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ALAP 5 help; um...spoilers maybe?
Topic Started: Jan 2 2006, 11:46 PM (1,331 Views)
Arctic Phoenix
Azure Dragoon

I need help rolling up the king in the ALAP 5 stage (I think it is called that. It's the bird fan's stage). I can never seem to get above 2000 meters, and even then it's a stroke of luck to do so. Are there any suggestions on how to get the katamari bigger at a faster rate? Thanks in advance.
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KatamariKid10
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Use the egyptian desert when your big enough to roll it.
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vix
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Run you clever boy and remember...

slo_bro wrote a walkthrough for this level and I have yet to update the faq so here it is:

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1. Start next to the vegetable field.  Pick up the
Darumas in front of you, veering slightly left, and
pick up the long row of Bamboo Fence.  Go down the
hill.  Follow the path, picking up the Orange Baskets
along the way. 1m25cm

2. Turn slightly left and pick up the Kites along the
road.  Charge and Roll (CNR) if you want to.  Turn
right and get some of the Orange Baskets.  Turn right
at the alleyway and pick up the Stereos and Shikao.
Turn left and get the Pickle Tubs, then left again and
get most of the Rice Bales.  1m62cm

3. Turn left.  Get the Huge Rice Cakes.  Keep going
and get all the Snowmen.  Don't jump down to the train
track, turn right and get all the Samurai Armors.  You
might then be 2m+ and big enough to get the Pine
Decorations.

4. Get the 2 Pine Decorations around the schoolyard
entrance.  Don't go in, keep going straight.  Veer
right slightly to get the Garden Lanterns.  Turn right
and get 2 Pine Decorations.  Go left and up the hill.
Get the Huge Rice Cakes in front of the Rickshaw
carriage.  Go down the road getting Mortars.  2m35cm

5. Turn slightly right and you should see red tables
with Huge Rice Cakes, and several Pine Decorations in
the distance.  Get the Pine Decorations.  Turn right,
go and get all the Pine Decorations alongside a
building.  Backtrack and get the 2 Pine Decorations in
front of the building.  Go down the road, getting
Tatami Mats, and eventually 2 Pine Decorations.  Turn
left.  Now you enter the schoolyard.  2m80cm

6. Go straight into the schoolyard until you get the
Taiko Drum, getting running people if they get in your
way.  Turn right and get the Female Students.  Get the
next Taiko Drum and the Gang Leaders.  Get more
running people if necessary.  First Loading Screen

7. Go straight through the fence if you're 3m20cm; if
you're not that big go through the cones.  Turn left
and go down the waterfall.  Go straight, then enter
the tennis court to your right from its corner.  Go
through the tennis court diagonally, and go down the
road you come out at.  CNR if you want down the road,
avoiding cars and getting Hanging Bells, Red Umbrellas
and Flower Beds.  4m49cm

8. Instead of visiting the beach turn left.  Continue
down the road getting Lion Statues.  Get all 3 Shrine
Dogs in the intersection and veer slightly left.  Get
more Shrine Dogs down the road, and the Vending
Machines laying in the road, and the Rickshaws if
they're there.  CNR up the hill if you want.  5m31cm

9. Get the 2 Crossing Bars and the P.E. Teachers, then
the whole swerving row of Taxis.  Turn around in the
process.  Squeeze between the Regular Tree and the bus
stops, then get the 5 vehicles parked in front of you.
6m70cm

10. Squeeze between the red building and the round
building.  Get all the Palm Trees and Slides on the
way down the hill.  Get the Jungle Gyms.  Do a 180 and
get the elephants, or get the red and green buildings
above them first if you're not quite big enough for
the elephants.  Cross the road and go down the hill,
getting Regular Trees.  10m30cm

11. Get the stack of Karaoke Buildings that look like
trailers.  Turn left with the road and go up the hill.
Get 2 Regular Trees and head all the way up to the
Ferris Wheel.  Stand to the right of the Ferris Wheel
and let all its cars (Gondolas) come to you.  Second
Loading Screen

12. Do a 180 and go over the red-roofed buildings to
get the Plastic Greenhouses.  Go straight, slightly
uphill and then get all the Cherry Trees in a double
row.  Go up the waterfall, and then work a zigzag
pattern forward and backward while sliding right,
until you're 18m50cm and right in front of the big
Apartment Buildings.  Turn left, hug the cliff, and
get all the Huge Trees.  20m50cm

13. Turn left before you'd fall in the water, and get
4 more Huge Trees and the buildings on the cliff.  Go
down the cliff and forward until you get the
blue-roofed building.  Turn left, go up the hill to
get the flying whale and the red-roofed Mansion.  Turn
right and get 4 Huge Trees, then turn left and get the
buses.  23m60cm

14. Go up into the big city, aiming for the building
in front of you, you should pick it up.  Roll to the
left and get 3 more buildings.  The screen should
blur.  Go forward, then turn left and get 2 more
buildings.  Go up the hill to the gas station.
27m40cm

15. Follow the raised highway as it swerves right.
CNR from where the gas station was if you want, it's a
fun CNR around a corner.  Go just to the right of the
road and pick up both the row of colorful buildings
and the Huge Trees to their right at the same time.
You might not be big enough to get the first
green-roofed building, that's fine.  30m

16. Do a 180 by the arch, cross the road and get
another row of colorful buildings while you also get a
row of brown buildings to their right.  Cross the
river and get the buildings on the left side of the
island.  Do a 180 just before you reach Cinderella's
moat, go slightly left and go along the river and then
the bank, getting buildings along the way.  34m

17. Turn right before you reach the road surrounded by
brown.  Get the brown buildings, cross the road and
get the colorful buildings, then get the right half of
the colorful buildings in front of you next to the
arch.  Do a 180 by the Eiffel Tower, slide slightly
right and get the rest of the colorful buildings.
37m50cm

18. CNR if you want, go down the road surrounded by
brown.  If you're less than 38m get the trains.  Keep
facing the same way for this part.  Go to the right
and get the Merlions by the water, then forward to get
the brown buildings by the river, then slide just left
into the Gigantic Trees.  If you aren't big enough to
collect the Gigantic Trees get more stuff until you
are.  39m

19. Go forward.  The screen will blur as you go around
the edge of the tall bridge getting more Gigantic
Trees.  Get all the Auto Factories and Gigantic Trees,
then turn slightly left.  CNR if you want, getting
Oilfield stuff and hopefully the Indian Elephant.  If
he's too far away then ignore him.  Swerve way right
(while you're still CNRing); go across the river and
get 3 more Oilfields.  Go into the water.  You should
see New York in the distance.  45m50cm

20. Swerve a little to the right and CNR into New York
right between the two big green buildings.  Try to hit
the big, tall building in the middle -- if you're
really, really lucky you just might fly up and pick
King Kong right off the top!!! :)  49m

21. Go right and get the Huge Bowling Pins and 2 small
buildings.  Go counterclockwise around King Kong's
building, getting all the small buildings along the
way.  Once you are over 51m, aim right toward the
Statue of Liberty and get the tall green building.
Don't go into the water. [Or, if you're here for
sightseeing, go into the water, take out the camera,
and get a nice close-up of the French's gift to the
USA, the Statue of Liberty.] 55m

22. Do a 180, move slightly right, and pick up all the
large green buildings in front of you.  Go right up
against the cones and get the two large green
buildings, then the Jennifer's Building to their left.
Get as many buildings as you need to reach the Third
Loading Screen.

23. Go through the cones, and slightly right to get
the row of Presidents' mansions.  Go to the left of
the shopping mall and get another row of Presidents'
mansions.  Climb up and get the first Death Valley,
then turn right and aim for Mt. Rushmore and get
everything in your path.  Get the Mt. Rushmore faces.
80m

24. Get the little patch of trees.  Do a 180, without
falling into the water.  Go back to New York and get
all the buildings except the 2 tallest ones.  Get the
Statue of Liberty!  Do a 180 and get the 2 tallest
buildings, then the four Gas Tanks.  Go up the hill
and get the Control Tower (you're not big enough to
get the rest of the building).  The screen might blur.
100m

25. Cross the Golden Gate Bridge.  Get the hot air
balloons and all the Tall Totem Poles except for the
ones on the highest plateau.  Head into the city.
Pick up the city until you're 114m.

26. Go in the water.  Pick up 2 small islands on the
way to the monster knocking down buildings next to the
desert.  Get him and the buildings.  Get the Rocks on
the way to the two big Pyramids, and get the Pyramids.
Turn slightly left toward the small Oil Tanks, go
into the water, and into the next city.  Roll through
the city, then position yourself off shore in the
water next to the boat and the whirlpool.  152m

27. CNR if you want.  Go forward through the water
until you reach the Great Wall of China.  CNR again
onto land if you want, or get the Great Wall if you
want.  Keep going forward.  Get the city in front of
you, then the 2 boats to your right.  Climb up the
hill and get the stadium, the arch and the Eiffel
Tower.  Go up another little hill and get the rainbow
and boat above Niagara Falls.  The screen might blur.
187m

28. Go down, get the Shopping Mall.  Head along the
beach, get the boats and islands, then make sure
you're 200m or more.  This next part is tricky.  Sidle
up against the cliff in front of you to get the big
Cloud.  Go to the right and start going
counterclockwise around the edge of the cliff, staying
in the water. Ignore the high Cloud, but get the next
one.  Force your way up the rounded hill to get Machu
Picchu, then get the two clouds beyond it.  Get little
islands on the way to the entrance to the desert.
Fourth Loading Screen

29. Get random little pieces of desert until you're
over 350m, then get the rest of the desert.  Get it
all; it's a lot easier to get bigger this way than in
the next part.  Relentlessly pick up desert until
you're over 460m.

30. Get the boat to your right, and the dinosaurs on
the next island in front of you.  Head toward Mt. Fuji
and get the Fried Rice Mountain along the way.  Go
counterclockwise around Mt. Fuji, then up Niagara
Falls to get the two monsters.  Get the Golden Gate
Bridge.  You just might hit 500m!  If you're not to
490m yet scour the islands until you are.  Then hit
500m and reach your goal! :)

31. Climb onto the island beyond the Golden Gate
Bridge, and get pieces of land on that island until
you're 520m.  Then go where the desert was, and get
the lining around the desert until you hit 600m,
turning around in the process.  Face the huge tornado;
ravage the next island in front of you until you hit
720m. [If by chance you are playing As Fast As
Possible 5 you won't be able to reach the sizes I list
here because there is not as much land to pick up, but
that's alright.]  Go clockwise around the island ring
across the next island until you reach 850m, then the
next island until 930m.

32. Do a 180 and locate a huge volcano in the
distance.  Head toward it, and get all the little
volcanoes around it.

33. Now you're over 1000m, it's time to see the world!
Travel around, don't spend too long on any one
island, and don't visit any one island too many times.
You can get icebergs around 1500m, big chunks of land
just over 2000m, the huge volcano and big clouds
around 2600m, and - dun, du du DUM - somebody VERY BIG
around 3000m!  If you have time you can make it all
the way to over 3600 meters tall.

I have used this route to reach 500m in under seven
minutes, and to build a katamari of over 3630m.
Enjoy!
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slowbro
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way too silly :S

Just by chance would anybody want to see big long walkthroughs of the Grandpa and Grandma stages ALAP3&4 by me? They would be a lot like this one but hopefully not quite as long. They wouldn't include anything as fun as flying up to get Kong, though.
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Maniacal
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I'd be interested in reading through them to see how you approach things differently from me, but I am fairly happy with my methods on those stages now (just as with ALAP 5) and I'm working on refining them a bit. If noone else is particularly interested, I probably wouldn't benefit nearly enough to justify the time expenditure, but I'd be interested in reading through them if you do write them. :) I know I need to work on my ALAP 5 goal completion time, so I'm probably going to examine my approach with respect to your own (they're fairly similar, but I like to be around China to grab Buddha for +4m-ish at ~60m and you head down through the gate at the pool much earlier than I do [3.6-3.9m], so I have to try that). I'd be interested in seeing how you approach them, but a video might be easier, if that's an alternative.
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way too silly :S

A video would be a very good idea. Too bad I don't have the ability to copy from the game (or a VHS) to my computer, and too bad my Web connection is 56k. Of course I am not the only person who could get a video hosted and link to it here! :) (I am hoping that some time Dr. Thinker gets his 7m70cm+ in 50-Item Stage video available online.)

For now I will wait on writing more walkthroughs until I hear of anybody else who might benefit more.

stages I am thinking of writing walkthroughs for: AFAP3, AFAP4, Sumo
EDIT: I finally did write walkthroughs for those three stages and some others. And thanks Vix for putting them in your FAQ! I hope they're useful to somebody.

edit: Yeah, I know that some people will do ALAP5 differently from me. The common tip is to wait to advance to the next area until you are about 1.5 times the required size; in all but one case I go to the next area immediately. And I never even pick up the Great Wall of China lol, even though it is such a useful pickup.

By the way, there IS one video of ALAP5 completion on the Web that I know of, that is MUCH faster than I have ever completed the stage. It is almost entirely different from my route. Somebody who calls himself Yoshifan made videos of at least eight stages, and they are all insanely fast:

http://www.vortiginous.com/yoshifan/We%20Love%20Katamari/
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Arctic Phoenix
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I was finally able to get to 3,100m before the time ran out. So close....but atleast I almost got it. Thanks for your help everyone, gonna attempt it again tonight.
EDIT- I got even closer! I actually knocked down the king at 3400m, but he ran away and time ran out before I could go after him! Now I really wished I could have used that charge and roll when I tried.
EDIT 2- Yes!!! I finally got him today! I was really lucky, as I rolled him up at the last second
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way too silly :S

tip I should have included in the walkthrough but I didn't know at the time I wrote it ...

Once you are 2500-2600, change gears and concentrate solely on the huge clouds. At this point they are by far the best thing you can get, and they will quickly get you to 3100m so you can get the King.

edit: Good going, Arctic Phoenix!
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Lonely Rolling Star

I had no idea that yoshifan added videos for ALAP and AFAP5... I'm gonna have to watch those.
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I have gotten to 3500 using slo_bro's method with easily 1.5-2 minutes to spare BUT that KING is the DEVIL! I have tried about 5 times, being at least 3000 or bigger and have only knocked him down where he proceeds to fall out of sight, and I scramble and waste maybe 5 or 10 seconds looking for him and he runs!!! I'm about to die or throw the PS2 against the wall. What is the deal? Any advice?
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Scratch that I just got 'em! Thank God....now where is the Queen?
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vix
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Run you clever boy and remember...

play the level again and she should appear. some say it's random, some say you need to get the king first...

try playing the level again and she should appear(at some point, lol)
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Yeah, she appears after you get the King. Then both will show up permanently. ;)
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*weeps* I thought I was finally done with that!!!!! But thanks.
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