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But most crucially, like i have already explained, it isn't fair to blame the people for how they behave. As if you were brought up under their circumstances you would be exactly the same. It isn't reasonable to hate the people, hate the conditions which caused the behaviour you hate. When people accept things like this we can actually develop ways of remedying the problem instead of covering it up.


The main difference between humans and animals. We were born with free will. Plus we don't live in a third world country. They are plenty of opportunities for people of any race or creed to advance. For instance if you maintain over a C average as an American African student in the United States, you're entitled for scholarship money from the United Negro College Fund, (the schools they attend are not nearly as challenging as schools in the suburbs). It's a never ending debate, but we as humans have the right to choose, if so, everyone would be getting off left and right with criminal activities.. (not the case!)
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God im so tired of seeing wikipedia as arguments/proofs.
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th!wy
Sep 7 2011, 03:40 PM
God im so tired of seeing wikipedia as arguments/proofs.
agreed!

thats because canadian schools don't allow it to be used as a source!

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Sep 7 2011, 04:48 PM
th!wy
Sep 7 2011, 03:40 PM
God im so tired of seeing wikipedia as arguments/proofs.
agreed!

thats because canadian schools don't allow it to be used as a source!

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actually personally back in college i would have many teachers saying we could use it but that we needed to be careful with it, and to always find an other source that says the same thing basically

because Wikipedia is not a necessary a ''safe source''

But yeah ive had some teachers who just refused it as well lawl
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TheRock
Sep 7 2011, 02:31 PM
The main difference between humans and animals. We were born with free will.
Free will is a stupid concept, if you were intelligent you would come to realize that. I can't argue with a man who believes in the most mystical, inconcievable and impossible things.

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The Free will concept is completely contrary to science, logic, and intelligence.
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Ok we don't have free will, but a pre conceived final destination from the man up above.

Gatman you do not have the power of choice.

That sounds better.

@thiwy, Census reports not on wikipedia...
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Who gives a fuck if someone uses wikipedia, this isn't an essay and statistics are statistics. As long as they are properly cited(on wikipedia), it's fine. The reason your professors told you not to use wikipedia is probably because they were for history classes, history on wikipedia definitely has bias in it.. as all history does. In history you have to interject opinion. But if i look up math or science on wikipedia it's not going to be wrong because science is fuckin science lol. btw the DOE uses wikipedia l@wl.
Oh and I don't wanna join this debate cuz it'll be a huge shitfest but
niggas r dumb
blek ppl r normal
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th!wy
Sep 7 2011, 03:40 PM
God im so tired of seeing wikipedia as arguments/proofs.
Didn't realize I needed professional sources for poverty statistics on a halo forum.



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It's based on how determined you are to make something out of yourself...

people have different motives to do unlawful things....or stay in poverty for that matter...

whether it's too look cool...fit in...survive...gang initiation....etc..

it just so statistically happens that blacks have a higher ratio in this category...even in terms of welfare... which is not the point...because even when we jokingly say "niggers shoot steal" etc.. that can be applied to anybody, nobody can act a "race", when we apply someone breaking the law to black people....

people in the US have the biggest opportunity of getting an education, they just don't want to take advantage of it...

It goes without say that your decisions/thoughts on life are developed/manipulated by where you live and how you're raised by your parents... your surroundings definitely have a huge impact on this..

but if you're pretty much taught not to succeed in life and to just "get by" then obviously there will be an increase in stupid shit...that the government keeps dishing out money to...

nobody wants to work hard, nor does any want to create opportunities for themselves..they expect themselves to be spoon fed everything hence welfare....if you're sitting on free shit then why not?

sure some morons may argue, "an education doesn't necessarily get you a job, you'll just end up in debt, without a job, and slaving your way out of interest loans," yet you have a higher chance of getting a more stable job and it's a legitimate pathway to better oneself... you're taught values of life and start to respect yourself more along with others... you become appreciatively referred to and more respected by your peers/employers/etc....

It doesn't make sense for people to stoop back down to their shitty lives, once they complete their education..... why do you think it's so encouraged? "EH NIGGA I JUST GOT DAT MASTER'S DEGREE SHIT...LEMME GO KILL DIS CRAB NIQQA RIGHT QUICK......MY PIRU DAMU SON!!"...........exactly
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TheRock
Sep 7 2011, 06:23 PM
Ok we don't have free will, but a pre conceived final destination from the man up above.

Gatman you do not have the power of choice.

That sounds better.

@thiwy, Census reports not on wikipedia...
Just because you can make choices does not mean you have free will.

Your choices are limited and determined by your experiences and genetics.


A boy in Africa isn't just going to magically decide he is going to write a paper on astrophyics. The same way a man isn't going to magically know the right or most beneficial action to do if he is never taught.
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LMAO also remember we are bound by the laws of humanity into our chosen professions, relationships, and career paths. It is the way life is Erosion, without the will of freedom..
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TheRock
Sep 7 2011, 06:23 PM
pre conceived final destination from the man up above.

this nigga KNOWS!!


us theists don't feel the pain.........LIKE NOVACAINE
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gatman
Sep 7 2011, 06:39 PM
TheRock
Sep 7 2011, 06:23 PM
Ok we don't have free will, but a pre conceived final destination from the man up above.

Gatman you do not have the power of choice.

That sounds better.

@thiwy, Census reports not on wikipedia...
Just because you can make choices does not mean you have free will.

Your choices are limited and determined by your experiences and genetics.


A boy in Africa isn't just going to magically decide he is going to write a paper on astrophyics. The same way a man isn't going to magically know the right or most beneficial action to do if he is never taught.
It just boils down to religion vs science.....

like he already said, everything is predetermined..... if it's meant to happen it will, lol
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Sep 7 2011, 06:39 PM
TheRock
Sep 7 2011, 06:23 PM
Ok we don't have free will, but a pre conceived final destination from the man up above.

Gatman you do not have the power of choice.

That sounds better.

@thiwy, Census reports not on wikipedia...
Just because you can make choices does not mean you have free will.

Your choices are limited and determined by your experiences and genetics.


A boy in Africa isn't just going to magically decide he is going to write a paper on astrophyics. The same way a man isn't going to magically know the right or most beneficial action to do if he is never taught.
lmao, he will write that paper.. and get an A.

Argument is completely irrelevant to anything. We might as well sit here for hours arguing why certain people are born mentally retarded, why we are able to sit and type about this on a forums, why black people are born black, and it gets really stupid.

Shit happens. But for the rest of us born in the United States that are not retarded, everyone has an opportunity to work hard and better their lives. "Free will" (lOlOLzolZ) or not some groups of people stress to their children to better their lives more than others. Blacks are content living in shitholes and selling drugs, how many indian parents are content until their son or daughter is a doctor?????

It comes to priorities, discipline and parenting.

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The point is, you can't magically be good at parenting, you can't even magically decide to learn how to be a parent.

Blaming the people is not reasonable, the circumstances is the issue. Until people understand that we cannot put the best foot forward.

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Sep 7 2011, 06:29 PM
Who gives a fuck if someone uses wikipedia, this isn't an essay and statistics are statistics. As long as they are properly cited(on wikipedia), it's fine. The reason your professors told you not to use wikipedia is probably because they were for history classes, history on wikipedia definitely has bias in it.. as all history does. In history you have to interject opinion. But if i look up math or science on wikipedia it's not going to be wrong because science is fuckin science lol. btw the DOE uses wikipedia l@wl.
Oh and I don't wanna join this debate cuz it'll be a huge shitfest but
niggas r dumb
blek ppl r normal
Actually they were all math classes since i was in applied sciences in college
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Sep 7 2011, 07:03 PM
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Sep 7 2011, 06:39 PM
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Sep 7 2011, 06:23 PM
Ok we don't have free will, but a pre conceived final destination from the man up above.

Gatman you do not have the power of choice.

That sounds better.

@thiwy, Census reports not on wikipedia...
Just because you can make choices does not mean you have free will.

Your choices are limited and determined by your experiences and genetics.


A boy in Africa isn't just going to magically decide he is going to write a paper on astrophyics. The same way a man isn't going to magically know the right or most beneficial action to do if he is never taught.
lmao, he will write that paper.. and get an A.

Argument is completely irrelevant to anything. We might as well sit here for hours arguing why certain people are born mentally retarded, why we are able to sit and type about this on a forums, why black people are born black, and it gets really stupid.

Shit happens. But for the rest of us born in the United States that are not retarded, everyone has an opportunity to work hard and better their lives. "Free will" (lOlOLzolZ) or not some groups of people stress to their children to better their lives more than others. Blacks are content living in shitholes and selling drugs, how many indian parents are content until their son or daughter is a doctor?????

It comes to priorities, discipline and parenting.

as i said, look at west african culture pre 1600. indians and asians have a very good work ethic based on their culture and the circumstances in which they originally lived (it's been theorized that asians have a really good work ethic because they grow rice which is backbreaking work as opposed to european crops).
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Sep 7 2011, 06:33 PM
th!wy
Sep 7 2011, 03:40 PM
God im so tired of seeing wikipedia as arguments/proofs.
Didn't realize I needed professional sources for poverty statistics on a halo forum.



WILL REMEMBER NEXT TIME




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wikipedia cites its sources

>read article on wiki

>use arguments and facts found on wiki

>cite article cited by wiki

congrats, you have now passed the 6th grade
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can you niggas say........

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Sep 7 2011, 09:42 PM
can you niggas say........

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Sep 7 2011, 09:35 PM
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Sep 7 2011, 07:03 PM
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Sep 7 2011, 06:39 PM
TheRock
Sep 7 2011, 06:23 PM
Ok we don't have free will, but a pre conceived final destination from the man up above.

Gatman you do not have the power of choice.

That sounds better.

@thiwy, Census reports not on wikipedia...
Just because you can make choices does not mean you have free will.

Your choices are limited and determined by your experiences and genetics.


A boy in Africa isn't just going to magically decide he is going to write a paper on astrophyics. The same way a man isn't going to magically know the right or most beneficial action to do if he is never taught.
lmao, he will write that paper.. and get an A.

Argument is completely irrelevant to anything. We might as well sit here for hours arguing why certain people are born mentally retarded, why we are able to sit and type about this on a forums, why black people are born black, and it gets really stupid.

Shit happens. But for the rest of us born in the United States that are not retarded, everyone has an opportunity to work hard and better their lives. "Free will" (lOlOLzolZ) or not some groups of people stress to their children to better their lives more than others. Blacks are content living in shitholes and selling drugs, how many indian parents are content until their son or daughter is a doctor?????

It comes to priorities, discipline and parenting.

as i said, look at west african culture pre 1600. indians and asians have a very good work ethic based on their culture and the circumstances in which they originally lived (it's been theorized that asians have a really good work ethic because they grow rice which is backbreaking work as opposed to european crops).
Africans have good work ethic

wtf u talking about?

I have yet to meet a black person from Ghana that isn't polite/doesn't work hard.



It's niggas that think life is tough cookies and that they are never going to 'make it out' so they have to resort to dealing etc and blame that on the white man ENSLAVING THEM

even though fucking slavery was part of the African code and way of life back then
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Sep 7 2011, 09:42 PM
can you niggas say........

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The point is, you can't magically be good at parenting, you can't even magically decide to learn how to be a parent.

Blaming the people is not reasonable, the circumstances is the issue. Until people understand that we cannot put the best foot forward.


This is a fairly cryptic paragraph here. Were trying to move towards philosophy here, but I honestly think it's much simpler than this. These people live their life as if they are owed something, but in reality they are not, you see? So everything wrong they do, they just don't fucking care, it doesn't matter, because at one point or another they acknowledge they were slaves.

But there are those who use the power of choice. They navigate and utilize the system, and become successful. To say they were pre destined to do so is really a huge spiritual issue rather than gender, creed, or race specific.
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Sep 7 2011, 09:33 PM
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Sep 7 2011, 06:29 PM
Who gives a fuck if someone uses wikipedia, this isn't an essay and statistics are statistics. As long as they are properly cited(on wikipedia), it's fine. The reason your professors told you not to use wikipedia is probably because they were for history classes, history on wikipedia definitely has bias in it.. as all history does. In history you have to interject opinion. But if i look up math or science on wikipedia it's not going to be wrong because science is fuckin science lol. btw the DOE uses wikipedia l@wl.
Oh and I don't wanna join this debate cuz it'll be a huge shitfest but
niggas r dumb
blek ppl r normal
Actually they were all math classes since i was in applied sciences in college
exactly.. so you aren't going to find fucked up math on wikipedia. Just because a university doesn't want you to use wikipedia doesn't mean it isn't a valid source
If i take the integral of 1/x
It's always going to be ln x. It's not going to be anything else. Math is math regardless of source
Wikipedia is a source that everyone uses to gain information so stop being a bitch about it.
Yet again, will reiterate, wikipedia is a source used by the US DOE
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