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Christ Will Be All In All; what does this mean exactly?
Topic Started: Oct 14 2006, 07:32 PM (711 Views)
Becky
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I was talking with my husband (months ago, but just thought about it again) about the verses where it says that God or Jesus will be "all in all"... my husband asked me what it meant (but didn't really wanna know) He really was asking me if I knew what it really meant (literallly)... and my explanation wasn't so sure... I think that it means that we will be perfected like Christ and he will be in us completely.... which makes us a "family" but I don't think that my husband was satisfied with this answer.... is this the right answer? Is there more to this statement that I do not understand?
Please advise! :unsure:
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Becky wrote:
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Is there more to this statement that I do not understand?


i think there is more to All in All than we (all of us) even dare to comprehend (until God enables)

but it sure is awesome trying !

like when Christ Jesus says

Joh 16:12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
Joh 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
Joh 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

i've got to go and think about this, back later

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Q: where did ALL (every single anything) come from?

A: God

Q: what is ALL (every single anything) going through? (especially those who are being changed)

A: whatever God wants to do

Q: where are ALL (every single anything) that is not destroyed by God (flesh etc, sin etc, sorrow etc, death) going to end up?

A: in God

(Rom 11:36) (ertsky translation) For out from him, and through him, and into him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

in Him we live and move and have our being.

2Co 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
2Co 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

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PS:

Col 2:2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;
Col 2:3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
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Christ is all in all

Col 3:10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

God will be all in all

1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

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Eph 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
Eph 3:18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
Eph 3:19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

what manner of love is this!

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Thanks f

This my first time using the Forum.

I've been reading the IWWB site for about 18 months now and my mind is still being blown away!

I've been wondering though does "all things" include animals?
Just a thought as the bible does talk about the gospel being preached to every creature:

If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister; (Col 1:23)

The word " creature" probably needs to be studied.

any thoughts?


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I understand what you are saying, and with scriptures like these, it’s hard to believe otherwise.

Gen 1:31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Rom 8:21 because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

Gen 9:8 Then God spoke to Noah and to his sons with him, saying:
Gen 9:9 "And as for Me, behold, I establish My covenant with you and with your descendants after you,
Gen 9:10 and with every living creature that is with you: the birds, the cattle, and every beast of the earth with you, of all that go out of the ark, every beast of the earth.
Gen 9:11 Thus I establish My covenant with you: Never again shall all flesh be cut off by the waters of the flood; never again shall there be a flood to destroy the earth."
Gen 9:12 And God said: "This is the sign of the covenant which I make between Me and you, and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
Gen 9:13 I set My rainbow in the cloud, and it shall be for the sign of the covenant between Me and the earth.

Job 12:7 "But now ask the beasts, and they will teach you;
And the birds of the air, and they will tell you;
Job 12:8 Or speak to the earth, and it will teach you;
And the fish of the sea will explain to you.
Job 12:9 Who among all these does not know
That the hand of the LORD has done this,
Job 12:10 In whose hand is the life of every living thing,
And the breath of all mankind?

These words are spirit.

Joh 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

Rev 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, I heard saying:
"Blessing and honor and glory and power
Be to Him who sits on the throne,
And to the Lamb, forever and ever!"

Psa 145:9 The LORD is good to all,
And His tender mercies are over all His works.

Psa 145:16 You open Your hand
And satisfy the desire of every living thing.

Pro 12:10 A righteous man regards the life of his animal,
But the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.

We must remember!

2Co 3:6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

We know that animals are definitely not being made into the image of God.

Gen 9:6 "Whoever sheds man's blood, By man his blood shall be shed; For in the image of God He made man.

The one thing we know for sure is:
Psa 145:9 The LORD is good to all, And His tender mercies are over all His works

I found the writings below to be helpful.

http://iswasandwillbe.com/2005100507.php
http://iswasandwillbe.com/2005031201.php
http://iswasandwillbe.com/whythebible.php
http://iswasandwillbe.com/sovereignty21.php

God Bless
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sheravo wrote:
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I've been wondering though does "all things" include animals?


i figure it doesn't, i'd thought that since flesh and blood can't inherit the kingdom, and that flesh and blood is what animals are that they would just be destroyed along with all flesh eventually.

Gen 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

Gen 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

verses like

1Co 9:9 For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?
1Co 9:10 Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written:
that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.

hadn't really encouraged me to look for oxen or any other animal after the resurrection. (first or second)

but if God wants to put creatures other than humans after the resurrection i am sure He will, and nothing in heaven or earth will stop Him.

it's just He's never said anything to me about it.

i never really thought about it much till your post. i don't care much either way, and have no desire whatsoever to dispute the matter.

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the bible does talk about the gospel being preached to every creature:


the word for creature in Col 1:23 is the greek ktisis

G2937
κτίσις
ktisis
ktis'-is
From G2936; original formation (properly the act; by implication the thing, literally or figuratively)

i read this as the first adam ie. unregenerated humans

as in

Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

ie. we are the world, the original formation that must be regenerated and made anew in Christ

ie. new creature

2Co 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

all things ie. all things pertaining to man

Heb 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

PRAISE GOD!! for his infinite mercy endures into the age and beyond

earlier i thought i heard someone say "but not to oxen frank, look at your avatar" :lol:

PS:

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2Pe 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
2Pe 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.



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