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| zuncompany | Apr 24 2006, 10:18 AM Post #16 |
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I can SO understand her. Its HARD on the mom's body. I am used to it at this point cause I have been on both ED and TED for so long. Also the guilt if you make a tiny mistake. the thought of not knowing how long it will go on can do huge psychological things to a person. Most docs recommend a min six months before trying things again, some not for a year. Its hard! |
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| hallie_ari_mom | Apr 24 2006, 11:08 AM Post #17 |
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It's so hard. This morning she went shopping for "better" foods to see if it helps. Back to the foods she ate while pregnant. The baby, btw, is almost 6 weeks and has gained ~3lbs already. It's all so hard! I wish they were born with signs... allergic to this and that, feed me this!!! Barbie |
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| zuncompany | Apr 24 2006, 11:38 AM Post #18 |
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WOW... the baby is thriving thank g-d. I wish my boys had gained like that. weight checks are annoying! |
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| chavamom | Apr 24 2006, 11:49 AM Post #19 |
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I tend to agree with chavelamomma. |
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| hallie_ari_mom | Apr 24 2006, 11:56 AM Post #20 |
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This kid looks great, B"H. Just about 10 lbs. It's the spitting up and colic that she is worried about. Spitting up like 1/4 of what she gave him each time, not regular spitting up. But he's gaining. Her older son was 18 lbs and 3 mo and I think this child is going to be the same, but she's still worried. She couldn't eat dairy or soy while preg. It makes me a bit nervous because with my daughter, I could eat anything and she has no allergies. This time, I'm highly food sensitive with sugar, some dairy, coloring and preservatives, artificial coloring. I can't eat anything with Red #40 or MSG. I have to read everything and be extra careful. Will this child have these problems? I don't look to give any Red dye #40 or MSG but sugar and dairy.... Barbie |
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| zuncompany | Apr 24 2006, 12:08 PM Post #21 |
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Barbie- if she can handle the diet, than she should go for it cause food allergy wise nursing is better if you can follow the diet. colic and spitting up doesn't mean necc. its a food allergy either. Usually you will see gaining and other issues. 18lbs is a LOT at 3 months- a LOT. She could just have a spitter. Also I would not worry about what you could or couldn't eat while preg. I don't really understand what you mean by you can't eat these things. Do you have a reaction? When preg your own body might react to things cause allergies in the mom can be enhanced when preg. doesn't necc. have any connection to the baby. With Zu I noticed if I ate dairy when preg he was extra wild inside. He was a bit insensitive to dairy when he was little but grew out of it. By almost three he can eat any dairy. Tev who is my super sensitive baby I ate everything with... my allergies were amazing during the time and I never noticed any weird reactions to foods inside. And look where we are. |
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| realeez | Apr 24 2006, 12:12 PM Post #22 |
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My 2nd ds spit up tons until he was a year. It never bothered him & he gained weight nicely so we never did anything about it. Also, what looks like a ton of milk to spit up may not be so much - try spilling a TBSP of milk on your table - you'd think you spilled a whole cup! |
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| Chavelamomela | Apr 24 2006, 12:25 PM Post #23 |
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thanks - I thought I would get major flack for posting that. I know that we're all into "acceptance of people's choices" and all, but I really think that there's just too much "acceptance" and not enough encouragement and education. When it comes to other cultures, where breastfeeding is the norm, not the exception, women know all about breastfeeding, and have a natural support group. But in our society, where women are preassured or encouraged to "just give the kid a bottle" or to "supplement" with formula, it's actually doing a major disservice to the moms and babies. A baby who has allergies, and is breastfed, will have fewer problems. Yes, an elimination diet is hard, but what you do is you re-introduce foods slowly, one at a time, so you can isolate the root of the problem. Once you figure out which foods are problematic, (let's assume dairy & wheat, for example), you can adjust your diet to include other foods and you CAN adapt. Of course, as "supportive" women, we praise this mom for giving up, and tell her "she's doing the right thing" Sorry for my cynicism, I just feel that we as a society give up too easily and justify our non-optimal choices to make ourselves feel good. |
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| zuncompany | Apr 24 2006, 12:44 PM Post #24 |
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I understand your thoughts and I think in general yes and agree. I think a lot of people don't have a clue how HARD ED and TED are though and they aren't as quick as people seem to think. It is ALSO super hard on mom's body and sometimes it isn't worth it. I have seen women get very very ill on the diets. I got LOADS of flack when Tev stopped nursing cause I didn't push him to continue and allowed him to wean when he was 13 months old. At that point I had been on ED since he was tiny and TED for 8 or 9 months. My body was getting SICK! Yes, it is better for baby to continue nursing allergy wise BUT if mommy is going to cheat than it isn't actually better. I spent plenty of time thinking how could a mom with a FA kid not nurse until I realized how it really isn't as easy as it seems. The FA world isn't easy ever but sometimes for a mom being able to have that little bit of milk when your milk allergic kid is in bed means a lot or be able when they are out to grab a coke. I must have eatten 4 challahs straight without breathing the second tev was weaned completely. I lived on omletes for like a month. For me I couldn't imagine not doing TED for my kids... but I totally understand someone not being able to do it. |
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| realeez | Apr 24 2006, 12:57 PM Post #25 |
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sara, is FA - fatal allergy? |
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| zuncompany | Apr 24 2006, 01:25 PM Post #26 |
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sorry- FA- food allergies, SA- season allergies, EA- enviromental allergies. |
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| chavamom | Apr 24 2006, 01:50 PM Post #27 |
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Is she making this decision (that the kid is allergic) alone? It sounds like this kids issues are *possibly* only milk and soy if that. That would not require TED, just eliminating milk and soy - not difficult. A spitter does not equal an allergic kid. She will probably get more 'spit' with formula than breastmilk. It sounds to me like this is someone who is just 'done' and is looking for a reason to justify it mentally. I have a friend from college who runs the 'specialfrummoms' list (group for orthodox moms with babies with special needs) who has done the TED diet for a few kids. She is a great resource if anyone wants her contact info. |
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| zuncompany | Apr 24 2006, 01:54 PM Post #28 |
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ooh chava- I would love that info! Just what I need... sometimes it can be so hard and so many of the regular FA stuff just doesn't get koshrus. |
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| Chavelamomela | Apr 24 2006, 03:18 PM Post #29 |
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aishes chayil
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See, that's the point, you were flexible, and willing to do it for your kid. Also, you weaned at 13 months, not 3 months!!! See, someone who cannot drink milk can find alternatives - soy milk, rice milk, almond milk are all decent substitutions. If she's giving up on nursing her kid for one glass of milk a day, I think she should really try (hard!) to work with alternatives and not give in so easily. I find people give up way too soon without looking at alternatives and realizing that it CAN be done. Okay, I speak from experience regarding TED. I did it - no, not when I was nursing (though I seriously reduced what things I ate, especially at the gassy beginning...). When I was a teenager, i was having severe gastric distress, and i eliminated EVERYTHING from my diet. I was able to reintroduce foods slowly, and discovered what the cause was. So I know. It's not easy, but it CAN be done. |
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| zuncompany | Apr 24 2006, 03:42 PM Post #30 |
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I think one needs to remember that doing TED while nursing and at other times is different. VERY different actually. I think the hardest part was knowing one little slip up and my child could react. Not me, but my baby. The second hardest part was I was NOT doing it for me. Yet, though it was not for me- I was the one getting sick. Its hard enough on a reg. diet getting good calories in and making sure you eat enough and your milk isn't effected. Than to add in that you can't eat most food. I know women who mamish only had to eliminate dairy and they had problems. everyone is different. Our bodies all handle cutting out foods differently. The best thing to do is contact a nutricientist who can sit with you and make sure you are getting what you need. My big worry was iron. I have low iron as is and to cut out things like beef for me is VERY hard! vitamins aren't always the answer either. Sometimes there is something in it that the baby will react to. I finally had to tell them at 7 months that if they didn't let me add back in an iron pill or something I would quit nursing cause I couldn't function. Mom needs to be able to function. What one sees as giving in, is another's way of saying my body can't handle this and I can't be a good parent like this. My body compared to a LOT handled the diet well and I did get sick on it. When you can eat 5 foods- thats not always the right thing for mom. |
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