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Have you heard this idea before?
Topic Started: Jul 12 2006, 08:39 PM (234 Views)
Karapooz
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I was reading Brazelton's book on feeding children. He wrote that in order to prevent sore nipples, feed the baby 2-3 minutes at a time for the first day or two. Then for a couple of days do 5 minute feedings. Express milk after each time for stimulation.
Then in a week go to 10 mins and then 20.

I don't know what to think- I think a baby should nurse until he wants to stop. But then again, it makes sense not to be in such agony if you can avoid it.
In the beginning I would sit with G, ready to nurse, and I couldn't bring myself to do it. I would have to gather up courage to do such a painful thing to myself, while G got more and more worked up till the point of hysteria that I wasn't giving him his food.
Interesting to think - what if I could've avoided it?
But is it fair to limit nursing time for newborns?
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zuncompany
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that doesn't sound good for your milk supply AT ALL!
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Karapooz
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He recommends expressing after each feeding, and to feed often. Just giving a small rest for the nipples prevents soreness.
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zuncompany
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expressing will not stimulate the right places as well as your child. As a result your milk will not come in as fast nor will it be as much. supply and demand.
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realeez
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someone told me to nurse 2-3 minutes on each side and then keep switching back and forth until the baby had enough. this way i wouldn't get so sore. it wasn't so practical so i didn't do it.
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I think, for me, the major issue the first few days was not sore nipples, but rather engorgement. i was SOOO uncomfortable with it. I don't recall having been sore though, bah.
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Its Me
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:Blah
Edited by Its Me, Feb 1 2009, 02:36 PM.
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rikal
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I am light skinned and sensitive. There were times I had sore nipples but not to the point that I would hesitate to nurse. I learned to avoid it like this:

1. Make sure the baby doesn't grab just the tip. He should get as much in his mouth as is comfortable for him.
2. Don't wash often with water or anything that causes dryness. Putting on creams and then having to take them off with water to nurse is very counter productive.
3. I was also told to prepare the nipples starting before birth w/vitamin e and such. I was too lazy.

The important thing is to avoid anything that dries the skin. It passes as the baby learns to suck properly.

See this.
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Kmelion
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So... with this suggested method, you end up nursing all day??

The problem with alternating breast feeding with bottles is that the sucking is different. So the baby will never learn to properly nurse and it may end up backfiring - the baby will prefer the bottle and you'll be stuck having to express for all the feedings.
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DesignMommy
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The other really big problem with thay suggestion is that after only 2 or 3 minutes, it is unlikely that the baby will get the hind mil, which has the fat and is what keeps the babies full. Getting only hindmilk can cause a baby to be erxtremely fussy and C"V not gain enough weight. A better suggestion (recc'd by the La Leche League) is to only nurse one side per feeding b/c then you build up your supply and make sure that the baby gets both fore and hind milk.
I had horribly sore nipples with both my kidddies, but after 2 or 3 months it got better...
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realeez
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re: hindmilk
from Jack Newman


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“But everybody says he needs the hindmilk,” Karen points out.

“The hindmilk, the schmind milk,” Newman replies. “Sometimes I wish we’d never heard of hindmilk.” In the effortfully patient tone of someone who spends much time clarifying misconceptions, Newman tells her not to stress about the higher-fat milk that comes toward the end of a feeding. All breastmilk has fat content, he explains, so do what works. “If the baby feeds better by your putting him to the same side an hour later, OK. If not, fine, put him to the other side,” he says.


http://www.todaysparent.com/pregnancybirth...643_4768&page=5
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U Tarzan Me Jane
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lansinoh cream after every feeding! It doesn't need to be washed off. I also put it on before I shower! its already packed in my birth bag. It is worth every penny! :) B)
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lansinoh cream after every feeding! It doesn't need to be washed off. I also put it on before I shower! its already packed in my birth bag. It is worth every penny!

ditto!
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DesignMommy
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[As a particular feeding progresses, fat content increases, milk volume and flow decrease, and milk synthesis speeds up. Because every baby varies in the amount of time it takes him to receive his fill of the higher-fat milk at the end of the feeding, it is important not to switch breasts while baby is actively nursing.]

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Every baby is different, so every Mom has to do what works for their baby!
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Karapooz
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Ahhh, lansinoh! I think I spent over $30 on this miracle cream!
Kmelion: I don't think he means to feed the baby the expressed milk, just to store it for later.
Also, I'm trying to weigh nursing all day against having terribly sore and BLEEDING nipples. So bad that your baby is spitting up your blood. I think nursing all day wins, IF it really prevents sore nipples.
Now, I think that for a week, the baby can do perfectly well without hindmilk. Especially since the real milk doesn't come in for about 1/2 a week.
But what makes me uncomfortable is stopping the baby from nursing when he's in the process.

I think that what mede it really bad for me is this- I nursed Gedalya a few minutes after he was born. He nursed for 3 or 4 minutes and then stopped breathing and turned blue. It was horrible. They took him away to NICU for the day and fed him formula bottles. When he came back to me, he couldn't latch on properly no matter what I did.
I know it was those bottles, bec the initial nursing was so comfortable and natural. Then it got monstrous.
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