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| An Ox In A Ditch; the spiritual significance | |
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| lrolson | May 5 2008, 07:26 AM Post #1 |
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An ox in a ditch Pro 23:27 For a whore is a deep ditch; and a strange woman is a narrow pit. Joseph's brothers cast him into a pit, symbolizing the church. Gen 37:20 Come now therefore, and let us slay him, and cast him into some pit, and we will say, Some evil beast hath devoured him: and we shall see what will become of his dreams. We all are as sheep that have fallen into a pit (church). Mat 12:11 And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out? We also are as an ass or an ox (beast) that have fallen into a pit (church). Luk 14:5 And answered them, saying, Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day? The blind (ministers) leading the blind (church) both fall into the ditch (church). Mat 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. Luk 6:39 And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch? Luk 14:5 And answered them, saying, Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day? We do get out of the pit on the sabbath day. The sabbath symnolizes death (rest). Jesus rested (was dead) on the sabbath day. Not until we as beasts die and are dying daily do we get out of the pit. Those in the church (or pit or ditch) are carnally minded. Paul accuses the church of being yet carnaly minded. 1Co 3:3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? The old testament word for hell is below.... H7585 שׁאל שׁאול she'ôl she'ôl sheh-ole', sheh-ole' From H7592; hades or the world of the dead (as if a subterranian retreat), including its accessories and inmates: - grave, hell, pit. Those in the church or pit are dead spiritually. The place of the dead is the church. Old covenant church or new covenant church. This Hebrew word sheol is paralelled with the Greek hades in the new testament.... G86 ᾅδης hadēs hah'-dace From G1 (as a negative particle) and G1492; properly unseen, that is, “Hades” or the place (state) of departed souls: - grave, hell. To be in the church is to be carnally minded. And to be carnally minded is to be dead. Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. To be spiritually minded is life and peace. Coming out of the pit (church) (Babylon), is a resurrection from death. Rick |
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| Timothy Vaughan | May 8 2008, 01:18 AM Post #2 |
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Amen Rick, But as paul harvey would say? What's the REST of the story. It is vast as the OCEAN/sea. It (is) (YET) not full.ecc 1:7 Hell/sea has ENLARGED (HERSELF)= babylon IT (IS) YET NOT FULL isa 5:14-16/prov 27;20 The sea is the DEEP which (is) (babylon) WHICH (IS) the PIT. HER (Samaria) AHABS WIFE/jezebel= MEANS UNMARRIED/fornication) HER prophets ( PUT WATER IN) the TRENCH /1 kings 18;17-46 (GOD causes 400(whole) in us to do this/WHICH EAT AT HER TABLE) at the first. To (show) us our sins! This is OUR BED ps 139:8(hell/hades/DEATH/SHOEL) we (SLEEP) WITH HER (jezebel/rev 2;18-23/BABYLON/CONFUSION) & FOLLY due 22:20-21 Yes I made a covenant/agreement (of death)with a harlot (jerusalem below) BUT IT SHALL NOT STAND.Isa 28:15-18/ due 5;23-28 This brought me GREAT sorrow.Ps 18;5/This beginning of sorrows (from) my belly to GIVE birth to my son.ecc 1;16-18 for i travail in birth TILL christ be formed in me ecc 11;5 ELIJAH DIGS (MAKES) THIS <<TRENCH>>====== 1 kings 18:32/ TRENCH MEANS(strongs 8585/water course/CONDUIT/HEALING/Bandage/Channel/LITTLE RIVER) Notice this CHANGE? 1 kings 18:35&38 <Trench > means (8565 SEA MONSTER/SERPENT /WHALE/LIVITHIAN/RED DRAGON/compare 8577) ELIJAH FILLS the SEA SERPENT =(trench) /the WOOD OFFERING/neh 13:31 IN ORDER jer 5:14/1 cor 15;23/Altar WITH WATER (of the WORD) BUT GOD (TRUE GOD) ANSWERS 1 kings 18:24 WITH FIRE!BURNS UP EVERYTHING (flesh) then (ELIJAH/MEANS = MY GOD is YAHOVAH/WITHIN ME) KILLS / due 32;35-42 THE 400 (WHOLE of the GROVE trees/Besides the 450 of Baal jer 46:18 ) prophets of ahab (man of sin) that EATS at jezebels table 1 cor 10;21. With the Whet glittering FLAMING SWORD That proceeds from my mouth. As he IS so are WE in this WORLD/CHURCH/EARTH HE SLAYS THEM (within & without me) <<ALL & ALL 1 kings 18:36-40 I AM THAT I AM (ELIJAH/Baptist OF FIRE! mark 15:29-36/mt 27:45-50/NOTICE THE (TIME) OF DAY==DARKNESS EVENING SACRIFICE 12 oclock NOON till 3 oclock DARKNESS COVERED the EARTH! 1 kings 18;36-39/ HE IS GOD'S SON Luke 23;47/mk 15:39/ mt 27:54 He is the (day star) of the morning & the evening SACRIFICE. A light OUT OF DARKNESS! Shines in a DARK PLACE. Till all& all (darkness/trench)IS BURNT up BY FIRE! BLESSED be the LORD ALONE (whom) alone does ALL THESE THINGS BECAUSE a DOUBLE/James 1:5-8/1 kings 18:20-21 (WAVE/death OF THE SEA) MINDED/ 1 kings 18:17- MAN OF SIN (IS )UNSTABLE IN ALL (HIS) WAYS So God causes us to PUT WATER/word/US INTO IT ( BRAZEN/copper/red sea) Wheres the BEAST FROM? The TRENCH leviathan, RED DRAGON/ from?THE SEA/grave will be no MORE Rev 21:1 TRENCH (was) FILLED /SAVED/BAPTISED/WASHED with water. First Baptism/JOHNS(water of the WORD/to WASH our filty garments/REPENTANCE but is not enough There is a second BAPTISM THEN all & all (water/sea/death/law of moses/1 cor 10:1-4/ rom 6:1-11/) is CONSUMED/CLEANSED by the BAPTISM of JEALOSY /FIRE! 2 peter3 :5-14 By the LAKE OF FIRE/NOT WATER/YET (IS) a LAKE The earth/adam/beast rises out of the SEA. (deep) Jonah (WAS) cast into the deep (sea). We(water) are DRAWN/dragged from the WELLS OF SALVATION WITH JOY! ISA 12:1-3/FOR the WELL OF JACOB IS (DEEP) jn 4:4-13 He shall thirst AGAIN. But out of the (belly /pit/whale/DEEP) shall come LIVING WATERS BEHOLD a greater than JONAH (IS) HERE. For my FATHER (IS) GREATER than I WHOM CONTROLS THE BEAST? Whom Controls (commands the SERPENT?) WHOM SWALLOWED UP JONAH (WHOLE) Who CONTROLS & CAUSES the TEMPEST? And CALMS it? And the billows of WAVES Of (death)Jonah 2:1-10/Ps 107:24-32/acts 27 STIRED up by the 4 WINDs/SPIRITS of doctrine? Whom GATHERED these WINDS IN HIS FISTS?With the 7 stars in his right hand?Whom acended to heaven & came down from HEAVEN? TELL ME HIS NAME? What is his Son's NAME? IF thou can TELL ?prov 30:1-4 For I AM THAT I AM more BRUTISH than ANY MAN! Whom KILLS & MAKES ALIVE? BLESSED BE HIM! to him that hath an ear let him hear Amen |
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| ertsky | May 8 2008, 08:31 PM Post #3 |
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Hi Rick thanks for sharing freely what's been given you to see, very edifying. women received their dead back to life again (Heb 11) i am he that lives and was dead (Rev 1) truly the letter kills but the spirit gives life f PS: Isa 29:18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness. Isa 29:19 The meek also shall increase their joy in the LORD, and the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel. |
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