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Deleted User	TheAnimaL Sep 7 2011, 09:42 PM can you niggas say........ dat ass? all dat ass. without yo jeanz
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Deleted User	Sep 8 2011, 05:11 AM Post #102
Deleted User	I sort of agree more with The Rock. Gatman will argue philosophy to the death but in the end people are responsible for their actions. There is no free will but the universe isn't deterministic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hOaQtQqRnI
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Erosion	Sep 8 2011, 05:33 AM Post #103
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gatman	Sep 8 2011, 06:01 AM Post #104
The Greatest Posts: 2,473 Group: Warrior Member #582 Joined: July 9, 2008	Hype Sep 8 2011, 05:11 AM I sort of agree more with The Rock. Gatman will argue philosophy to the death but in the end people are responsible for their actions. There is no free will but the universe isn't deterministic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hOaQtQqRnI It's a scientific view of a typically philosophical topic. I'm not saying people shouldn't be help responsible for their actions, i'm saying it isn't reasonable to hate them for it, consequently punishment won't solve the issue, only education. I don't think you understand the implications of saying the universe isn't deterministic, so i'm just going to let you think about how silly that is.



Erosion	Sep 8 2011, 07:20 AM Post #105
Negro Patrol "¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posts: 9,567 Group: Warrior Member #940 Joined: September 25, 2008	gatman Sep 8 2011, 06:01 AM Hype Sep 8 2011, 05:11 AM I sort of agree more with The Rock. Gatman will argue philosophy to the death but in the end people are responsible for their actions. There is no free will but the universe isn't deterministic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hOaQtQqRnI It's a scientific view of a typically philosophical topic. I'm not saying people shouldn't be help responsible for their actions, i'm saying it isn't reasonable to hate them for it, consequently punishment won't solve the issue, only education. I don't think you understand the implications of saying the universe isn't deterministic, so i'm just going to let you think about how silly that is. I think you have misconceived notions. No one here hates black people. That's being racist. The attitude towards life and what they feel is owed them (the hood community) is what is unacceptable. Punishment by itself agreed will solve nothing. That doesn't mean they can't be held accountable for their actions and punished for them. And as far as education well.....only people who are motivated to get an education are going to get educated. Plenty of rich people out there who don't get educations and plenty of poor people who do. Are you making the implication that the universe is completely deterministic? if so lol I shouldn't even bother responding to anymore of dat nonsense. Are there cause-effect relationships? Certainly everywhere but the universe doesn't spin on that single axis. Environment only affects to a degree. Can't blame it all on that. Also I don't really like this notion that "free will" completely is non-existent. To my knowledge is has not been proven to exist or not exist, so who r u to say otherwise? Same with determinism vs indeterminism. ALL PERFECTLY VALID THEORIES



gatman	Sep 8 2011, 07:54 AM Post #106
The Greatest Posts: 2,473 Group: Warrior Member #582 Joined: July 9, 2008	Uncle Ruckus Sep 8 2011, 07:20 AM I think you have misconceived notions. No one here hates black people. That's being racist. The attitude towards life and what they feel is owed them (the hood community) is what is unacceptable. I am not in the best state of mind, so this was fucking with me, don't ever do that again. Read what i said again: Quote: 'm not saying people shouldn't be help responsible for their actions, i'm saying it isn't reasonable to hate them for it, consequently punishment won't solve the issue, only education. One more time just for good measure: "i'm saying it isn't reasonable to hate them for it (their behavious) So i don't know how you interpeted it as hating black people in general. What i am saying is that Quote: The attitude towards life and what they feel is owed them (the hood community) is what is unacceptable should not make you feel hatred towards them, only sympathy towards them. Quote: Punishment by itself agreed will solve nothing. That doesn't mean they can't be held accountable for their actions and punished for them. And as far as education well.....only people who are motivated to get an education are going to get educated. Plenty of rich people out there who don't get educations and plenty of poor people who do. How can you possibly think the logic behind it is flawed; If you had exactly the criminals genetics, and you experienced precisely what he experienced, do you thnk you would somehow be a different person to him? Do you think you would somehow act differently? Thats the point, why punish someone for an action that you would do yourself under the same conditions? Punishment as of current doesn't make sense. Punishment needs to be replaced with adequate rehibilatation such as education. You completely mis-understood my comment about switching punishment with education. Quote: Are you making the implication that the universe is completely deterministic? Well there hasn't been any proven non-deterministic system, although if you are using some shitty internet definition it's no wonder you thought there was some argument here. Quote: Environment only affects to a degree. Can't blame it all on that. Environemtal experiences and genetics. But these are broad words, environmental experiences are intricate details from from the temperature to the way someone yelled at you. If you think there is a third factor which influences human behaviour, i would be delightend and entertained to hear it. Quote: Also I don't really like this notion that "free will" completely is non-existent. To my knowledge is has not been proven to exist or not exist, so who r u to say otherwise? Same with determinism vs indeterminism. ALL PERFECTLY VALID THEORIES It lies in the same boat with god, god is the only real explanation of free will these days. Its impossible scientifically (as it breaks various laws), but hey, nothing is impossible if it can be observed and tested. Edited by gatman, Sep 8 2011, 08:02 AM.



low	Sep 8 2011, 09:20 AM Post #107
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Deleted User	Sep 8 2011, 09:29 AM Post #108
Deleted User	sacrifice sugar 2 the gods & pray 4 answers
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th!wy	Sep 8 2011, 10:22 AM Post #109
Posts: 5,175 Group: Warrior Member #165 Joined: April 3, 2008	Impossible to read this thread :S
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coN	Sep 8 2011, 11:34 AM Post #110
Posts: 12,513 Group: Warrior Champion Member #197 Joined: April 14, 2008	atrophy Sep 8 2011, 09:29 AM sacrifice sugar 2 the gods & pray 4 answers



Deleted User	Sep 8 2011, 12:32 PM Post #111
Deleted User	no rocks on da road luda? BITCH DEY ALL ON MY CHAIN
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HPT--1	Sep 8 2011, 12:35 PM Post #112
Haloindex Admin Posts: 5,211 Group: Warrior Member #1,213 Joined: February 3, 2009	TheRock Sep 5 2011, 10:36 PM or being called a nigger every day by white people to their faces i call all my black friends niggers and they dont give 3 shits (maybe 2, but not 3)
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Opeth	Sep 8 2011, 12:39 PM Post #113
great tea master sen no rikyu Posts: 5,645 Group: Warrior Member #434 Joined: June 22, 2008	my black friends don't care either but i still wouldn't call them a nigger..



prof	Sep 8 2011, 12:50 PM Post #114
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Deleted User	Sep 8 2011, 02:43 PM Post #115
Deleted User	gatman Sep 8 2011, 06:01 AM Hype Sep 8 2011, 05:11 AM I sort of agree more with The Rock. Gatman will argue philosophy to the death but in the end people are responsible for their actions. There is no free will but the universe isn't deterministic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hOaQtQqRnI It's a scientific view of a typically philosophical topic. I'm not saying people shouldn't be help responsible for their actions, i'm saying it isn't reasonable to hate them for it, consequently punishment won't solve the issue, only education. I don't think you understand the implications of saying the universe isn't deterministic, so i'm just going to let you think about how silly that is. The universe isn't deterministic.
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gatman	Sep 8 2011, 05:28 PM Post #116
The Greatest Posts: 2,473 Group: Warrior Member #582 Joined: July 9, 2008	Hype Sep 8 2011, 02:43 PM The universe isn't deterministic. "Well there hasn't been any proven non-deterministic system, although if you are using some shitty internet definition it's no wonder you thought there was some argument here." Chaos theory, principles of uncertainty, quantum theory, none of these contradict determinism



prof	Sep 8 2011, 05:48 PM Post #117
{OLD} Posts: 1,111 Group: Warrior Member #123 Joined: March 29, 2008	stop using big words on a fucking halo forum
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Deleted User	Sep 8 2011, 05:53 PM Post #118
Deleted User	prof Sep 8 2011, 05:48 PM stop using big words on a fucking halo forum Halo's big dawg what can i tell you
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Nate Dogg	Sep 8 2011, 06:03 PM Post #119
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Posts: 1,431 Group: itK Member #1,594 Joined: August 31, 2009 Steam http://steamcommunity.com/id/natedogg2008 XBL OGNateDogg Alias [MK]Natedawgg	low Sep 8 2011, 09:20 AM HOW DO YOU PROPOSE WE SOLVE THIS DILEMMA THEN GATMAN?



HPT-15	Sep 8 2011, 06:21 PM Post #120
experimental hate eater Posts: 3,538 Group: Warrior Member #1,090 Joined: December 15, 2008	its acceptable to hate uncontrollable people when they break or steal your stuff or the people you knows stuff what is the local minority population like where youre at gman.. and is that "minority" actually the majority? cause around here.. white is the race i see least. there are plenty of normal people that get shit for undeserved reasons though but coloreds have sexually assaulted/assaulted my girlfriend and my sister and my aunts... basically every white woman i know who isnt a stay at home mom that i know. not to mention the drug addicts i know refer to the nearby ghettos for their shit. but hey.. someones gotta make up the asshole population and its also hard to educate a group of people who refuse to be educated the worlds fucked up blow trees kill bankers etc rofl



TheRock	Sep 9 2011, 12:34 AM Post #121
Posts: 931 Group: Warrior Member #59 Joined: March 23, 2008	gatman Sep 8 2011, 05:28 PM Hype Sep 8 2011, 02:43 PM The universe isn't deterministic. "Well there hasn't been any proven non-deterministic system, although if you are using some shitty internet definition it's no wonder you thought there was some argument here." Chaos theory, principles of uncertainty, quantum theory, none of these contradict determinism You know we can just turn this around and say, "there hasn't been any proven system that says life is predetermined."So what the fuck have we learned by introducing the philosophical element in this conversation. nothing. You can't use fucking science and philosophy and apply it here, they just don't give a flying fuck about anything, and enjoy being shitty in society..THANKS@ P3wp.



Deleted User	Sep 9 2011, 07:14 PM Post #122
Deleted User	gatman Sep 8 2011, 05:28 PM Hype Sep 8 2011, 02:43 PM The universe isn't deterministic. "Well there hasn't been any proven non-deterministic system, although if you are using some shitty internet definition it's no wonder you thought there was some argument here." Chaos theory, principles of uncertainty, quantum theory, none of these contradict determinism the middle one directly contradicts determinism.
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gatman	Sep 9 2011, 07:37 PM Post #123
The Greatest Posts: 2,473 Group: Warrior Member #582 Joined: July 9, 2008	TheRock Sep 9 2011, 12:34 AM You know we can just turn this around and say, "there hasn't been any proven system that says life is predetermined."So what the fuck have we learned by introducing the philosophical element in this conversation. nothing. You can't use fucking science and philosophy and apply it here, they just don't give a flying fuck about anything, and enjoy being shitty in society..THANKS@ P3wp. Firstly, i have not said once that life is predetermined, i have been saying choice/action/thought is determined, because hurr cause and effect. If you think there has been no proven system to be determined by specific factors, well i'm not taking this any further. What have you learned from the philosophical element to this discussion, nothing, but i can't be blamed for that. Can't use science and philosophy and apply it? Do you realize how that essentially implicates nothing can be applied....When we are discussing ethics and behaviour, it is especially impossible not to include philosophy... Quote: the middle one directly contradicts determinism. No it doesn't? As i said, you must be using some incorrect online definition to even think there is an argument here. Determinism does not mean everything can be predicted (hurr chaos theory), it simply means everything is caused by something.



Louie	Sep 9 2011, 07:43 PM Post #124
Posts: 7,318 Group: Warrior Member #2,398 Joined: December 5, 2010 CPU louie	gatman Sep 9 2011, 07:37 PM it simply means everything is caused by something. then how did the first thing get caused
	arcade Jun 2 2010, 08:24 AM blade you can post screenshots of you beating people like louie in 1v1s as much as you want (seriosly with your sound, set up, and stopwatch you shouldnt lose a 1v1) but it doesnt change the fact that he is 20x the player you are.


gatman	Sep 9 2011, 07:47 PM Post #125
The Greatest Posts: 2,473 Group: Warrior Member #582 Joined: July 9, 2008	HPT-4 Sep 9 2011, 07:43 PM gatman Sep 9 2011, 07:37 PM it simply means everything is caused by something. then how did the first thing get caused >implying you think i know the answer to that >implying anyone knows the answer to that >implying that isn't the most fundamental problem addressed by science/physics/cosmology



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