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| Topic Started: Oct 27 2009, 02:43 AM (668 Views) | |
| rikal | Oct 27 2009, 02:43 AM Post #1 |
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Amazing I don't know these videos but computers are horrid for learning, They certainly cannot increase intelligence. I agree with the comment that mothers have a bull's eye on their backs as suckers. Convenience with a guilt soother - the perfect product. I am glad that they mention it not being good for 2 yr olds to sit in front of a screen. At my age it causes cataracts if too long. I am sorry that it didn't mention that the over stimulation can cause the child to not use the sechel he does have. When a child is "so excited" and is the first to know his ABC's few parents are aware of the cost. ANd they won't do the research because as one comment said, "I would have never been able to make dinner without them". |
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| Estie | Oct 27 2009, 04:18 AM Post #2 |
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I used to have a woman with triplets living on my block, and in the summer when I was off I would go to help out with feedings etc. Her parents and inlaws were upset that she didn't have these videos for them. It was very easy for me to find studies showing that babies shouldn't be in front of screens, so I printed one out for her to show the grandparents. End of story. They moved a few blocks away :( but they didn't get the videos and BH are doing well as 5 year olds today. |
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| U Tarzan Me Jane | Oct 27 2009, 09:29 AM Post #3 |
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I get the heebeegeebees from Baby Einstein. I never got it for my kids. I also (hen we had a tv) never let my kids watch unsupervised. So if I couldn't tolerate it, they could not watch it. Tellytubbies, Barney and Baby Einstien were all Banned here! Also kids under two should really not be watching TV. It leads to increased ADD. As does sesame street... |
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| Zeesachaya | Oct 27 2009, 09:56 AM Post #4 |
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I think the problem comes in when parents sit their children down in front of the television and a. use it as a babysitter and b. think it is somehow educating them. These children never learn how to entertain themselves and form an entertainment mindset wherein they expect nonstop visual stimulation. Warning - RANT COMING UP! It is sad how many children are unable to sit quietly and read. Many students of mine have absolutely no reading "habits" established and by the time they have reached high school it is like pulling teeth to get them to read a novel. Don't even get me started on all the kids who want to wear their ipods while they read...oy.... Yes, depending upon the music you are listening to, it can help block out distractions but most of these kids are listening to rap with a constant stream of words being shouted into their ear drums. How in the world could this help one concentrate better on the reading? |
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| zuncompany | Oct 27 2009, 11:09 AM Post #5 |
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ZC- I have trouble focusing normally but I am really good about hyper focusing. The thing is, I will find a distraction if I don't have one already. So, I can either create one which I can be productive with or one which I can be unproductive with. For studying music or even the tv in the background was productive. I actually with it could block it out in the background and hyper focus on my school work. Without, I would end up finding things like the desk needing to be cleaned, laundry folded, other chores, etc... The worst for me I found was during tests. It was to quiet. It made me skin crawl. I would end up really having trouble focusing and constantly find other things to pay attention to be sides the test. One of my profs. actually realized what was going on and as an experiment brought in a discman and bam I was flying on their test. From than on she did this and I got perfect scores in her classes that I took. I have this problem driving as well. Its a bit more dangerous though than not being able to focus correctly on a test. Its one of the big reasons why I do not drive. People can tell me I was conditioned to think this is true and the situation was created. I say, I don't think so. Its just who I am. So yeah, I had the music blasting in my ears when I wrote those kick butt papers which got me good grades. |
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| npl | Oct 27 2009, 11:30 AM Post #6 |
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I think there's a crucial difference between marketing "educational electronic media" to babies, and teaching older children and adults to develop study skills (which are then adapted to general life skills). There is no evidence that I have seen that babies and toddlers need "educating" - I have seen research that shows that babies learn from observation and interaction with the people and world around them. They don't NEED tv/dvds/educational books/computer programmes, etc. There is some evidence to suggest that watching tv is harmful to babies, although I'm not ready to say that it definitely causes all the ills that have been attributed to early tv watching. Whether the tv programmes marketed to babies, preschoolers and young children are suitable in content and theme is another area for debate. For high-school and college students, and even working adults, learning to create a conducive environment for focusing and learning is important. And it is an individual thing. I did find that quiet music while I studied/worked helped me to block out the distracting noise of the rest of the house. And, when I lived totally alone for a year, I needed background noise to help me to focus just because it was so lonely and unusual for me be in total quiet without hearing other people around me - quiet volume tv like soap operas were helpful for mimicking the noise of my home, which I was so accustomed to hearing. |
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| rikal | Oct 27 2009, 11:40 AM Post #7 |
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My problem is with the overstimulation being marketed as some how helpful when in fact it is the opposite. I ride an hour and a half bus 3 times a week and sleep most of the way. The lights go off when you leave the city for security and safety reasons. Everyone else is plugged into a sound machine or a laptop with headphones. |
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| zuncompany | Oct 27 2009, 12:10 PM Post #8 |
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npl- thats exactly why I kept a tv while in college. I turned it on for background noise to make up for the lack of natural household noise. Living alone without it almost made me insane! LOL I will not write off things like magic school bus and other such programs when used appropriately. Everyone learned different. FYI- baby Einsteins has always had the policy to give you your money back if you felt the dvds did not live up to their claims. always. |
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| U Tarzan Me Jane | Oct 27 2009, 12:56 PM Post #9 |
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I think suing them was ridiculous to begin with, especially when you figure in the money back policy they have always had. That said, parents who think parking their child in front of a tv will make them smart, need to have their head examined. If you use it as an occasional babysitter, that I can totally understand. Just don't think that TV can replace parental interaction. |
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| zuncompany | Oct 27 2009, 01:05 PM Post #10 |
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right. |
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| Chutzpah | Oct 27 2009, 01:09 PM Post #11 |
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I am so thankful that my parents, when we were yet very small, decided to get rid of the TV. I didn't have a TV until I was 29 and moved in with DH. I still don't watch Tv much, only watch about 2-3 hours a week. |
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| The Foxx | Oct 27 2009, 03:42 PM Post #12 |
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Someone gave us a Baby Einstein DVD. We watched it once. Never again. Dylan was never big on TV (until recently). The only thing that held his attention was signing times. We watched them together and we all learned sign language. He was asking for milk at 7 months of age. He did truly learn from those videos. However, they were never used to "babysit" him. |
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| Zeesachaya | Oct 27 2009, 08:17 PM Post #13 |
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:nod No television for us growing up either. When I was 20 and got married, my husband wanted a television so we had one. Until the children came :) Immediately I insisted no television! Now it's my house, and my rules so of course this isn't even an issue. No television for us! It's after dinner here at my house right now and what are the children doing? Sitting in front of the television or playing video games? Oh heck no! They are playing a very involved game of imagination/hide and seek/counting - this is much more educational than any DVD! |
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| mummy | Oct 27 2009, 11:08 PM Post #14 |
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Well I have two tvs. One for kids, one for parents. Yes, I watch way too much. My kids might get to watch half an hour or so each weekday, and they will watch a movie or two on Sundays. My kids do pick things up from tv. I certainly didnt teach my then 2yo to count in spanish, lol. I think its as much a cop out to blame tvs for all the worlds ills as it is to have your tv babysit your kids 24/7. And I see nothing wrong with kids watching an educational show like baby Einsteins (my kids all loved it when we used to have cable) for half an hour so I can cook dinner without three munchkins under my feet. |
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| rikal | Oct 28 2009, 12:33 AM Post #15 |
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We had a tv in nearly every room. One of the reason was the sports loving men, mystery and soap opera loving Mom, sci fi sis and cartoon loving kids don't fight. When my nephew came to live with us he went through serios withdrawal. When a little older I asked if he ever went to play with friends. Yeah. What did you do? Watch tv together. I asked if he visited his friend or his friend's tv. The average family in the states does not watch an hour of educational, especially as they get older. Somebody is being brain numbed by MTV and fantasy shows, Reality tv is being watched by large numbers. Take a kook at what shows have the highest weekly ratings (as opposed to one timers like the Super Bowl). |
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