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| Wild Angst, Wild Action: WILD SPACE!; A spoilery discussion thread | |
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| Topic Started: Dec 17 2008, 09:15 PM (778 Views) | |
| LuvEwan | Dec 17 2008, 09:15 PM Post #1 |
"LE, you want me to what?"
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Greetings and welcome to the spoiler discussion thread for "Wild Space" by first time Star Wars pro-ficcer Karen Miller! You can share your reactions, thoughts, feelings, etc. on the book with fellow Jello Knights. Since I'm having trouble posting pictures, in lieu of a pic of the cover, I will provide a brief visual summary of the plot: Anakin loses his hand :voodoo; Obi-Wan is sad for him and comfort ensues :hug: ; Padme is mad that Obi-Wan doesn't want Anakin havin' the Jedi/Senator sex :pullhair ; Palpatine and Dooku are not nice men :mwhaha ; Bail is an actual character with a personality to boot :wtg , Ahsoka is a character but maybe not so much the personality part :screwy ; Anakin thinks Obi-Wan is lonely :broken; Padme and Anakin continue with the sex thing :puke ; Obi-Wan gets blown up :dead: , Obi-Wan and Bail talk---a lot :blah :blah :blah , Obi-Wan goes insane and Bail tells him to snap out of it :slap , Obi-Wan is caught between the light and the pull of the dark :seesaw .......and some other stuff involving Anakin :francis and Palpatine :nails and various other characters and at the end the universe is still doomed. The End. :smoke DISCUSS! |
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| Perky McSkittles | Dec 17 2008, 09:47 PM Post #2 |
LE thinks I look like this. Is it accurate? ...Yes
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I have not gotten that far yet, but I just came across a quote I found quite telling about the Old Jedi Order:
A few pages before Yoda was very politic with Palps in regards to Anakin, but when it comes to Padme... It seems so callous. I know Yoda is in a bad mood, but honestly? Telling a galactic senator to keep her pants on and stay away from a Jedi? In the first few chapters, it seems like everyone knew about the Anakin\Padme relationship... Here I thought Anakin was a bad actor, I must have been wrong for him to have be able to hide it so well for the next few years. :P I should get back to reading. :lol: |
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| LuvEwan | Dec 17 2008, 09:54 PM Post #3 |
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That is weird. Maybe because Palpatine is so much more powerful, being Supreme Chancellor,so Yoda has to be more civil and there isn't the danger of romantic entanglements between Anakin and Palps. 'Cuz romance=sex=kiddies=leaving Order. I thought it was very sweet that Obi-Wan doesn't want Anakin to have to give up Padme, and sad because he must tell them to end it anyway. The Obi-Wan and Padme interactions seem so strained, more like their conversation following Anakin's fall in ROTS. I guess they have reason to be pretty jealous of each other. |
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| Perky McSkittles | Dec 17 2008, 10:05 PM Post #4 |
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LE thinks I look like this. Is it accurate? ...Yes
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I agree, its nice to see Obi-Wan's past with Siri affect him. (I'm still hoping Siri will be in the book. ;) )That whole conversation was even more strained then ROTS I think. I think you are right that jealousy is the root of their strain here. Wow, its so sad so far. :( (But I secretly love the angst, so don't mind me.) (When I first thought about the conversation you meant when you said after his fall, I thought you meant after he fell in lava. And my response was going to be, "Yeah, of course it was a strained conversation, she had just given birth to twins and was dying. :P ) |
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| LuvEwan | Dec 17 2008, 10:12 PM Post #5 |
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:lol:
:lol: I think Siri is mentioned somewhere, but when I see her name some weird trigger goes off in my brain and I end up setting something on fire. :evil: ... :P Anakin definitely gets caught in the tug of war between Padme and Obi-Wan, it's very apparent in this book. And I love it. :wub: |
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| Draconus | Dec 18 2008, 04:48 AM Post #6 |
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:lol: On the description of the book. |
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| jeepgirl | Dec 18 2008, 05:22 AM Post #7 |
Where's My Drool Bucket???
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So.... I was thinking... Obi-Wan has had many brushes with the Dark Side... The ever going argument that he killed Darth Maul in anger - - or was that attachment??? Now we see that Yoda didn't want him to have Anakin as a Padawan because of attachment... Obi-Wan gets his mind invaded by the Sith in this book... (so that's canon) Wouldn't Obi-Wan have noticed something, anything about Palpatine... I know he's got the whole Jedi order shrouded in the Dark Side (how convenient)... But, maybe his hatred of politicians kept him away from Palpatine... Perhaps??? And getting Bail out of the way... did I read wrong but did it actually go into the land of... So, he wouldn't interfere with the Anakin/Padme thing... Palpy went there... didn't he??? |
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| Allelujah | Dec 18 2008, 08:38 AM Post #8 |
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:lol: Loved the description! So right on.
I'm so old. Went where? It was in the back of his mind that he could somehow get Bail and Padme to fall for one another. Is that what you mean? I think of any of the Jedi Obi-Wan was the only one who was always suspicious of Palps. Some of it could be explained as his aversion to all politicians but there did seem to be some underlying unease and suspicion. As for Yoda, I was taken aback on several occasions by how ruthless he was.
Bail! He was a hoot. Who knew the man had a sense of humor. I just wanted to kiss him toward the end of the book when he refused to let Obi-Wan just drift away. :buddies |
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| LuvEwan | Dec 18 2008, 09:29 AM Post #9 |
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I thought that Obi-Wan was initially blinded by anger when Maul cut Qui-Gon down, and that's why he fell into the pit, he was being too reckless. The pit would represent being between the darkness (hell) and rising above darkness. It's only when he centers, when he sees Qui-Gon, that he is able to bring the saber to his hands, rise again, and kill Maul not out of anger. It was kinda neat that so many people brought that up in the book, though. All these things fans talk about is actually being addressed in a canon book.
:o Palpatine is pretty good at what he does. And Obi-Wan doesn't really interact with him too much. The most they are on screen together is in ROTS on Grievous' ship, and Obi-Wan is unconscious or in battle for most of that. With Dooku there too, if he sensed any darkness he might have thought it was coming from Dooku, an admitted Sith Lord. And Obi-Wan's feelings about Palpatine are affected by his relationship with Anakin and his distrust of politicians, too. Wouldn't it have been weird if Palps was the politician that Obi-Wan was stuck on the evil planet with? :lol: Obi-Wan does seem to have never been a Palps fan. When you said that, Susumu, i immediately thought of the end of TPM and how Obi-Wan looks at Palpatine when Palps is talking to him and Anakin. With such dark times upon them, maybe Yoda thought he needed to be ruthless. It was pretty surprising, considering how he's usually written. Bail was amazing. I loved how they went from hating each other to supporting each other and developing this very special understanding. :drunk I LOVED the glimpses into Obi-Wan's past, and how Bail reacts to him as an outsider of the Jedi life. |
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| jeepgirl | Dec 18 2008, 01:51 PM Post #10 |
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Where's My Drool Bucket???
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What I meant was that I was wondering if it was just the way I was reading it or was Palpy actually thinking that something could develop between Padme and Bail?? Thus screwing up his Anakin plans... which it sort of read like he didn't care for... but then, why get rid of Bail when Padme worked like she did into his plan... Though I thought one of the saddest things Obi-Wan thought in this book was when he thought this: Concerning Obi-Wan having Anakin's back... And I did. I still do. But one of these days he's going to do something I can't justify. And what will become of him then I don't dare to contemplate. (Chapter 13) That is such sad foreshadowing... Though, the tie ins to the cartoon makes me want to go back and rewatch the one with where he contacts Obi-Wan when he looses Artoo just to see if it mentions anything there about the message being retransmitted???? Silly, yes... but I'm curious now. I liked Bail in this, particularly in the end when he was so committed to seeing Obi-Wan through his "trials"... It makes it all the more touching when Bail is the one in RotS seen helping out Obi-Wan and Yoda. And it's great to see when fanon becomes canon... That is always cool... |
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| Allelujah | Dec 18 2008, 02:45 PM Post #11 |
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That scene was really riveting for me. You never in any of the books that I know of have an outsider ask a Jedi point blank about their childhood or how they felt about being a Jedi. And am I the only one who wanted to cry like a baby when Obi-Wan admits to Bail that he doesn't know who he would be without the Force? :boohoo |
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| jeepgirl | Dec 18 2008, 02:57 PM Post #12 |
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Where's My Drool Bucket???
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I can't think of an example either... And yep... wanted to shed a few tears during that part. It was well done. You wouldn't know that it was her first Star Wars book... (read somewhere up there that it was her first) |
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| LuvEwan | Dec 18 2008, 05:05 PM Post #13 |
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No, definitely not! :nerves: But Obi-Wan in general made me (and Bail) want to cry most of the time. It was cool to see him as a vulnerable character, for once. On a side note, the amount of potential slashiness that could occur on Zigoola between Obi-Wan and Bail is very distracting from the plot. I think there's something about a Sith device in there somewhere, but I'm not sure. =P~ :P I was too busy basking in the male bonding. This part of the book made me literally dance on the ceiling: "...Yoda, how many times have you said it? Obi-Wan has a destiny as important as Anakin's. If something happens to him--if we should lose him---" Yoda nodded, as the weight of the hazy future tried to crush him. "Even with the Chosen One, the Force may never be rebalanced." (page 257) Y'all want to get that printed on t-shirts? |
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| jeepgirl | Dec 18 2008, 05:23 PM Post #14 |
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Where's My Drool Bucket???
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Yes... T Shirts... That would be so cool during convention season!!! |
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| Perky McSkittles | Dec 18 2008, 08:16 PM Post #15 |
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LE thinks I look like this. Is it accurate? ...Yes
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I noticed a point above and thought this was relevant: LINK Back to reading the book. :) |
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| LuvEwan | Dec 18 2008, 10:29 PM Post #16 |
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So what that article is saying is that.....Siri isn't canon? :c9 :P Another gripping moment in the book: He looked at the man who'd been his mentor and friend for ten years, and all he could think of was what he'd just lost. What he's given up by joining the Jedi. "My mother's dead," he whispered, "And it's all your fault." |
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| Perky McSkittles | Dec 18 2008, 10:54 PM Post #17 |
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LE thinks I look like this. Is it accurate? ...Yes
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:lol: According to George only the movies are cannon. I loved that part LE. I felt so bad for poor Obi. He handled it better then Yoda would have. I think there was something around that part where Yoda was so evil... Ok, not evil ,but he said something I did not find becoming of a jedi of his stature. Yoda was not my favorite character in this book. He was like almost my least favorite. I even like the evil guys better then him. At least the evil ones had an excuse... :P |
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| LuvEwan | Dec 18 2008, 11:03 PM Post #18 |
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Padme is one of the evil guys, right? Sure seems like it to me! I didn't mind Yoda; Yoda has a soft spot for Obi. It says so somewhere in the book but I can't find it right now. I know it's there---or maybe I just wrote it in the margins. :P |
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| Perky McSkittles | Dec 18 2008, 11:12 PM Post #19 |
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LE thinks I look like this. Is it accurate? ...Yes
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No, Padme was most certainly evil. I thought Yoda was way to callous. He was like, "Grrr, old I am and l33t. Means that I can be crotchety, that does. Hmmmmm...." He was like, "Anakin keep in constant contact with the council, you must. All depends on your listening to us. Ignore the force you should. The council is your guide." It just pissed me off that he would be that annoying. I used to like Yoda and here he is, all rude and yelling at Anakin for worrying about Obi, even if he didn't need to. Still... He seems so old he forgets what the bond between a Padawan and a master is like. How deep it goes, even if there isn't supposed to be attachment. Or he is bitter from Dooku. Actually, I think that might be it. He was close to Dooky, and then he turned to the dark side, so he demonizes all attachment. He was less strict in JA wasn't he? (Granted Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon never seemed to be getting along at the start of the books, but he never really told them off for Obi's (some what delusional) attachment to Qui-Gon. That is just my thoughts as to why Yoda is a crotchety old bugger. :P |
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| LuvEwan | Dec 18 2008, 11:24 PM Post #20 |
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"What happened to you, Yoda, you used to be cool!" "Still cool, Yoda is!" He did seem less strict in JA. Then again, he didn't even want Anakin trained, so it's not like he has that much love for the guy. Hm. Never thought about that before. I think the main reason Yoda wants to break up Anakin and Padme is so no one is exposed to any more of their "my love, my darling, my chee chee berry, etc" crap. So we should be thankful! Obi-Wan isn't delusional! I mean, yeah, he worshipped Qui-Gon who sometimes wasn't so great to him and in the book he cuts down a forest because he thinks the trees are Ventress and evil troops, but that's not delusional, that's just, um, well.... he is pretty. |
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| Perky McSkittles | Dec 18 2008, 11:35 PM Post #21 |
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LE thinks I look like this. Is it accurate? ...Yes
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:lol: Well I was talking about pre-teen Obi-Wan being delusional. Not Almost-Master-Obi-Wan. Though he has his moments too. One of the saddest things about Star Wars, I think, is that even if the Jedi allowed Anakin and Padme to be together ( :eew ) He still would have fallen to the dark side. 'Cause he'd still want to "save her.' The Jedi stance on attachment is hard to swallow, because at times it seems stupid, and like no one ever listens to it. But the galaxy really didn't need more Darth Vaders.
The thing is, I always felt in JQ that Yoda didn't hate Anni, he was just not in favor of teaching him. Once Obi-Wan started teaching him, it was like, a why bother being against reality argument. I think most of the Anakin hate from the council came from Mace. (Especially in Episode III.) Yoda was worried about Anakin's future, but I don't think he was on his mind so much that he wanted to second guess his every decision. (Though if the reason he wanted to break them up was to save us from them, then bless Yoda's little green heart. :P ) Edit: Does anyone outside the Star Wars Universe actually drink Brandy? |
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| LuvEwan | Dec 18 2008, 11:47 PM Post #22 |
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I didn't read Jedi Quest. I can't remember why. Maybe cuz Qui-Gon wasn't in it. I agree that he knew he couldn't change the situation as far as Anakin being trained, but he isn't into the prophecy the way other people were---especially if he thinks Obi-Wan is just as important to the Force as the Chosen One. I do wish we would've got to see Anakin reunite with Obi-Wan after the hell of Zigoola, and maybe talk to him about it, but that's what fanfic is for. ***you know what we've been talking about in Spamville tonight and you wonder if anyone drinks Brandy anymore! Obviously I'm drunk off my butt!** |
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| Perky McSkittles | Dec 18 2008, 11:49 PM Post #23 |
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I hope that means you are writing it LE. I look forward to reading it. Will Ahsoka be in it? I can't wait! Yay LE! :clap: :P I hope there are follow up novels to this one, cause I really liked it. It bridges the gap between the Clone Wars movie and the TV series. (Which you should all watch. :P ) Edit: Drunk on brandy though? Honestly? Not beer or vodka or wine, but Brandy? :eew |
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| LuvEwan | Dec 18 2008, 11:59 PM Post #24 |
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Of course Ahoska will be in it! She'll be the main character! Here's an excerpt: "Gee Obi-Wan," Anakin said softly, "I'm sure sorry you went crazy and nearly went to the Darkside and bonded with Bail but didn't even get his number." "Thank you, my former Padawan," Obi-Wan patted his arm, "And by the way, I've been meaning to tell you some of my deepest thoughts, here goes noth---" "Hey Skyguy! What's up Obi-Wack?! I just wanted to let you know that I solved the mystery of the Sith and cartwheeled the whole way here and redecorated the Council Chambers and can we go on a mission now?" "Ahsoka! Or, um, Snips! Don't interrupt!" Anakin looked from his apprentice to his one-time Master, "Now what were you saying, Obi----No, Obi-Wan put down that lightsaber!!! She's only a child!" No, not brandy. Iced tea, actually. :P |
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| Perky McSkittles | Dec 19 2008, 12:06 AM Post #25 |
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:lolabove :rofl: Just so you know, I did almost literally fell out of my chair while reading that. (Really.) :P You have no idea how happy I'll be if you actually write that into a story. It would be the most incredible thing in a long time. You should consider it. (Obi-Wan is just jealous that Anakin's Padawan is just so perfect in every way. He also wishes that Anakin called him a cool name like "Snips" so he could have called Anakin "Skyguy." (Obi-Wan had that name in his head years ago. Before that it was "Skyboy" and then to "Skypreteen" Followed by "Skysulkyguy" and finally just regular "Skyguy." It is a shame he never got to use them outside of his head. :P ) |
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| LuvEwan | Dec 19 2008, 12:09 AM Post #26 |
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I am going to call everyone I see tomorrow "Skypreteen". Everyone. :lol: |
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| Perky McSkittles | Dec 19 2008, 12:14 AM Post #27 |
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Everyone but me, I hope. I did think of the name, after all.
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| LuvEwan | Dec 19 2008, 12:16 AM Post #28 |
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You can be Skybubble! :bounce |
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| Perky McSkittles | Dec 19 2008, 12:19 AM Post #29 |
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LE thinks I look like this. Is it accurate? ...Yes
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Don't say that! Red might change my name!
:P I should go to bed. But I think I will read some more Wild Space before I fall asleep. Once you start, you just can't stop! Edit: Why does no one but the Jedi and Padme know what the sith are? Don;t they have history of the Great Hyperspace War and other conflicts? Do they not have a Wikipedia on the holonet? Honestly? |
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| jeepgirl | Dec 19 2008, 04:51 AM Post #30 |
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Where's My Drool Bucket???
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Well, maybe Yoda had force induced PMS??? I really don't know... I had problems with Yoda in this one.. He seemed really crotchety... Maybe Dooku did turn him all anti-Padawan/Master attachment... I'd never thought of it that way... What's wrong with brandy??? Though Vodka and Wine sound more appealing...
He can't be responsible for those trees... that was the fault of evil Sith machinations... And you're right... he is pretty, so he can have no guilt... cause that could cause frown lines... Maybe somebody should start the absolutely absurd Ashoka round robbin... Maybe she's the chosen one... (She could be on e ofthe few Jedi who escape Order 66 that we just don't know about yet...) That could be fun... |
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| LuvEwan | Dec 19 2008, 10:55 AM Post #31 |
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pgs 30-33 ...."If you do love Anakin, you must let him go. He can't love you and be a Jedi. And he was born to be a Jedi. He has a destiny greater than you or I can imagine. If he is not free to pursue it, a great many people may pay a dreadful price. Is that what you want?" She blinked rapidly, banishing tears. "And do you love him so little you would have him condemned to a lifetime of loneliness, all in the name of some prophecy not a one of your precious Jedi Council can say for certain is true?" Again, Obi-Wan stood, and this time walked away. "If I did not...love...him, he said, his voice unsteady, his back turned, "I would not be here now." "Then I think you and I define love very differently. I will never do anything to hurt Anakin. Can you say the same, Obi-Wan?" He swung around, his eyes blazing. "That's a stupid, childish thing to say!" ... "Let Anakin escort me home to Naboo. Saying good-bye is going to be difficult. I'd like our parting to be private. Please, Obi-Wan," she added, seeing his reluctance, "You owe me that much." Hmmmmmm.......What do you guys think of this? Does Padme know more about love than Obi-Wan? Does Obi-Wan owe Padme anything? I must admit the first time I read this actual fight, my jaw went slack. |
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| Perky McSkittles | Dec 19 2008, 11:05 AM Post #32 |
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My jaw didn't go slack, LE, but my eyes widened considerably.
:P Padme strikes me as the type who would read lots and lots or Romance novels, well when not pretending to be an important senator. So she might know more about love then Obi-Wan, but I think Obi-Wan has more experience. But I think Obi-Wan relates to Padme here too much. He sees poor Young Anakin and Padme much like Siri and himself back in the day when they had to choose between the Jedi and each other. (The galaxy thanks you for making the right choice Obi-Wan.) To think that Obi-Wan owes Padme anything is a bit of a stretch, but he is a Jedi and she is a Senator, so maybe that has something to do with it, I dunno. Maybe he owes her for forcing Anakin to be with her in the first place? She had to put up with a lot of crappy dialogue, I guess that is Obi's fault... |
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| LuvEwan | Dec 19 2008, 11:18 AM Post #33 |
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I think Obi-Wan's experience with love (if we're going off the movies alone) is different than Padme's. Padme's love may be unconditional, but it is not a selfless love. I kind of thought she got delusional in ROTS---she really wants the Star Wars equivalent to the white picket fence deal. Plus, Padme and Anakin aren't really around each other enough to be a real couple in some ways. It's like repeated honeymoons and somewhere along the way they develop this idea about star-crossed lovers fighting against the universe. But I think Obi-Wan loves Anakin in a selfless way because he does not lie to Anakin to protect his feelings, and does what he thinks is best for Anakin, even if it means Anakin will hate him for it. I don't really get the 'owing Padme' part. Was Obi-Wan the person who assigned Anakin the mission to protect Padme? |
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| Perky McSkittles | Dec 19 2008, 11:27 AM Post #34 |
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I don't know if Obi-Wan was the one who assigned him, but I imagine as Anakin's master it was his prerogative on weather he could go or not. Solo missions are a big deal for Padawans...
I agree. I bet Obi-Wan would go as far as slicing off his remaining appendages and leaving him to burn in a pit of lava because he loves Anakin so much. :P Honestly though, look at what he said after the duel to Anakin: "You were my brother, Anakin...I loved you..." Right there dying was the best thing for Anakin and Obi-Wan knew it. It figures that Anakin couldn't even do that right. Always making poor Obi-Wan look the fool. |
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| jeepgirl | Dec 19 2008, 11:52 AM Post #35 |
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:rotflol: OK... Almost spewed Dr Pepper over that one... Anyway, I don't know that Obi-Wan thinks he owes Padme anything... I just still go with the idea that he wants Anakin to be happy... Anakin wasn't the typical Padawan... we all know that... I think if Obi-Wan had known just how far Anakin had taken the relationship... well, I don't know that Anakin's feeling would have mattered to him then... But, he might still have protected him... we'll never know. We don't know what she might have muttered to Obi-Wan on the way to wear Obi and Bail were in RotS... Don't know how much he overheard from the ramp on Padme's ship before they dueled... I can see how he saw Padme and Anakin's relationship as a mirror of his and Siri's... how could he not? I think Padme is a little bit whiny here and agree that she got delusional with wanting the white picket fence deal (nice analogy)... But, we see Obi-Wan bending the rules for Anakin in this book (I'd have to rewatch the episode to check there) when he tells him to find Artoo but doesn't go to the Council with the information... Is this because of his attachment issue as Yoda put it? (Well, he didn't put it that way but you know what I mean) And now I want to write a fic about Padme sneaking around reading Romance novels while in her little Senate pod... darn plot bunnies... |
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| Perky McSkittles | Dec 19 2008, 05:04 PM Post #36 |
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~Bail on Page 293 :lol: Thats not the only thing she is queen of... :P Edit: I finished and the biggest plot hole for me was the fact that no one knew what the Sith were, other then the Jedi. You'd think they would have, you know, pictures and videos from the New Sith Wars... Hell, even the Great Hyperspace War... They say that once you put a picture on the internet it is never gone and never will be even if you delete it. Does that mean our internets pawns theirs? We know what people were doing in Rome 2000 years ago because of old books and stuff... They fought countless battles against the Sith and no one noticed? No one remembers the devastation of countless worlds? The deaths of trillions of sentients? It kind of makes me sad that no one remembers the history, but I guess the Jedi just did a good job hiding it. |
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| Allelujah | Dec 19 2008, 08:54 PM Post #37 |
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I was under the impression that she said that merely to keep the lie going. She had just agreed verbally to stop seeing Anakin, knowing it was a lie and she had no intention to leave her husband. She wanted to make Obi-Wan believe she meant it so she said that perhaps to play on the guilt he was feeling for asking it of her. |
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| Perky McSkittles | Dec 19 2008, 09:28 PM Post #38 |
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Wow thats cynical. But you are probably right, Padme is the devil after all. Its her fault that Anakin goes to the dark side. Too bad she didn't listen to Obi-Wan when he told her to keep her overly-fancy dresses on. :rolleyes: |
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| LuvEwan | Dec 19 2008, 11:24 PM Post #39 |
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"LE, you want me to what?"
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And now for Bail n' Obi's Bickering Corner! In today's fun-filled episode: page 190-191 Our heroes Bail n' Obi are, um, discussing the cruel murder of Bail's relative and the idea of justice versus vengeance. "Just as a matter of interest, Master Kenobi...what happened to the Sith that murdered your Master?" Obi-Wan took a deep breath. Let it out, very slowly. "I believe you know perfectly well, Senator." Organa pretended to think. Pretended amazement. "Oh yes! That's right. Padme said. You killed him." A thin, knife edges smile. "But you're not an agent of vengeance, or anything." He said nothing to that. There were no words. Oh those two kooky guys! :buddies This presents a conundrum: usually, I would automatically say Obi-Wan is right because he's pretty, but Bail is pretty, too. I am confused. |
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| Draconus | Dec 20 2008, 05:29 AM Post #40 |
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They are both pretty, LE. I can see why you'd be confused!
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| jeepgirl | Dec 21 2008, 09:20 AM Post #41 |
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Where's My Drool Bucket???
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Well, they're probably not that pretty by the end of that book... but I'm sure they cleaned up well... I did like how Bail was kind of going at Obi-Wan there... not really going at him, but it was a good way of making that point... They're both clever, pretty boys... |
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| Allelujah | Dec 22 2008, 10:05 AM Post #42 |
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I loved the last part as they verbally fought. Bail brought up some really great points about the Jedi and the sometimes contradictory mantra they preach and live by. In some ways it is as if the Jedi hold themselves above the average being. I think it was good for Obi to be faced with those questions head on. |
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| jeepgirl | Dec 22 2008, 10:47 AM Post #43 |
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Where's My Drool Bucket???
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I liked this bit and it reminds me of what you're saying: Bail is talking to Obi-Wan about the Sith being on Zigoola: Basically Bail is thinking Obi-Wan knows who or where the Sith are... and he's ticked off that Obi won't tell him... Bail tells Obi he wants to know everything and gets this: "You'll what?" he said, suddenly so tired. "Send me to be withough my supper? Must I remind you again, Senator? I am not - I have never been - answerable to you." "Oh yes, that's right," Organa retorted, seething. "You're answerable to Master Yoda and the Jedi Council. And who are they answerable to? Themselves? How convenient!" I think it's good that Bail points this out... Perhaps if the Jedi weren't held quite as loftily as they were...Palypy couldn't have condemned them so successfully... I think Bail had a point there... |
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| Haro | Dec 30 2008, 05:20 PM Post #44 |
Dreams of Butterflies
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:o Finally! Weeks after everyone else, I am finally finished with Wild Space. I have to say that I really enjoyed it and it definitely ranks up there with the ROTS novelization. |
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| Perky McSkittles | Dec 30 2008, 07:28 PM Post #45 |
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LE thinks I look like this. Is it accurate? ...Yes
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Wow. You are slow.
:P I think it was a good one as well, flawed as all books are, but a good one in the end. So, did anyone like Padme in the book? :P |
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| jeepgirl | Dec 30 2008, 09:04 PM Post #46 |
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Where's My Drool Bucket???
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Well, her dialogue might have been a little bit better than it was in Sith... Maybe? I don't usually care for much of the Padme stuff anyways... I did kind of like the stuff where she's trying to get in to see Anakin and gets dissed... It made me laugh and I could see here being sort of that way... |
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| Haro | Jan 1 2009, 02:34 PM Post #47 |
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Dreams of Butterflies
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I wanted to scream by the end every time I read "He pulled a face." What the hell does that mean anyway? Outside that, I really loved seeing the Jedi from an outsider's POV. |
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| Perky McSkittles | Jan 1 2009, 02:44 PM Post #48 |
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LE thinks I look like this. Is it accurate? ...Yes
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:lol: I think its a way to say made a face, at least thats how I read it, but I did noticed that phrase a few times too. If they make an episode of the TV show about this book, would anyone here, besides me, watch it? :P |
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| Haro | Jan 1 2009, 02:49 PM Post #49 |
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Dreams of Butterflies
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I keep hoping CN will have a marathon to catch up. I have missed so many episodes. |
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| Perky McSkittles | Jan 1 2009, 04:24 PM Post #50 |
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LE thinks I look like this. Is it accurate? ...Yes
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This might have been mentioned, but a lot of what happened when Obi-Wan was talking to Anakin and the scenes about Anakin were mostly episodes. Obi-Was was unfortunately absent from many episodes. He might have been in three or four so far? Maybe more by holonet, and several times in the book, like when Anakin is talking to Obi-Wan about having lost R2, it is directly from the show. So it was cool to see that. |
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