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| Macedonian Militant | Aug 17 2007, 11:09 PM Post #61 |
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Actually, you have to be full blooded to be made, however some people went against this idea and made non-Italians / half-breeds however this was / is rare and almost always only full blooded Italians are made. Being Italian and knowing the Don are sepreate things. The Don knows a lot of people, some not Italian or not full blooded. |
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| FBI_Italian | Aug 17 2007, 11:19 PM Post #62 |
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I never said you had to be Italian to know the Don. I said you usally must be Italian to have personel relations with the Don. Tom was the consigliere of the Corleone Crime family, which is a VERY close position in the mafia. That's why a lot of people found it odd when they found out he wasn't Italian. He actually is also the adopted son of Vito. So they probably say his last name just to not get him confused having an Italian last name and not actually being Italian. |
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| Macedonian Militant | Aug 17 2007, 11:29 PM Post #63 |
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Personal relations can mean more than one thing. It can mean being friends, in which case you can be a civillian, or in the family. If you mean personal relations as in being in a high position in the mob than yes, they're virtually all Italians. |
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| Macedonian Militant | Aug 17 2007, 11:32 PM Post #64 |
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| Macedonian Militant | Aug 17 2007, 11:39 PM Post #65 |
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'He actually is also the adopted son of Vito. So they probably say his last name just to not get him confused having an Italian last name and not actually being Italian. ' That's what I meant by he's not one of his sons, he's not blood related. Also, Hagan doesn't really sound Italian to me. |
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| FBI_Italian | Aug 17 2007, 11:39 PM Post #66 |
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Please explain to me how being a regular civillian is a personal relation with the Don? A personal relation would be any of the following:
The rest are just family friends, friends, contacts, outsiders, ect. These people are the only people that have any personal relation with the Don within the mafia. |
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| FBI_Italian | Aug 17 2007, 11:43 PM Post #67 |
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Then that's probably why they would say his last name. And of coarse Hagen doesn't sound Italian! Are you understanding anything I'm saying? Hagen was brought into the Corleone family(he's mother and father died). Tom saved Sonny while they were children and while Tom was homeless. So Vito brought him in. Now picture if they would start calling him, Tom Corleone. Everyone would think he is a blood son to Vito and that he was Italian.(Corleone=Italian name) So they just called him Tom Hagen to show he is not blood related nor Italian. |
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| Macedonian Militant | Aug 17 2007, 11:46 PM Post #68 |
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Do you know the meaning of personal relations ? They can be a friend of the Don,and that'd be a personal relation. Just 'cause your in the family doesn't mean anything. There have been cases where a soldato hasn't met the Don of the family he's in, while this is rare, it has happened, does that mean they have a personal relation just 'cause he got made ? NO. You can be a close friend of the Don and not be in the family. And by being a friend, that means you have a personal relationship with them. |
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| Macedonian Militant | Aug 17 2007, 11:48 PM Post #69 |
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'confused having an Italian last name and not actually being Italian.' You're the one who said it's an Italian name. Unless you meant to say that they call him Tom Hagan INSTEAD of Corleone, so as not to confuse someone. |
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| FBI_Italian | Aug 17 2007, 11:52 PM Post #70 |
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Please, go back and quote me, show me where I said Hagen is an Italian last name. You obviously need to re-read what I said. |
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| FBI_Italian | Aug 17 2007, 11:55 PM Post #71 |
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Being a friend is not a personal relation to the Don. Being a friend is being a friend. A personal relation would be someone in the family that is close to the Don. i.e. Luca Brasi, he only takes and deals orders from Vito. That is a personal relation. I'm not going to even waste my time agruing with you about this. I know I'm right. |
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| Macedonian Militant | Aug 17 2007, 11:57 PM Post #72 |
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'I'm not going to waste my time aruing with you I know I'm right' What have you been doing this whole time ? Arguing. Besides, you're the one who started the conversation, and then got all pissy about it, so I don't see why you're acting like I did something. |
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| sir skeleton sam | Aug 17 2007, 11:59 PM Post #73 |
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| FBI_Italian | Aug 18 2007, 12:03 AM Post #74 |
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You lack of knowledge about this subject is amusing. I didn't start this conversation, I just said my input from YOUR question. You:I never got why they always used Tom's full name...Is it 'cause he's not really Vito's son? Me:Or to show he's not Italian. Usually you have to be full blooded to have personel relations with the Don I didn't ask you for a reply Militant. And why do you always state the obvious? What have you been doing this whole time ? Arguing. Exactly, that's why I need to stop because arguing with you is like arguing with someone who has been beaten over the head throughout their childhood, and never seen/read The Godfather. |
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| Macedonian Militant | Aug 18 2007, 12:07 AM Post #75 |
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Uh huh, and you arguing with me, who is in your opinion stupid, makes you what ? Stupid. Arguing with an idiot makes you an idiot for having argued with an idiot. And I wasn't even asking you. I asked tour. And you answered ME, so if someone answers MY question, I'm going to reply. So you obviously started the conversation by answering a question not directed at you in any way. |
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