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Topic Started: Jul 12 2006, 08:39 PM (233 Views)
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aishes chayil
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Karapooz
Jul 13 2006, 09:05 PM
I think that what mede it really bad for me is this- I nursed Gedalya a few minutes after he was born. He nursed for 3 or 4 minutes and then stopped breathing and turned blue. It was horrible. They took him away to NICU for the day and fed him formula bottles. When he came back to me, he couldn't latch on properly no matter what I did.
I know it was those bottles, bec the initial nursing was so comfortable and natural. Then it got monstrous.

That must have been so hard for you! Yasher Koach for carrying on w/ the nursing. My first didn't turn blue at first but was called a failure to thrive..and i quit very soon..kudu's to you for carrying on!!! :clap
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Karapooz
Jul 12 2006, 08:39 PM
I was reading Brazelton's book on feeding children. He wrote that in order to prevent sore nipples, feed the baby 2-3 minutes at a time for the first day or two. Then for a couple of days do 5 minute feedings. Express milk after each time for stimulation.
Then in a week go to 10 mins and then 20.


That is the most insane advice I've heard. It's nothing new, but THOROUGHLY oudated.

Feel free to ignore it. Better yet, PLEASE DO ignore it.

Besides the fact that it does nothing to avoid sore nipples, it creates the problem of a hungry baby, and makes it harder for the milk to come in. Hand expressing does not get anywhere as much as a vigorous nursing, and pumping is often HARDER on the nipples than nursing, especially if you have any issue with the fit.

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I don't know what to think- I think a baby should nurse until he wants to stop. But then again, it makes sense not to be in such agony if you can avoid it.

Of course, but that's not the way to do it. The issue is not really fairness, but effectiveness and usefulness. It just doesn't really work well, so why bother.

What does work? Well, it depends on the problem. Did you have thrush? That can cause AGONY of the sort you describe. Were you holding him in a good (for you and him) hold? Did he have latch problems? Those can be helped by a good lactation consultant. Some times something as simple as Lanolin, vitamin e or even aloe (depending on the cause) can be immensely useful.

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Karapooz
Jul 12 2006, 08:59 PM
He recommends expressing after each feeding, and to feed often. Just giving a small rest for the nipples prevents soreness.

As I noted, it doesn't work. Expressing doesn't give you anywhere near as much stimulation, unless you use a good electrical pump, which isn't giving your nipples much of a rest.
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Karapooz
Jul 13 2006, 09:05 PM
I think that what mede it really bad for me is this- I nursed Gedalya a few minutes after he was born. He nursed for 3 or 4 minutes and then stopped breathing and turned blue. It was horrible. They took him away to NICU for the day and fed him formula bottles. When he came back to me, he couldn't latch on properly no matter what I did.
I know it was those bottles, bec the initial nursing was so comfortable and natural. Then it got monstrous.

It's a shame you didn't have access to a good lactation consultant who could have helped you with that. That's horrible, but I this technique doesn't really address the issue. There is no way you can "toughen" your nipple enough to withstand the effects of a really bad latch. The only solution is to retrain the baby, and short feedings do not help there.

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a :hugs 4 u & Gedalia.
How is it going?
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Karapooz
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It's loads better. thanks for asking!
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