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| Topic Started: Sep 22 2008, 10:05 AM (19,618 Views) | |
| Shane | Sep 22 2008, 10:05 AM Post #1 |
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Mercedes De Acosta, Marlene Dietrich, Greta Garbo, Tallulah Bankhead... and everyone else. One of my favorite strange but true stories is that Joan Crawford and Marilyn Monroe had a fling. I read in the news a while ago that someone found tapes that Marilyn Monroe's psychiatrist made, and she talked about it! Unfortunately, I think it was a negative and confusing experience for her. My favorite Marlene Dietrich moment is in the movie Morocco, where she is wearing a tuxedo, gets close to a woman and looks her in the eye while smelling a rose, and kisses her on the lips. So gay. If you are interested in glamorous dykes of the past, I recommend reading The Girls: Sappho Goes to Hollywood by Diana McLellan. It's a bit trashy because there was a whole lot of sex going on, but it's totally fascinating. Do you know any other books or movies about this? Who is your favorite star? |
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| Guest | Sep 22 2008, 10:53 AM Post #2 |
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Barbara Stanwyck is my favourite old-school lez. I love watching her movies - she's such an amazing actress! I read about her rumoured affairs with women from this trashy paperback book that listed a lot of the 'open secret' Hollywood goss from the 1920s through to 1960s. I got it at a garage sale(unfortunately can't remember the title!). Parts of the documentary, Celluloid Closet, has an interesting look at old-school Hollywood and how homoerotic subtext was knowingly put into earlier films by directors and actors in a way that would pass the censors. |
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| Guest | Sep 22 2008, 11:13 AM Post #3 |
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I love it. It was the first lesbian movie kiss ever and made Marlene my favourite icon besides Greta Garbo. Both also competed for the other chick Mercedes de Acosta. (Greta’s Queen Christina is very worth watching) |
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| stockholm | Sep 22 2008, 12:13 PM Post #4 |
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Only if you turn the sound off and don't mind the inaccuracies. Greta Garbo was probably the most beautiful ever, but she was not much of an actress... Ingrid Bergman OTOH, now that was one talented, clever, AND beautiful lady. |
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| Guest | Sep 22 2008, 12:34 PM Post #5 |
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Do you mean linguistic or historical inaccuracies?? If you mean the latter, I’d say: don’t watch a Hollywood movie that is based on historical events. Watch a docu or take a good book of history instead. I love the movie because of Greta’s appearance, no more and no less. |
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| Guest | Sep 22 2008, 03:54 PM Post #6 |
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Old school bisexuals more like it. Most of them swallowed more cock than the gay boys so they're hardly lesbians. |
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| stockholm | Sep 22 2008, 04:11 PM Post #7 |
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Well, both. They didn't even get her name right. Not that it matters of course, I'm just saying. |
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| Guest | Sep 22 2008, 09:13 PM Post #8 |
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Miriam Hopkins was a hardcore bisexual who was known to throw wild sex orgy parties. She hung around with Errol Flyn...
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| Guest | Sep 23 2008, 07:34 AM Post #9 |
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A few lesbian and bi actresses Garbo (with true love Mimi Pollak) http://www.garboforever.com/Bilder/Childho...hildhood-25.jpg Lillian Tashman http://silentladies.com/Tashman/Tashman20.jpg Kay Francis http://www.geocities.com/kay_francis_pictu...francis_415.jpg Margaret Lindsay - probable gold star http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp...say_Hurrell.jpg Josephine Hutchison http://www.robertschanke.com/eva/evaimages/alice1.jpg Carole Landis http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60/kiwi...irrormirror.jpg Pola Negri http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/1096/polaneg.jpg Katharine Hepburn (Laura Harding on the left) http://www.npg.si.edu/exhibit/hepburn/images/01-02_full.jpg |
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| Guest | Sep 23 2008, 07:54 AM Post #10 |
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wasnt spencer tracey hepburns great love |
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| Guest | Sep 23 2008, 08:05 AM Post #11 |
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thanks 6:34 - I hadn't heard of some of them. Now I will look them up
Depending on which biography you read of Hepburn, she was straight, bi, or lesbian. The last biography - which I enjoyed tilted toward lesbian, mostly because of her long friendship/relationships with women. I don't really get the Spencer Tracy thing. It seems strange. He seemed like a depressed drunk who was not even nice to her. Some people think it was sexual, some think platonic, some think made up for PR purposes. It was strange, whatever it was. |
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| Guest | Sep 23 2008, 10:10 AM Post #12 |
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Go back to DL, gay man. |
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| Guest | Sep 23 2008, 05:25 PM Post #13 |
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The weird thing is that it was Laura Harding who was a closet case and it was Harding who went out of her way to perpetuate Hepburn being into men. Having read most biographies of Hepburn she comes across as a woman leaning bisexual with serious Daddy issues. The romance with Tracy doesn't seem sexual in any of the books but more a girl taking care of her Dad. It's weird. The breakup with Harding is sad. Rumors start hitting and so she does what her career demands. Again it doesn't help that Harding was just as bad as Hepburn. |
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| Guest | Sep 23 2008, 07:19 PM Post #14 |
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UMMMMMM....rude. |
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| fultondyke | Sep 23 2008, 09:46 PM Post #15 |
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The "mother" of all hollywood lesbians: Alla Nazimova! If you want an interesting read, get a copy of Gavin Lambert's biography of her (entitled NAZIMOVA)...she wasne of the first women in hollywood to direct and produce her films (often under male pseudonyms),and she was known for hosting "all-girl" pool parties on Sundays at her estate, The Garden of Alla! |
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| Guest | Sep 23 2008, 09:55 PM Post #16 |
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I want to steal this idea. |
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| Guest | Sep 23 2008, 10:22 PM Post #17 |
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Lizabeth Scott anyone? 1940's film noir femme fatal who was outed by Confidential in 1955 when they ran an article exposing the fact that she used the services of high class Hollywood prostitutes. The scandal ruined her career.... Although she tried to sue Confidential (and lost) and she's never come out, she never married or had any children and she's never spoken of the scandal or her sexuality publicly, not even to deny it. Rumour has it that we was a lover of Tallulah Bankheads early on in her career when she was Tallulah's understudy for a play. Juicy stuff. http://www.skylighters.org/photos/pinups/lizscott.jpg |
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| Guest | Sep 24 2008, 01:32 AM Post #18 |
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Oh I hadn't heard of that one. Any good bios on her? |
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| talking to myself... | Sep 24 2008, 01:44 AM Post #19 |
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Holy crap, I just realized that I did know that. I read it along time ago in that book, The Girls. Guess I didn't recognize her name for some reason. I must read that book again. Great book. |
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| Guest | Sep 24 2008, 03:29 AM Post #20 |
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Aw - that's actually pretty sad. She was probably so lonely. |
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| Guest | Sep 24 2008, 12:35 PM Post #21 |
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Yeah, the Scott-scandal is sad. She must've been outside the "sewing circle" of Hollywood les/bi's since she turned to prostitutes? The weird thing about Stanwyck is ,well read it on DL posted by SusieLee, that a lesbian author was working on a biopic about BS. And apparently much to her disappointment she found no facts/lovers of Stanwyck to confirm her bi/les sexuality. Instead everything indicated that she was straight. Also, Ava Gardner:
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| Guest | Sep 24 2008, 03:37 PM Post #22 |
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Yes I do feel very sorry for Lizabeth Scott and the way that her life turned out for her. I also wonder why she turned to prostitutes? Maybe she felt 'safer' doing that..... The brothel that had her details was extremely high class and very popular amongst a whole host of Hollywood stars. Mainly male, but the Confidential expose on Lizabeth Scott hinted that she wasn't the only hollywood actress to avail of their services.... Interesting fact is that Scott was one of the leading ladies in 'The Strange Love of Martha Ivers' in 1946, which also starred the rumoured lesbians Barbara Stanwyck and Judith Anderson..... and there were some rumours of an affair between Stanwyck and Scott on the set of the movie. Not sure that I believe it, but it's fun! The book 'The Girls' and also 'The Sewing Circle' contain a lot of good info on Scott I find her really interesting, and I really wish that someone would do a good bio on her, or better I wish that she would do an honest autobiography before she dies (she's 82) Highly unlikely, though. This is an exceedingly bizarre of her doing a strange version of the song 'Lollipop' with Patti Page and Gracie Fields. For some reason they are all dressed like adult babies and doing a cringy dance, but the vid is from 1958 after the scandal, so I guess poor Liz took whatever she was offered: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsE1FDmIOGE And a clip of her during her 1940's femme fatal heyday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpmbTTMgMvQ Love her gravelly voice..... I realise that I'm posting a lot about Liz, but as I said she's a pretty interesting (supposed) dyke! |
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| Guest | Sep 24 2008, 03:43 PM Post #23 |
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^^^ Sorry, Liz is 86 not 82 as I said above. Girl better start writing that autobiography quick! |
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| Guest | Sep 25 2008, 12:42 AM Post #24 |
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She sure seemed to enjoy licking that lollypop in the first video |
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| Guest | Sep 25 2008, 10:39 AM Post #25 |
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lol..oh dear! |
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| Guest | Sep 25 2008, 10:44 AM Post #26 |
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thanks guys, i love you for this. |
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| Guest | Sep 25 2008, 12:49 PM Post #27 |
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Lizzie Scott, eh? Any hot photos to share? What exactly is it that you find so fascinating about this Blonde Femme-Fatale? Her dark brows? Her Gravelly voice? Her Devil-may-care defiance of the hysterical bearding techniques of the Old Studios? Or her tendancy to wear men's cologne as she strutted around? Pity about this prostitution bust, couldn't a dyke get some ass in peace goddamit!? |
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| italianlady84 | Sep 25 2008, 11:05 PM Post #28 |
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Wow, can't believe somebody else here mentioned MARGARET LINDSAY. Wow. Didn't think anyone knew that name aside from me! Also, Beverly Roberts. Her gf was another Hollywood D list actress who's name I can't remember. And Lili Damita. My first girl crush, believe it or not! |
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| Guest | Sep 25 2008, 11:13 PM Post #29 |
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You can play Lizabeth Smith - Dress the Doll! http://www.paperdolls.com/pages/lizdressem.htm |
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| Guest | Sep 25 2008, 11:15 PM Post #30 |
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OOPS - Lizabeth Scott (not Smith) - Dress the doll |
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