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| The Two Thieves On The Cross; robbing God | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 2 2008, 10:03 PM (369 Views) | |
| lrolson | Feb 2 2008, 10:03 PM Post #1 |
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The Two Thieves on the Cross There are three crosses. Jesus is in the middle of two thieves. The number three is always the process of salvation, is, was, and will be. Why two thieves? Jesus is the is. One thief is the was, and the other thief is the will be. Mal 3:8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. Now in comparing spiritual with spiritual. When a man robs God through tithes and offerings he is robbing God of the complete flesh (10). And he is robbing God of presenting our bodies a living sacrifice. We offer our bodies a living sacrifice. Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. The old covenant Levites robbed God by only living by the shadow of tithing. That is the was application of one thief. The will be application is the second thief that robs God. Those that teach Jesus did it all for us is robbing God of the spiritual tithe. So Jesus is in the middle of two thieves. Looking out through the eyes of Jesus he has one thief on his left and one on the right. Jesus is the is and looking to the left he sees the was thief. Looking to the right he sees the will be thief. Only those that see the (inward) is application will not be robbing God of his spiritual tithe. He that tries to enter in some other way is a thief and a robber. Joh 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. Jesus is the door. The is application is the only way we can enter in. Jesus is the is. Coming in through the was is robbing God. Coming in through the will be is robbing God. Now the thief (both) are promised salvation! But only the one who enters in through the is (the door) will not rob God out of his spiritual tithe (giving up the flesh) and will be in the first resurrection. We have to give God his (spiritual) tithe and not rob God if we are to enter in by the door. And the door is Jesus the is. And Jesus dying on the cross is us. We are the flesh, the tithe that we give to God. Rick |
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| Steven Crook | Feb 18 2008, 09:15 AM Post #2 |
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Hello Rick! Thanks for the post. As I was reading your last comments, I thought about this: (Joh 10:1) Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. (Joh 10:2) But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. Wait a minute!?! I thought Christ is the shepard of the sheep? He is, but out of Christ's mouth He witnesses to the truth of those that enter the door BECOME and ARE the DOOR! Wow! (Joh 10:6) This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them. You are simply speaking about the elect when you relate who the thieves represent. Christ has His Christ, who will to day be with him in paradise, and the other (who will also be redeemed) who will not. (Act 4:26) The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ. This is speaking about Peter, and the scriptures refer to Peter as his Christ. We are Christ's christ, so it is the same thing as saying the elect are a type of firstfruits, the pillars in the temple, thieves on a cross, etc. The elect have the mind of Christ, so in effect the elect are used to bring in the rest of the fruit, but the work is of the Lord. This is in much the same way that the pillars are the entrance to the temple! The copper and silver sockets represent a wealth of information as it pertains to the "door". Thanks for your comments Rick! Hope to see you in Dallas. YBITC |
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| lrolson | Feb 19 2008, 06:51 AM Post #3 |
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Steve How many times have I read... Joh 10:2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. and I did not see the (he-is) in that verse. WOW! Thank you Steve! I am planning on being in Dallas. Our Lord willing. YBITC Rick |
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| Timothy Vaughan | Feb 20 2008, 01:35 AM Post #4 |
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Hi everyone! The DOOR is the GATE of LIFE.Into the TEMPLE FIRST THE NEGATIVE OR IS IT? IT"S ALL GOOD TO GO! Theres only 1 way in. (go not to the left or right)WHY? been there ,DONE THAT, GOT THE T-shirt BEFORE? MISSED THE MARK To the hoiliest. 1GOD /1SPIRIT/1 BAPTISM (ALL & ALL IS 1) (From) the EAST. Babylon (COME OUT OF HER) you have to go through JUDAH (ARMY OF )(judah)num 2:1-4/Then moses/arron & his SONS ON THE EAST SIDE num 3:38 / THIS IS THE CHRIST If you believed moses You would BELIEVE CHRIST Going due (WEST) Where the holiest is! GOD Through JUDAH (salvation is of the jews) But one MUST BE circumsised of HEART to be a jew! (spiritual jew) Through the EAST GATE (first gate/door/mouth of the BODY/GUARDED BY LIONS/jews) LOOK OUT ? women are gathered their at the DOOR of the tabernacle (this body of death)/THE 7 churches in ASIA (inside me) ALSO We walk through the middle of them (the middle wall is BROKEN DOWN) We jewish gentiles 1 NEW MAN/ Don't hang out there. WE proceed WEST. Laying aside the weights(false balances) IRON,LEAD,TIN, copper SIN/ GO FOR THE GOLD (buy it/sell it NOT) It is an ABOMINATION too be their.(in the tents of the wicked)Thats where we have (been hang out side of the gate sooo LONG in the wilderness of sin/with 7 concubines/7 churches in asia) Not able to enter at the STRAIGHT & NARROW GATE that LEADS to LIFE! FEW THAT BE THAT FIND THAT GATE/DOOR because of BLINDNESS .We are WEARIED to find that door. IT IS SHUT.BECAUSE OF UNBELEIF.Gen 19:5-11 BUT THEIR IS ALWAYS HOPE (SAVED BY HOPE) BUT the JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH NOT BY SIGHT.For faith is the substance HOPED for NOT SEEN! WHY?Because i was a SLOTHFUL SERVANT (LAZY)/BUSYBODY/partaker of other men's sins/WORKING NOT AT ALL/ Groping in the DARK. I NEED TO GET THE LEAD OUT? GET WORKING WHILE IT IS DAY??? BEFORE the NIGHT COMES WHEN NO (MAN) CAN WORK (SEE)? For FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS (DEAD). For the demons ( in ME) BELIEVE.AND THEY TREMBLE!!! For we {wrestle} not with FLESH & BLOOD ,but against PRINCIPALITIES,AGAINST POWERS(THIERS NO POWER BUT BY GOD),AGAINST THE RULERS OF THE DARKNESS OF THIS WORLD,AGAINST SPIRITUAL WICKEDNESS IN THE (HEAVENLY) PLACES! But i'm a pretty good wrestler.Even though my thigh is out of joint. I WILL NOT LET GO TILL YOU BLESS ME! gen 32:24-28 I've did horrible things! FOR I WASTED THE CHURCH! YES! WRETCHED<MISERABLE<POOR <BLIND <NAKED< PERSECUTING CHRIST <ABUSING HIM YET whats that sound i (((HEAR))) at the door? AFTER I"VE BEEN VEXED BY 7 SPIRITS IN ASIA?? SENT BY GOD!! in the tabernacles/tents of the wicked A KNOCK??? REV 4:17-22 CAN my uncircumsied ears HEAR his COMMANDS??Acts 7:51& 57 HEAR HIS LAWS IN the 7th YEAR?Due 31:9-13/Roms 10;17-21/Isa 6:8-11 In these tabernacles/tents? Is the candle of the wicked put out in this tent/Tabernacle/temple / BODY? Yet? FOR i must die OUTSIDE of the gate. With the gentiles.At the place CALLED in my skull THIS IS THE DOOR OF UTTERANCE (IN ME)Col 4:3 THE GOSPEL For the spirit SPEAKS exspressly.it has been opened No man can SHUT IT No man can (walk) through it.without going through the 2 EDGEDED flaming FIERY sword at the EAST GATE! THE GATE is AT the MOUTH of DEATH. (the lion of judah is THERE) This is were you find the GATE! The tounge/2 edged SWORD. The VAIL BETWEEN Blessing & cursings.Life & DEATH Proceed from the tounge . NO MAN CAN TAME IT! It sets a fire!Because its aready been kindled. It is a WHOLESOME tree of LIFE.to them that find it. As he is so are we in this world .WE ARE THE WAY/GATE/door/vail/TOUNGE> TO CHRIST> TO GOD This VAIL/DOOR/FLESH( cheribums) MUST BE RENT INTO. so others can walk through BOLDLY FOR THE RIGHTOUS(ELECT) STAND AS BOLD AS A LION (LION OF JUDAH) AT the enterance of the GATE/door. none is so fierce as him.KING OF BEASTS Timothy |
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| joyful1 | Feb 24 2008, 03:14 AM Post #5 |
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wow! Timothy--that was interesting....just wondering ....what do you think about ...verse 9 -- I am the Door. If any one enters by me, he will find safety, and will go in and out and find pasture. I came across this recently and thought... we know that the Kingdom is within... but we often "go out" into the world... just wondering what your take is ? Joyce
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| Timothy Vaughan | Feb 24 2008, 06:13 PM Post #6 |
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Greetings joyful, Love the name.JOYFUL As you know my take on it does not mean a hill of beans. We are instructed? Lean NOT to your own understanding. & trust not OURSELVES. Let every man (Timothy Vaughan) be a liar And let GOD (only WISE GOD) be true. Why? because we have a sentence of DEATH (man of sin/leaven) in us. He (shall be) destoyed by the BRIGHTNESS of his coming. day by day He MUST increase (christ in me).GLORY TO GLORY I (man of sin) must decrease . I DIE DAILY. (Now) we are in these marred vessels.(flesh & blood) ALL MEN (mankind) ARE. We see through a glass DARKLY. In (EARNEST EXPECTATION) the (fulness) is not yet. YET IT IS ALREADY GOOD AS GOLD. For he declares the beginning & the END. THE AUTHOR & FINISHER OF OUR FAITH In DOWN payment form .We can NEVER be highminded.Yet we live every word.Gal 6:3 For knowledge PUFFS up . LIKE LEAVEN (yeast)== SIN till it leaven the whole lump(man of sin in his fulness/fullness of the gentiles).this is the bread of mourners. The BREAD of malice & wickedness. BUT LOVE (whats greater LOVE or knowledge?) 1 cor 13:2 GOD IS LOVE== Builds up by (exortation & comfort) in CHRIST Christ builds his CHURCH by LOVE! SPEAK THE TRUTH IN LOVE ! FOR GOD IS LOVE! He is ALL THE FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT. For this is LOVE (GOD).That we keep his COMMANDMENTS! YET this is true? (TRUTH) Bread of sincerity & truth is UNLEAVEN BREAD. 1 cor 5:6-8 This is the BREAD that came down unto us. FLAT BREAD. BREAD OF THE PRESENCE/SHEWBREAD brought in new ONCE in every 7th day in the days of moses .(BUT NOW EVERY DAY). This is for his priests to eat DAILY (our daily BREAD) ABASED, HUMBLE. NOT puffed up. No pride left. Contrite one.GAVE UP EVERYTHING! Though he was RICH he BECAME POOR FOR OUR SAKES This MUST HAPPEN TO US ALL. (FLATENDED/abased) we are waved before our father & his father.OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN. Give us this DAILY OMER OF bread! (christ) LIFT UP HOLY HANDS AND WAVE HIM (wave sheaf) IN HUMILITY Then we can have pride (leaven/puffs up) in GOD.(50 days in jubilee)Show OFF our beautiful coat of many colors. (TILL) THE WHOLE LUMP IS HOLY.( this is in earnest/now) Roms 11:16 For if the firstfruit be HOLY. the LUMP is HOLY. call no man unclean/ to the PURE ALL THINGS ARE PURE Also 1 cor 5:6-7 Learn the short parable? ((positive side)) of our evil (leaven)expierence given to the sons of men to be EXERCISED FOR the KINGDOM OF GOD IS LIKE UNTO (LEAVEN/all things WORK for good) .Which a WOMAN (mother of us all) took, and (HID) in three (process)measures of MEAL (US), till the WHOLE (lump)was LEAVENED BREAD. THIS IS WHAT IS EATEN BY THE PRIESTS AT PENTECOST (LEAVEN BREAD) WHEAT HARVEST/FIRSTFRUITS UNLEAVEN BREAD WAS (ALREADY EATEN) DURING THE PASSOVER for 7 full days (completion) GLORY TO GOD ONLY! Now the Question??? In humility Jn 10:9 I am the door (GOD IN CHRIST IN ME): by ME (ELECT) IF?? any man enter in (the GATE/door of utterance/the christ) HE SHALL BE SAVED (we are saviors) and shall go in & out (of the same GATE/Door/mouth from life unto death or death unto life) To die is gain in order to HAVE LIFE you must die FIRST. and find PASTURE== LIFE/grain to eat/rest for weariness of the flesh for he who find his LIFE (pasture) must first LOOSE IT (himself/life ) we go in & out of this GATE of this temple to FEED the masses the WORD OF GOD /BREAD OF LIFE but the IF???? part is do they want IT ? Moses or christ?? What kind of bread do they want???? WHAT IS IT ( hidden MANNA) We are all shepards/,sheep/ doors /gates/ pasture! Ps 23 This is ALL negative & positive. BUT ALL THINGS WORK TOWARD (FORWARD) to the GOOD to those who LOVE GOD .(keep his commands) ALL REVELATION comes(PROCEEDS) by the father through Christ (to reveal JESUS CHRIST TO US) through the (the christ) to those those OUTSIDE OF THE GATE till ALL & ALL IS done . THIS IS A PROCESS. On his timetable not mine. This is happenens only in (earnest/payment). Yet GOD calls those things that (ARE NOT/ our present state) as though they ARE. (our will be state) THIS IS FAITH. the substance hoped for (our will be state/glorified body) yet not seen.(because of our present blindness/flesh.) YET IT (IS) REAL CERTAIN! If GOD BE FOR US WHO CAN BE AGAINST US??? timothy |
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wow! Timothy--that was interesting....just wondering ....what do you think about ...

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