). small markets are a lot tougher to be successful in yes, but with smart management they have a good chance.
youre wrong

okc and san antonio dont have any other sports (other than college) to root for so the entire city rallies around those teams, ALL of their money that would go towards a sports team goes directly towards them ---> making them big market for an NBA team
just because the whole city rallies around them doesn't mean small cities are big markets.

l0l ditto skyson xD
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Feb 12 2012, 10:36 PM
badger stick to talking about football.....

nobody ever mentioned detroit! they were never a big market team and lets be real, prior to the arrival of allen iverson, the pistons were fucking sick.
detroit isnt a small market team either though, they didnt attract HUGE name players, but they all fit together in great roles and larry brown was a great coach for them

the only possible way that a small market team would be able to make it to a championship is through the draft, period. and that can come with really good management, but small market teams like milwaukee will NEVER attract any big name players through free agency
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Feb 12 2012, 02:20 PM
chalupa y u mad

cali is the place to be

"full of spicks" DUHHHH NIGGA, THIS SHIT IS OURS! n we takin over

maybe you dont like cali though cuz you like to be in a attic all day getting high by your self and not see any people? otherwise i don't see how you can not like cali wtf

or maybe you got traumatized from living in Oakland? cuz yes, Oakland is really shitty with ALOT of niggers
when i say spics im not talking about the respectable ones who get jobs and learn english.


fuck the rest of em



also when you people just hop borders without doing things properly you spread disease. its riduclous how many cases of tuberculosis are appearing in california in recent years.



cali is too pricey and too crowded



denver/colorado is probably the best place to live in the country... you can ask cuba


people are moving here from cali by the truckload
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badger stick to talking about football.....

nobody ever mentioned detroit! they were never a big market team and lets be real, prior to the arrival of allen iverson, the pistons were fucking sick.
detroit isnt a small market team either though, they didnt attract HUGE name players, but they all fit together in great roles and larry brown was a great coach for them

the only possible way that a small market team would be able to make it to a championship is through the draft, period. and that can come with really good management, but small market teams like milwaukee will NEVER attract any big name players through free agency
...that's exactly what the thunder have been working towards. draft smart, sign solid role players, and don't fuck up like isiah thomas

bad management is a reason a lot of these small market teams fail. most bucks fans i'm sure are still scratching their heads as to why on earth they would trade the pick that would become dirk nowitzki for robert traylor. TERRIBLE DECISION xD.
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Detroit was still the top team in the east after brown left. 64 win season in 2006. The question still lingers around about how we could have been, bad or worse, if we drafted wade or melo instead of darko.

Lebron left the cavs after leading them to two consecutive 60+ win seasons. He's a pussy

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Cleveland put garbage around him.

LeBron's second option was Boobie Gibson in that first finals run. His best post-presence was Jamison.

He's been the best player in the league for the past 3 years easy. He's the reason why the Heat got past the Bulls and Celtics. Excusing his pitiful finals performance, he was the only (iirc) player to actually UP his shooting percentages, his ppm, rebounding, assists, etc. during the "clutch" (defined as last 5 minutes, score within 5) in the entire league. if that's not impressive, then you're just a hater who would all of a sudden be LeBron's biggest fan if he was on your team.
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badger stick to talking about football.....

nobody ever mentioned detroit! they were never a big market team and lets be real, prior to the arrival of allen iverson, the pistons were fucking sick.
detroit isnt a small market team either though, they didnt attract HUGE name players, but they all fit together in great roles and larry brown was a great coach for them

the only possible way that a small market team would be able to make it to a championship is through the draft, period. and that can come with really good management, but small market teams like milwaukee will NEVER attract any big name players through free agency
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example: so regardless of the fact that brandon jennings is beginning to have a team formed around him (granted bogut stays healthy, regarded as a top 5 center) and has a lot of pieces around him that the bucks are trying to form, he still wants to leave and "go to a big market team"

the management is doing their best to form a team around him and he still is deciding to leave, which is why the management is surprised by this response

management is a big part of it as well, but you look at teams like new jersey, theyre 8-21 this season and dwight howard is still attracted to going there, why would he want to? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
He is averaging in Feb.

15 points
32.7 FG%
5 FGM -15 FGA
28 3pt%
2 3PM - 7 3PA
FT 71%
2.9 FTM - 4 FTA

he's not an efficient scorer, doesn't have a reliable perimeter jumper, he doesn't draw a lot of fouls and he's terrible at finishing around the rim.

this is the guy your team is trying to build around. no wonder you guys blow. I seriously can't believe you called this chucker good. You should be thankful he wants out.



Howard is attracted to NJ because they have Deron and a ton of cap space to work with. Most of their roster is signed to 1 year deals so they have a huge amount of flexibility to build around those 2. That has nothing to do with endorsements and everything to do with winning basketball games.
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thats what i thought vadger
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go back to arguing with assassin about fashion you faggot

and im not sure how a 2 week span = how the player has played over his career, you mentioned somewhere either on here or to me that you thought he was a good player and he was going to break out in his 3rd year being this year, hes never been an overly dominant scorer but hes been consistent OTHER THAN THESE 2 WEEKS THAT YOUVE HAPPENED TO MENTION, the pieces theyve put around him like gooden bogut (if he stays healthy) and jackson should make it so he doesnt have to be one
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go back to arguing with assassin about fashion you faggot

and im not sure how a 2 week span = how the player has played over his career, you mentioned somewhere either on here or to me that you thought he was a good player and he was going to break out in his 3rd year being this year, hes never been an overly dominant scorer but hes been consistent OTHER THAN THESE 2 WEEKS THAT YOUVE HAPPENED TO MENTION, the pieces theyve put around him like gooden bogut (if he stays healthy) and jackson should make it so he doesnt have to be one
how he's played these past 2 weeks are more in line with how he's played the past 2 years. thats a bigger sample then the past 2 weeks right? his career TS% is 48 and is eFG% is 44%. that's pretty freaking awful.
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picture the bucks with jennings, and picture them without
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and if youre going to argue statistics like that, westbrooks career eFG% is 44% ----> equates to a bad player i guess
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jennings isn't as bad as remedy is making him out to be, you've gotta remember he's still a young player and he's still developing, his FG% has gone up each season (from 37 to 39 to 41), so it's not like he's doomed to be a crappy shooter for his career. but 5 assists for a star point guard? that's unacceptable. he can score but he's not a good floor general, although i'd like to see how his assists are affected by a finally healthy bogut once hes back. but you can forget about steven jackson man skiles has been benching him for a reason...he hates it in milwaukee! and you guys KNEW that he was a volatile player, as skilled and in my opinion underrated as he is, and still went for him. getting rid of maggette was a good idea, but not for stephen jackson...he's not going to be happy unless he is on a contending team again. the bucks have some solid role players too, but you can't really blame big markets vs small markets when management makes stupid moves like that. it is a lot more difficult to have a successful small market team and yes that comes with the territory, but it doesn't doom the team. bad management does.

also you guys need to start gooden at the 4 once bogut is back and healthy, he's TONS better than ilyasova or mbah a moute, he's averaging like 20 points a game since he took over for bogut.
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