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| Kosher technicalities: how many sets of kitchen utensils do you have? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 17 2009, 10:56 AM (1,363 Views) | |
| LittleL | Apr 17 2009, 10:56 AM Post #1 |
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Hi all. I've been thinking about a kosher question for a while. My parents don't keep kosher and didn't teach me much, but I intend to do so once I leave the nest after this summer. :yum So I've been thinking a lot and taking notes of what kinds of pans and utensils I actually like to use and what for, trying to make a guess of what I'll need. I guess we all have some funny cooking-thingies just lying around there without being used, I'll try not to buy any of those. ;) My question for you is: How many sets of utensils/dishware/pots&pans do you actually have? I realize there's a minimum of one set for miklig and one for fleischig so 2 seems to be very common. But I have come to wonder: isn't it easier to have one parve too? I mean, if you make something parve in a milkig pan it really isn't parve is it? So if you have to have multiple sets anyway, one could as well be parve. How do you do this? And how do you keep them apart. Colour coding? DIfferent designs? I'd love to hear a bit about your system! Love, yaya Lin |
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| lilac7 | Apr 17 2009, 11:13 AM Post #2 |
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i would love to hear about this too! |
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| U Tarzan Me Jane | Apr 17 2009, 11:23 AM Post #3 |
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I have two sets, and a few pieces that are pareve (my food processor) If I want something to use with both milk and meat I'll cook in a disposable pan, using plastic utensils if necessary. It is possible for something to be totally pareve while cooked in a meat or dairy pan, but there are specific circumstances. In most cases, cooking something in a clean pan whether it is meat or dairy, the food will be pareve, but should not be eaten with food that is dairy if it was cooked in a meat pot, or meat ood if it was cooked in a dairy pot. But, you would not need to wait between foods as you would after eating food that is meat or dairy. Practical example, I cook macaroni in a clean meat pot. I can eat the macaroni, but not with cheese or a glass of milk. But after i finish the macaroni, I wash my mouth out with a drink and can eat as much cheese as I please. There is no need to wait 6 hours, as I would have to do if I ate chicken or meat. |
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| lilac7 | Apr 17 2009, 11:31 AM Post #4 |
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So that means you have to know in advance how you'll be eating the food? It seems hard For example if I make macaronni, I might eat them with cheese, but next day eat them with a piece of meat Or if I make salad (parve) I can serve it with dinner that has meat, but next day might eat it with dairy food So basically you have to either cook parve food in parve dishes or know in advance how you will use it? |
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| LittleL | Apr 17 2009, 11:38 AM Post #5 |
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Disposables, what a great idea! :) Your macaroni example was very good. :hi5 Still, that's why I consider maybe having one parve set for that pasta? Especially if you want to put sth in the freezer or get some leftovers for the next day which maybe you'd like to combine in a different way. Seems I've still got a lot to learn. :huh |
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| lilac7 | Apr 17 2009, 11:41 AM Post #6 |
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what about dishwasher - do you have to wash parve dishes by hand because they can't go with either meat or dairy in the same dishwasher? |
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| LittleL | Apr 17 2009, 11:42 AM Post #7 |
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Lilac, seems you and I think the same way about this, I love making huuuuge batches of potato soup for example, fill up the freezer and then when I eat it some time later I'll add some grated cheese one day, another day some chicken and so on. So I'm almost decided on 3 sets... Any more wisdom from you lovely ladies here? :) |
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| Reverse Karma | Apr 17 2009, 11:42 AM Post #8 |
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You need to know what you're cooking. I didn't go out and buy 6 of anything(meat, dairy, pareve; meat pasover, dairy pasover, pareve passover.) I don't want anylthing the same for meat and dairy, anyway, as I don't want to mix them up. For example, I get metal spatulas for meat, plain black plastic for pareve, whereas I buy the brightest colors I can find for dairy. did that help at all ? |
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| LittleL | Apr 17 2009, 11:53 AM Post #9 |
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I didn't even know about the particular passover thing... :dontknow Good thing I wont have my own kitchen yet for a while... :ha |
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| zuncompany | Apr 17 2009, 12:59 PM Post #10 |
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So I had to say 1 cause honestly, we keep our kitchen meat completely. My daughter is ana. to dairy so dairy is a treat in our house. Every once in a while we get dairy pizza from the pizza shop and eat it on disposables or cold cheese cut with plastics on plastic plates. Honestly now though if I make a pot of noodles they are gone before I could consider using them for more than one thing. LOL If I really want cheese though I might fake myself by using pareve cheese and melt it on the noodles. Not everyone likes it but I have found ways in which I can eat it. For my kids its a no biggie cause the little one has never had real cheese and the boys have always called it pareve cheese or girl cheese (cause of this sister) and don't think of it tasting like dairy cheese but rather having its own taste. |
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| npl | Apr 17 2009, 01:11 PM Post #11 |
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I have 2 full sets (not counting Pesach) - 1 dairy, 1 meat. I also recently was given a set of dishes for shabbos (just the dishes). I have a few things for Parev - baking stuff, a pot for making boiled eggs, stuff for putting out party food, like bowls and plates, and a sharp knife and cutting board. I bought a really cheap set of pots from IKEA (the 3 for $12 set) for Pesach milchigs, but I didn't use them, so I'll keep them for parev, too, so I can cook dried beans, etc and melt chocolate for desserts. I have different things for dairy and meat, though, because of what I make for each, and most of what I have I bought bit-by-bit, as I found that I really needed it. |
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| Estie | Apr 17 2009, 03:17 PM Post #12 |
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I have 3 sets of pots for weekday and a little less than that for Passover That is I have a full meat set for both weekday and passover I have several parve pots and lots of pyrex etc for both milk I have the least - a set of pots for weekday but for passover I only have a 9 inch or so frying pan for cheese omelettes and that is it. but I don't have a full set of parve flatware, just cooking basics like a ladle, a few mixing spoons and spatulas. |
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| JRKmommy | Apr 17 2009, 06:35 PM Post #13 |
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Dishes: 1 nice set of china (got from my late grandmother) for meat 1 cheap set of dishes for dairy If you don't have much room, use disposable for Pesach. However, last year we bought cheap set of dishes in different colours for meat and milk for Pesach. Cutlery: Separate meat and milk sets, all metal. I kasher each set for Pesach. Make the patterns very different - for example, plain for one, more pattern for the other. Pots: Found deals on 2 separate sets of all-metal - for meat, the set has copper bottoms so I can tell them apart. All metal = can be kashered for Pesach. I also bought a HUGE soup pot (around 25 quarts), all metal, which I use for Pesach because I host the family Seders. No need to duplicate for dairy, because I just use it to make chicken stock. Pans: You can get nice big non-stick saute pans/woks in colors - red for meat, blue for dairy. For Pesach, I got a meat and a milk fry pan. For baking dishes, I used disposable foil for Pesach. If you bake, silicone stuff is great, and it also comes in red and blue. Cooking utensils: I use nylon ones with pink handles for meat, blue for dairy. I got cheaper sets in blue and red for Pesach last year. Small appliances: Kettles and urns, rice cooker and food chopper are parev. Blender is dairy, immersion blender is meat. Crock pots are meat. I found some great back-to-school color-coded stuff in Sept., aimed at college kids but very handy for kosher kitchens on a budget. |
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| Marion | Apr 18 2009, 12:24 PM Post #14 |
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I have a full set for dairy, a full set for meat. I have a few pots and lots of utensils, and even more cake tins that are pareve, but no pareve dishes or flatware. For Pesach I have meat, dairy, and my mixing bowls are pareve. I don't believe in disposables, unless I'm taking something to someone else's home and don't want to have to worry about getting something back. I only bake pareve because I never know what I'm serving it with (Shavuot cheesecake is the exception, and I have a single dairy baking dish for that, and mix by hand). Pasta I make "meat" or dairy, but I mix everything in together so I know if I was planning on meat sauce or cheese & tuna. In terms of cost, we were given 3 sets of pots, and several individual pots, when we got married. (I think the Sears' home sale was the week after we announced our engagement. And I already owned one set from my single days.) We registered for dishes & cutlery, and people contributed to our registry. We still don't really have fleishig dishes for Pesach, but we have enough for 4 adults and 2 kid-friendly plates. Hopefully we'll find dishes we like between now and next Pesach. Edited by Marion, Apr 18 2009, 12:25 PM.
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| Bas Melech | Apr 18 2009, 03:17 PM Post #15 |
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I chose both 2 sets and disposables only because although I have two sets of dishes (not counting the Shabbos dishes) we rarely actually use them for meals, rather we use the disposables. I have two sets of pots and other utensils/cutlery etc. My husband dislikes using disposables, so he's the one who uses the dishes more than anyone else. |
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