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crossfire	Sep 27 2011, 09:51 PM Post #51
READ THE MOTHAFUCKING THREAD, BEFORE YOU MOTHAFUCKIN POST Posts: 3,435 Group: Warrior Member #909 Joined: September 16, 2008	needs more kw playoff devcam vids~ but good work so far, site is a bit bland, have dole hook you up xD



Btcc22	Sep 27 2011, 09:59 PM Post #52
Posts: 499 Group: Warrior Member #1,169 Joined: January 18, 2009	souless Sep 27 2011, 09:12 PM Btcc22 Sep 27 2011, 05:48 PM How does that scale? Looks like a bog standard PHP configuration. :\ that benchmark has nothing to do with the application language. It's testing how many users can hit the site per day (I configured 1 to 200 users over 30 seconds), so it's directly benchmarking the web server software. Of course, hardcore programmers wouldn't know too much about IT I know what it is - Apache Bench with a graphical interface. I was asking you what's scalable about your application. Besides, it has a good deal to do with the application language since every hit is invoking the PHP interpreter. Edited by Btcc22, Sep 27 2011, 10:06 PM.
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HPT--1	Sep 27 2011, 10:12 PM Post #53
Haloindex Admin Posts: 5,211 Group: Warrior Member #1,213 Joined: February 3, 2009	Btcc22 Sep 27 2011, 09:59 PM souless Sep 27 2011, 09:12 PM Btcc22 Sep 27 2011, 05:48 PM How does that scale? Looks like a bog standard PHP configuration. :\ that benchmark has nothing to do with the application language. It's testing how many users can hit the site per day (I configured 1 to 200 users over 30 seconds), so it's directly benchmarking the web server software. Of course, hardcore programmers wouldn't know too much about IT I know what it is - Apache Bench with a graphical interface. I was asking you what's scalable about your application. lol I'm not using Apache niggersauce. + Apache Bench spews a gay log file, not a pretty graph. Apache sure as hell can't handle over a million users/day on the small VPS I'm running. As for scalability, I'm working with MongoDB and it's sharding capabilities. Other than that, there's not too much to brag since truly scalable applications NEED to cut back on a few things I find essential. E.g, notice how Google/Youtube don't give you true total results, and their pagination is not done via an offset - I think Haloindex doesn't need to be as scalable as Youtube, since I'm looking to make a place where people can easily find oldschool shit or look at everything/anything on a single page. And you didn't read my initial post right, get @ blitz.io - not for scalable apps, rather a scalable web server. Edited by HPT--1, Sep 27 2011, 10:13 PM.
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Btcc22	Sep 27 2011, 10:43 PM Post #54
Posts: 499 Group: Warrior Member #1,169 Joined: January 18, 2009	I don't know the specs of your VPS but I'm sure Apache and PHP could handle 11.5 requests/sec just fine. You could probably have your site serving thousands of requests/sec (provided the bandwidth is there) with zero compromise. What's the real difference between a scalable app and a scalable webserver exactly? I'd say they go hand in hand. Sure, you have technologies such as Memcached and MongoDB but they're not a lot of good unless you've taken the more forward facing services into account when building your app. I'd rather have a more efficient app and avoid the need to scale in the first place, if it can be helped. You know the adage - don't throw hardware at a software problem. Edited by Btcc22, Sep 27 2011, 10:45 PM.
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HPT--1	Sep 27 2011, 11:07 PM Post #55
Haloindex Admin Posts: 5,211 Group: Warrior Member #1,213 Joined: February 3, 2009	Btcc22 Sep 27 2011, 10:43 PM I don't know the specs of your VPS but I'm sure Apache and PHP could handle 11.5 requests/sec just fine. You could probably have your site serving thousands of requests/sec (provided the bandwidth is there) with zero compromise. What's the real difference between a scalable app and a scalable webserver exactly? I'd say they go hand in hand. Sure, you have technologies such as Memcached and MongoDB but they're not a lot of good unless you've taken the more forward facing services into account when building your app. I'd rather have a more efficient app and avoid the need to scale in the first place, if it can be helped. You know the adage - don't throw hardware at a software problem. My current setup handles nearly 100req/sec (improved on a few more things since those benchmarks above). Also simply testing req/sec will not impede on bandwidth (just 14mb for a 100 request/sec test), it's all about how fast the web server processes requests and handles RAM allocation. All these tests were done with all caching turned off, btw. http://blog.martinfjordvald.com/2010/09/12000-requests-per-second-with-nginx-php-and-memcached/ 12,000 requests/second, 6GB RAM 2.8ghz quad core, caching turned on I'm running @ 2GB RAM, 1.8ghz dual core (only 1 core and 512MB for nginx, the rest of minecraft). Scalability usually implies cutting down on unnecessary requests and smart cacheing - basically the idea of "only use the cpu/bandwidth for what you need, cache everything else". So in reality, you can create beautifully scalable applications, but without a scalable server they are pretty much pointless. They do go hand-in-hand, but there is a huge difference between web servers and application programming. Your app == forward facing service, thus scalable apps must take advantage of caching/sharding/etc. Scalable applications are pretty easy to make, thats why I got bored with the web development - then I realized I could improve so much on the server level, so I ran with that and bought my own VPS to test all kinds of web servers. And that adage has nothing to do with the issue at hand, lol. edit: gotta hit up court early tomorrow morning, ttyl babe <3 Edited by HPT--1, Sep 27 2011, 11:12 PM.
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Deleted User	Sep 28 2011, 10:27 AM Post #56
Deleted User	Good shit tbh. Just hope this site actually lasts.
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HPT--1	Sep 28 2011, 10:47 AM Post #57
Haloindex Admin Posts: 5,211 Group: Warrior Member #1,213 Joined: February 3, 2009	A is for? Sep 28 2011, 10:27 AM Good shit tbh. Just hope thise site actually lasts. my heart skipped a beat <3
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Erosion	Sep 28 2011, 10:59 AM Post #58
Negro Patrol "¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posts: 9,567 Group: Warrior Member #940 Joined: September 25, 2008	I've tried your site many times in the past and it never fucking worked. Seems to be operating pretty well now though so good job. http://haloindex.com/vids/robby-is-good/ best vid. vids need some organizing. hard to sort through dis shit Edited by Erosion, Sep 28 2011, 11:02 AM.



HPT--1	Sep 28 2011, 11:42 AM Post #59
Haloindex Admin Posts: 5,211 Group: Warrior Member #1,213 Joined: February 3, 2009	Currently working on a mechanism where users can comment on clips per video. It'll be pretty kickass.
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ocse	Sep 28 2011, 02:33 PM Post #60
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HPT--1	Sep 29 2011, 12:43 AM Post #61
Haloindex Admin Posts: 5,211 Group: Warrior Member #1,213 Joined: February 3, 2009	@masood, wtf you spreading viruses?
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HPT--1	Sep 29 2011, 10:14 AM Post #62
Haloindex Admin Posts: 5,211 Group: Warrior Member #1,213 Joined: February 3, 2009	oh and also Edited by HPT--1, Sep 29 2011, 10:14 AM.
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imnotflare	Sep 29 2011, 11:30 AM Post #63
Posts: 2,481 Group: Warrior Member #195 Joined: April 13, 2008	souless Sep 29 2011, 10:14 AM oh and also i feel like i'm having a seizure with that background



HPT--1	Sep 29 2011, 12:29 PM Post #64
Haloindex Admin Posts: 5,211 Group: Warrior Member #1,213 Joined: February 3, 2009	imnotflare Sep 29 2011, 11:30 AM souless Sep 29 2011, 10:14 AM oh and also i feel like i'm having a seizure with that background ima have a contest later this month for hi-res halo 1 pc backgrounds preferably some sort of devcamming pubs on ce + photoshopping = sexy bgs Edited by HPT--1, Sep 29 2011, 12:30 PM.
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low	Oct 1 2011, 12:04 AM Post #65
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HPT--1	Oct 1 2011, 12:51 AM Post #66
Haloindex Admin Posts: 5,211 Group: Warrior Member #1,213 Joined: February 3, 2009	low Oct 1 2011, 12:04 AM gg unedit bitch
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