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| Marion | Oct 1 2009, 03:04 AM Post #16 |
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I spoke with the bus company. The melava says the kids are not allowed to eat on the bus and that she's very, very makpida on this. This was not in the morning, it was at 1:15, so the gannenet is not handing out nosh on the way to the bus. There is a bat sherut, but the saya'at says no one else deals with diapers, just her. I don't know who to believe, but I'm trying to reach the woman in charge of the shibutz in the ganim. I need some answers and today's the last day to get them. By the time they go back after Isru Chag everyone else will have forgotten about it. |
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| Jo :-) | Oct 1 2009, 05:02 AM Post #17 |
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Good luck sorting this out - I hope you get some decent answers! This sounds like an awful situation... :hugs |
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| U Tarzan Me Jane | Oct 1 2009, 09:27 AM Post #18 |
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sitting in filth for a 1/2 hour can traumatize anyone. You also have no idea what she said to him before after and during changing him. Also putting a child back into diapers can be Very upsetting.
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| mummy | Oct 1 2009, 10:36 PM Post #19 |
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THe idea that any child aged 3-5 will never have an accident is ludicrous. I have three kids, my oldest was day and night toilet trained by 2. My son was day trained at a bit over 2, but took a good year before he was fully dry day and night. My youngest is 3.5 and is toilet trained, but scatterbrained and still sometimes leaves it too late... All kids are different. IMO, if you are dealing with kids in this age group, you must be prepared for the odd nappy change. And you should deal with it in a gentle, reassuring manner. Judging by the woman's tone on the phone, I doubt Marion's son was gently taken aside and cleaned up. I wonder too what was said to him - I'd bet she was cranky, rough and told him off. Way to make one little accident a whole lot worse. One other thing - when my son changed Prep (first year of school here, he was 4.5 yo) after we moved to a new town, he regressed and actually pooped his pants twice. This was way out of the norm and the teachers gave us hell and I suspect him too. He was so embarassed and very confused, said he was told to raise his hand and then ask and then he could go, so he was always late. Teachers tell me they are free to go whenever - but why would my son come up with this elaborate sequence of instructions on his own??? In any case, he never settled into that class, he became very upset with school, said his teachers hated him and so on. They would tell him off and had obviously set in their heads that they didnt like him - he was 'difficult' and 'probably autistic or ADHD' he needs 'speech therapy' and an 'educational psychologist assessment'. Took him out and placed in him day school - teachers adore him, he shows no developmental, speech or any other issues. My point is that maybe this isnt a toilet training issue - maybe he is unhappy at the centre and this is just a symptom of his discomfort/unease? From my experience with my son, I'd do something asap and not run the risk of it developing into something worse. |
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| Marion | Oct 2 2009, 06:07 AM Post #20 |
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I spent all day on the phone yesterday and got nowhere fast. Ultimately I made it clear that if 3 full-time staff (even if one wasn't trained staff) couldn't deal with 9 3-year-olds, then perhaps the general array of "issues" in the classroom was too severe and therefore not the appropriate placement for a child who has ONE developmental issue (speech). Of course, it was the last day of school until a week Monday, so nothing's going to happen yet, and the woman who can ultimately move him is away until October 24th (and we already have a meeting with her scheduled for the 25h). So we have 2 weeks where we're stuck, but it gives me 2 weeks to further evaluate and then insist he's in the wrong spot. |
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| mummy | Oct 5 2009, 01:03 AM Post #21 |
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I guess all you can do is keep an eye on him, his behaviour and so on. Maybe you can gently ask him each afternoon how his day was and see what you can prise out of him in terms of how happy/comfy he is there? I know as a working mother its nigh on impossible, but any chance you can stop by unannounced one day just to see what goes on when they arent expecting you? As I said with my son - I had a feeling, and I ignored it and let myself be told by so-called professionals that it was my fault (home isnt stable because DH and I work irregular-ish hours!) and that it was DS's fault etc. No-one knows your child like you! |
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| 4hope | Oct 5 2009, 02:55 AM Post #22 |
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sending you hugs.... i have had my share of frustrating issues with ganim in israel.... don't have any words of wisdom for you, it's hard to find a good gan, i know. but am sending you and your child hugs and i really hope the meeting on 25 october will clear things up. |
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| Marion | Oct 5 2009, 05:28 AM Post #23 |
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Mummy, the issue is that DS CAN'T tell me if there's something funny going on. He doesn't have the vocabulary for it (speech delay, that's why he's in that gan). I'm taking it as positive that he's been waking up all week asking for the "autobus" so he can go to gan. But I honestly don't know if he's asking because he misses his "girlfriend" who's on his bus, or if he's missing the routine, or if he really likes gan. |
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| ElTam | Oct 5 2009, 09:31 PM Post #24 |
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I'm with mummy on accidents being normal for 3 to 5 year olds. My daughter, in pre-k and now in K, keeps a change of clothes at school, as do all the other kids. I know at least once i was pickiing her up last year and a boy who was in extended care had just had an accident. It's rare, yes, but it happens. Best case scenario (and I work from home), it would take me 20 minutes to get loaded up and drive over there. If my child was left to sit in dirty/wet clothes for that time, I would be fighting mad. |
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