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this is where i live l0l
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Deleted User	Sep 3 2011, 08:39 PM Post #26
Deleted User	Histories most iconic philosophers or scientists all have studies and statements that contradict their belief in god. Attacking John Locke for his nurture platform because of his religion is a little strange. I don't know, you go ahead brother. We're all cheering for you ^_^.
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gatman	Sep 3 2011, 08:42 PM Post #27
The Greatest Posts: 2,473 Group: Warrior Member #582 Joined: July 9, 2008	I didn't say his ideas contradict his idea in god, they don't. Let me elaborate with the concept of tabula rasa, you have to realize that Locke thinks god chooses the specific conditions that everyone experiences. This completely spins the whole concept of natural determinism, and that is why it is better to use Hobbes and or Hume.



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Deleted User	gatman Sep 3 2011, 08:42 PM I didn't say his ideas contradict his idea in god, they don't. Let me elaborate with the concept of tabula rasa, you have to realize that Locke thinks god chooses the specific conditions that everyone experiences. This completely spins the whole concept of natural determinism, and that is why it is better to use Hobbes and or Hume. Can you source that
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low	Sep 3 2011, 08:50 PM Post #29
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gatman	Sep 3 2011, 08:54 PM Post #30
The Greatest Posts: 2,473 Group: Warrior Member #582 Joined: July 9, 2008	Kingsley Sep 3 2011, 08:44 PM gatman Sep 3 2011, 08:42 PM I didn't say his ideas contradict his idea in god, they don't. Let me elaborate with the concept of tabula rasa, you have to realize that Locke thinks god chooses the specific conditions that everyone experiences. This completely spins the whole concept of natural determinism, and that is why it is better to use Hobbes and or Hume. Can you source that Source that he was a devout christian? Absolutely, you can read any of his original texts, any of his theories and its quite blatant lol, they only work with a god. But since you are like 15 and you won't read any of his texts, i'm sure wikipedia will do http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Locke#Religious_beliefs And if you legitimately care, i can directly quote his texts. Edited by gatman, Sep 3 2011, 08:54 PM.



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Deleted User	gatman Sep 3 2011, 08:54 PM Kingsley Sep 3 2011, 08:44 PM gatman Sep 3 2011, 08:42 PM I didn't say his ideas contradict his idea in god, they don't. Let me elaborate with the concept of tabula rasa, you have to realize that Locke thinks god chooses the specific conditions that everyone experiences. This completely spins the whole concept of natural determinism, and that is why it is better to use Hobbes and or Hume. Can you source that Source that he was a devout christian? Absolutely, you can read any of his original texts, any of his theories and its quite blatant lol, they only work with a god. But since you are like 15 and you won't read any of his texts, i'm sure wikipedia will do http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Locke#Religious_beliefs And if you legitimately care, i can directly quote his texts. No the sources that prove John Locke " thinks god chooses the specific conditions that everyone experiences"
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coN	Sep 4 2011, 12:39 AM Post #32
Posts: 12,513 Group: Warrior Champion Member #197 Joined: April 14, 2008	TheRock Sep 3 2011, 06:09 PM Not trying to incite a race war but black population in the U.S. is only 12.6%. The white non Hispanic population is around 63%. One in 11 African-Americans (9.2%) have been behind bars, as opposed to one in 45 whites (2.2 %). 70% of prisoners in the United States are non-whites, with black non Hispanic making up for almost 40 % of men and women currently incarcerated. Additionally, Hispanic blacks make up for 12.6% percent of men and women incarcerated. Look I'm a numbers guy, somethings wrong here with black people. If I meet a black person I don't judge them because of their skin color, just their character. But I've only had 2 black friends, one was an immigrant from Mozambique and came here when he was 10. The other was my friends roommate, and we had to stop associating with him when he stole my roommates foot powder, which he denied. Most African Americans I meet suck dick. They're cocky, loud, arrogant, annoying, immature, disrespectful, cheap, and ignorant. Generally speaking they have a lack of discipline, and disregard for authority. http://newsone.com/nation/newsonestaff3/children-single-parents-u-s-american/ That's probably why... but hey you blacks need to get your shit together, niggas think it's cool to live with cockroaches and have 8 kids that rock fubu.. not my problem. why so many blacks end up in jail? its called socioeconomics retard =P



Deleted User	Sep 4 2011, 12:54 AM Post #33
Deleted User	I honestly don't buy the whole poverty excuse. There are poor white/non-black areas of the country too, but they're not offing each other in record numbers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hEtN0-vF90
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Deleted User	Sep 4 2011, 01:07 AM Post #34
Deleted User	poverty was a myth until i started playing. i got that boardwalk/park place combo on lock down and the red streets. now everyones handing me cash leaving none for themselves.
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Louie	Sep 4 2011, 01:23 AM Post #35
Posts: 7,318 Group: Warrior Member #2,398 Joined: December 5, 2010 CPU louie	dEE Sep 4 2011, 01:07 AM poverty was a myth until i started playing. i got that boardwalk/park place combo on lock down and the red streets. now everyones handing me cash leaving none for themselves. http://www.pogo.com/games/monopoly come see me
	arcade Jun 2 2010, 08:24 AM blade you can post screenshots of you beating people like louie in 1v1s as much as you want (seriosly with your sound, set up, and stopwatch you shouldnt lose a 1v1) but it doesnt change the fact that he is 20x the player you are.


gatman	Sep 4 2011, 02:01 AM Post #36
The Greatest Posts: 2,473 Group: Warrior Member #582 Joined: July 9, 2008	Kingsley Sep 3 2011, 09:01 PM No the sources that prove John Locke " thinks god chooses the specific conditions that everyone experiences" Let me remind you of God, the omnipotent being and its implications. If you believe god created everything around you, its would seem pretty obvious that everything is caused by god even evil. The way religious people avoid the implication of god causing evil is through the concept of free will (or i guess to a lesser extent that man cannot comprehend the mind of god, but lets not go there). As we both know, Locke denies the existence of free will, this is because it contradicts the nature of determinism. But as i have explained, for Locke everything is determined by god not natural relations. Scientific determinism, and religious 'fate' or 'destiny' determisn are very diferent. This is why Locke is a terrible example of natural philosophy, i have little respect for him at all, i'd be surprised if he knew which way was up.



gatman	Sep 4 2011, 02:12 AM Post #37
The Greatest Posts: 2,473 Group: Warrior Member #582 Joined: July 9, 2008	Hype Sep 4 2011, 12:54 AM I honestly don't buy the whole poverty excuse. There are poor white/non-black areas of the country too, but they're not offing each other in record numbers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hEtN0-vF90 It's not as simple as just poverty. You have to sit down and think, what makes this person different to me? What causes one to act this way? And you will realize it all boils down to two factors, genetics and experiences, they are the only two differences between you and the alleged criminals. As we know, we don't decide what our genetics are, and we certainly don't control everything we experience. But then the serious implication arises, if the factors which cause 'evil' or 'bad' are out of peoples control, how can we blame them for it. And thats the issue at hand here, it isn't reasonable to feel disgust at these people, you should feel disgust at the conditions which caused them to become who they are. And the harsh fact is, poverty doesn't determine who you become, but it seriously influences you. Factors of poverty such as malnutrition which could cause brains to not properly develop, or abusive parents which inflict trauma, or maybe simply lack of values and love from parents. We cannot quantify the scale to which these effect people, they could potentially create anti-social behaviour. Heres a humorous cartoon which puts things into perspective;



Louie	Sep 4 2011, 03:01 AM Post #38
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	arcade Jun 2 2010, 08:24 AM blade you can post screenshots of you beating people like louie in 1v1s as much as you want (seriosly with your sound, set up, and stopwatch you shouldnt lose a 1v1) but it doesnt change the fact that he is 20x the player you are.


S k e p t i c	Sep 4 2011, 08:12 AM Post #39
Kitten Molester Posts: 1,826 Group: Warrior Member #1,093 Joined: December 17, 2008	well keeping with the John Locke/Rousseau side of things you can argue that there have always been less fortunate individuals in the world who do not stack up physically or mentally to others but the creation of private property and ownership caused these differences to be more apparent, add in race and religion and assumptions start flying
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exo	Sep 4 2011, 09:32 AM Post #40
Posts: 1,889 Group: Warrior Member #325 Joined: June 10, 2008	HPT-4 Sep 3 2011, 07:12 PM Kingsley Sep 3 2011, 07:10 PM i was born an ape nah nah. fixed



kaR#	Sep 4 2011, 11:28 AM Post #41
Posts: 333 Group: Warrior Member #2,297 Joined: September 20, 2010	coN Sep 4 2011, 12:39 AM TheRock Sep 3 2011, 06:09 PM Not trying to incite a race war but black population in the U.S. is only 12.6%. The white non Hispanic population is around 63%. One in 11 African-Americans (9.2%) have been behind bars, as opposed to one in 45 whites (2.2 %). 70% of prisoners in the United States are non-whites, with black non Hispanic making up for almost 40 % of men and women currently incarcerated. Additionally, Hispanic blacks make up for 12.6% percent of men and women incarcerated. Look I'm a numbers guy, somethings wrong here with black people. If I meet a black person I don't judge them because of their skin color, just their character. But I've only had 2 black friends, one was an immigrant from Mozambique and came here when he was 10. The other was my friends roommate, and we had to stop associating with him when he stole my roommates foot powder, which he denied. Most African Americans I meet suck dick. They're cocky, loud, arrogant, annoying, immature, disrespectful, cheap, and ignorant. Generally speaking they have a lack of discipline, and disregard for authority. http://newsone.com/nation/newsonestaff3/children-single-parents-u-s-american/ That's probably why... but hey you blacks need to get your shit together, niggas think it's cool to live with cockroaches and have 8 kids that rock fubu.. not my problem. why so many blacks end up in jail? its called socioeconomics retard =P



th!wy	Sep 4 2011, 01:06 PM Post #42
Posts: 5,175 Group: Warrior Member #165 Joined: April 3, 2008	TheRock Sep 3 2011, 06:09 PM Not trying to incite a race war but black population in the U.S. is only 12.6%. The white non Hispanic population is around 63%. One in 11 African-Americans (9.2%) have been behind bars, as opposed to one in 45 whites (2.2 %). 70% of prisoners in the United States are non-whites, with black non Hispanic making up for almost 40 % of men and women currently incarcerated. Additionally, Hispanic blacks make up for 12.6% percent of men and women incarcerated. Look I'm a numbers guy, somethings wrong here with black people. If I meet a black person I don't judge them because of their skin color, just their character. But I've only had 2 black friends, one was an immigrant from Mozambique and came here when he was 10. The other was my friends roommate, and we had to stop associating with him when he stole my roommates foot powder, which he denied. Most African Americans I meet suck dick. They're cocky, loud, arrogant, annoying, immature, disrespectful, cheap, and ignorant. Generally speaking they have a lack of discipline, and disregard for authority. http://newsone.com/nation/newsonestaff3/children-single-parents-u-s-american/ That's probably why... but hey you blacks need to get your shit together, niggas think it's cool to live with cockroaches and have 8 kids that rock fubu.. not my problem. if it was the people the problem those statistic would be same in other countries too (not saying you said the people was the problem)
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HPT--1	Sep 4 2011, 01:43 PM Post #45
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TheRock	Sep 4 2011, 11:17 PM Post #46
Posts: 931 Group: Warrior Member #59 Joined: March 23, 2008	Hey around, america is 12 percent black, and 63 percent white. Here is the welfare system by Race -------------- White 38.8% Black 37.2 Hispanic 17.8 Asian 2.8 Other 3.4 Quote: . If you want to involve numbers find the correlation between poverty and incarcerations and you'll ponder on something quite interesting As we can see here, there are more whites on welfare by a long shot. Yet, they are least likely to end up in jail, and make up the smallest ethnic portion in jails. So you're fucking wrong. If you can find a statistic that shows otherwise, please enlighten me. Who cares about the theories, theories are fucking theories. Most are bullshit, and the ones that make sense always have a few holes and points that could never apply. Yea dude your ancestors were slaves and treated like shit. But at some point, most countries had a time period of turmoil, genocide, or a totalitarian government who fucked their own people. I'll brielfy make the comparison of the holocaust being more recent than slavery, and you don't see jews shooting each other in the streets over dimebags. The system isn't the problem, it's the blacks. Edited by TheRock, Sep 4 2011, 11:21 PM.



coN	Sep 5 2011, 12:22 PM Post #47
Posts: 12,513 Group: Warrior Champion Member #197 Joined: April 14, 2008	TheRock Sep 4 2011, 11:17 PM Hey around, america is 12 percent black, and 63 percent white. Here is the welfare system by Race -------------- White 38.8% Black 37.2 Hispanic 17.8 Asian 2.8 Other 3.4 Quote: . If you want to involve numbers find the correlation between poverty and incarcerations and you'll ponder on something quite interesting As we can see here, there are more whites on welfare by a long shot. Yet, they are least likely to end up in jail, and make up the smallest ethnic portion in jails. So you're fucking wrong. If you can find a statistic that shows otherwise, please enlighten me. Who cares about the theories, theories are fucking theories. Most are bullshit, and the ones that make sense always have a few holes and points that could never apply. Yea dude your ancestors were slaves and treated like shit. But at some point, most countries had a time period of turmoil, genocide, or a totalitarian government who fucked their own people. I'll brielfy make the comparison of the holocaust being more recent than slavery, and you don't see jews shooting each other in the streets over dimebags. The system isn't the problem, it's the blacks. well from my understanding most poor blacks/hispanics live in the inner city where growing up they are more exposed to crime/gangsters/drugs and most poor whites live in rural areas where no1 else lives to commit crimes against.



TheRock	Sep 5 2011, 02:32 PM Post #48
Posts: 931 Group: Warrior Member #59 Joined: March 23, 2008	Yea and that's really great and all. My grandparents grew up in the inner city of New York. They lived in a tiny one bedroom apartment and raised 2 kids, never graduated high school, and stayed out of trouble. They respected their neighborhood, and embraced the American way of living, never teaching their kids italian. You'll come to find many immigrants from generations past did the same thing...Irish, polish, russian, german, italian, albanian (LITTLE MORE VIOLENT PEOPLES), you name it.. all immigrants went through persecution in this country and lived in shitty areas. But never did they cause as much violence and self destruction as African Americans.



X-It	Sep 5 2011, 04:18 PM Post #49
Posts: 2,589 Group: Warrior Champion Member #113 Joined: March 27, 2008	TheRock Sep 5 2011, 02:32 PM But never did they cause as much violence and self destruction as African Americans. the rock is half black bro, deal with it
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Deleted User	X-It Sep 5 2011, 04:18 PM TheRock Sep 5 2011, 02:32 PM But never did they cause as much violence and self destruction as African Americans. the rock is half black bro, deal with it Leave it to someone like you to ruin a "so far" great debate. -Ice
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