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| Topic Started: May 30 2008, 02:33 PM (457 Views) | |
| vix | May 30 2008, 02:33 PM Post #1 |
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For the few active members, do you guys want to convert? I had known in advance certain features would be gone but after messing with the test board I'm unsure of whether or not we should convert. The biggest pro to converting is the better security from spambots and pornbots. Other pro's inlcude the new features like blogs, clubs, tagging topics, search works(though not currently on converted boards due to a bug), and others I've listed before elsewhere. But the removed features, I didn't realize not having them would be so much of a hassle. There is no view new posts. It only views today's posts(ie from midnight on). So if you left the board at 10pm and came back the next morning and clicked on view today's posts, you wouldn't see posts from 10pm to midnight listed. doHTML doesn't work anymore meaning the tables i have for the scoreboard won't be editable anymore. I converted the bk scoreboard to table bbcode it looks downright ugly with very little customization. Apparently table code isn't finished yet but that in itself kinda irks me too. I could always make the tables into html and put on webpages but you guys has said you wanted them kept as topics. At the bottom of each forum and topic page, the menu that lists all the forums is gone. New posts are listed as X minutes ago or X hours ago which I'm kinda in the middle on. The new pm system is very weird, there's no full reply screen and no clickable smilies box. Just a fast reply for each pm. And you can't delete pm's, only archive them. The ads appear more instrusive. There's no option for mods to move topics which just has me baffled. (edit: I finally figured out where that option was moved too, oye vey) Changing a font size isn't done with size=# anymore. It's done with using a tag for each size you want. So to go bigger is would be something like your text here For those of you that still care about this community, I ask you take a look at the test board: http://s7.zetaboards.com/vixie_test_board/index/ and let me know your opinions. You can register there and mess around. You don't need to verify your e-mail or anything like that to sign up so...opinions would be helpful. -- I mean, most of those things I suppose are dealable, it's like breaking in new boots or something. I don't know if they'll be adding in new features and what now. I have read new features like a shop will come out but I don't know if they'll bring back some of the older features that not only me is complaining about. |
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| s0njas0n | May 30 2008, 03:01 PM Post #2 |
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well, when you put it all together it sounds like kind of a bad deal. i suppose that if we did convert it would be things that we would just have to get used to. there are some pretty cool features to the new board, too bad we have to get rid of some of the already established features in it's place. like i said before i'll help you with the codes if you need any. what threads need to be changed, just the scoreboard or is it a lot more? the worst things to me are the sizing issues (which i don't use anyway, it just seems really stupid), the dohtml (which is a one time fix ... i think?), and the active topics. the pms are dealable. yes, they're weird, but it's not broken so i'm ok with it. overall, i could go either way. the conversion seems cool, but if you think it will be too much of a hassle i'm down with keeping it here. |
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| waxc3 | May 30 2008, 03:02 PM Post #3 |
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i will follow you all if you decide to. are whatever advantages worth whatever we lose do you think? i will lose my special banner!
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| vix | May 30 2008, 03:07 PM Post #4 |
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the whole big table just bugs me, i mean, we rarely use large fonts but it seems like a step backwards to make it have to be used 5 times to make a font bigger, same goes for small. :rolleyes as far as what posts need to be edited, it would be all the scoreboards and submit threads and any of the database topics that have youtube video's in them. I think the active topics thing bugs me the most. I knew I was gonna miss that but then I try to think of all the features we get like the custom profile fields. The question is, do you guys want the new features in place of losing one or two actively used features(that might get put back in at some point, who knows). I know that at the moment they are trying to sort out conversions and the auto-converter. It is still a good change that upgrades to the board will bring about new "old" features. I'm torn on this cause I want you guys to be happy with it. wax, what special banner? your postcount sliderbar thingy? that'll still be there. |
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| s0njas0n | May 30 2008, 03:27 PM Post #5 |
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that's true, they might always add the features back. at this point the good seems to outweigh the bad. it will just take a lot of painstaking work to get it "normal" |
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| vix | May 30 2008, 04:17 PM Post #6 |
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i know, it took me a while yesterday to get the scoreboard transferred into the table bbcode and it still looks funky, you can see it here: http://s7.zetaboards.com/vixie_test_board/topic/8000434/ i've been trying to think of an alternate to tables in the topic itself but i haven't come up with anything yet. We technically are slow enough to have each level be it's own post and we just update that BUT if we ever get a new game, that would be a HGE hassle down the line(if the table code hasn't been fixed by then) |
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| marbig | May 30 2008, 06:43 PM Post #7 |
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| ThumbsOfSteel | May 30 2008, 08:50 PM Post #8 |
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I know I'm new here, but here's my two cents worth. I took a look at the BK scoreboard test. I know that wasn't the final version, but there are a few things wrong with the way it looks. The heading "Size" doesn't line up with the others (Points, Time Attack, etc.). The entries under each heading don't line up with the others. I don't mind the bright banners for each level, but what the tables could really use are some darker lines around the borders and between the categories within each level. Also, I prefer the soft, light blue background of the old scoreboards to the white one of the test scoreboard. I don't see a compelling reason to change over, but then I don't really see myself using the new features I've read about so far. I like to keep things simple. I come to this site because it gives me a place to post scores. More than that, it's the best place I know of to talk about all things Katamari. I really like it here. The people are friendly and helpful. (I don't expect that to change regardless of formats.) On the other hand, it would be nice if the changeover brought back people who hadn't visited in a while. |
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| vix | May 30 2008, 10:21 PM Post #9 |
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What soft light blue background are you talking about on the old scoreboards? I'm going to put up a topic on the official support forum about the table codes to see if I get an answer about it's customization. I've never used table bbcode so i don't know if there are things I can do to edit it. I think I can get rid of the blue banners for each level, I think. I'll have to test some stuff out but I think it's possible. Thumbs, since you're new, I can see why you wouldn't want to change. I think there are some new features everyone would like, just me saying what they aren isn't exactly enticing. Like having custom profile fields would mean being able to make a spot in your profile for favorite cousin, favorite game, psn id, sbox live id, wii friend code, stuff like that. There's more search features, like searching by username to find all topics a user posted, posts, etc. Being able to have more than one skin(ie, a king skin or a shikao skin, etc). To name a few. At the moment there are still more pros to upgrading, it's just a matter of the bugs at the moment. The dohtml posts were supposed to transfer over and remain formatted so they wouldn't look like a jumble of code. I don't foresee upgraging bringing back a lot of people but it would be nice. In reality though we've always been a small community with people signing up, getting their help, and leaving, which is how the internet works sometimes. We have a few steady members that keep the place alive. More activity is always nice and I have no issues with topics not being katamari related. Marbig, are there set reasons why you want to upgrade? I temporarily changed the opt-in option because I don't want the board to be upgraded with all the bugs that appear to be happening. I can change it at any time but for right now it's set for me to choose the date and time for when I want conversion. So i'm hoping that by the second major round of auto-conversions they get a lot of the bugs fixed. |
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| s0njas0n | May 31 2008, 11:21 AM Post #10 |
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i definitely like the profile options. i added a post in the table topic. all i did was center and make the column titles larger. however, i can't seem how to make the borders any different right now. |
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| vix | May 31 2008, 06:03 PM Post #11 |
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through my course of investigation last night, it seems that the borders on tables are also associated with the boarders of the forum in general. so if i change them, it'll be forum wide. i put in some questions about the table code on the support board so we'll see what happens. i haven't checked the support board yet today so i don't know if my q's were answered. i love the profile options. being able to totally customize the board now is a huge plus. i like the idea of having different themes and stuff like that even though i'm not a great theme maker.
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| s0njas0n | May 31 2008, 09:33 PM Post #12 |
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ok, that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard. why can't you change the widths through the coding in the tables? lame. |
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| vix | May 31 2008, 10:04 PM Post #13 |
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they haven't answered my q's yet but i'm still hoping to the fact that they say the table bbcode isn't done yet. once we convert, there's no going back to this, meaning IF, at the moment. they may make it possible in the future but that's likely far down on the list of priorities so we need to be sure. there's a ton more pros to this than there are cons, it's just the cons affect us a bit more, like the tables. and i sorely hate the new pm system but that's just me. |
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