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| Topic Started: 18 May 2009, 09:17 PM (1,462 Views) | |
| Timbo | 5 Jun 2009, 03:46 PM Post #31 |
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Here's an interesting S/O at Devon Railway Centre. It has con rods but little else to save it... I can't see where there's room for any power source, unless of course a battery is stashed in a trailing wagon... This is 7.25" gauge. Pic a little skewed due to the camera phone being used at speed. And here's a 10.25" gauge one also at the DRC which is now in the capable hands of one of our forum members, Charles O'Mahoney, less most of its S/O appendages. 
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| penrose | 5 Jun 2009, 06:41 PM Post #32 |
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Despite the fact it's now in a more conventional outline, I thought that the steam outline had a certain charm about it - mainly because it was perhaps the worst attempt at Thomas the Tank Engine I've ever seen! The "boiler" and "face" are still around in case I ever want to convert it back.... My "favourite" steam outline loco though would have to be Robin Hood, now at North Bay. |
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| tom_85 | 6 Jun 2009, 03:25 PM Post #33 |
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Timbo - I actually quite like 'Alfie' in your photo, has something of a quarry hunslet about it. Definitely not one of the worst s/o locos I've seen! Looks kind of unfinished though. Some dummy outside cylinders would improve it I think. Wonder why the body was made to be so narrow? Penrose - I agree - I love the extra chimney! What's that all about!? I reckon there's a nice little diesel shunter to be made out of it though - good luck! |
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| DevilDrummer | 7 Jun 2009, 05:14 PM Post #34 |
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I've never looked into and am unsure of the history surrounding, thus i could be entirely wrong but... i always felt as though the Hudwell Clarke loco's could've been destined to be steam engines, from memory of looking round Robin Hood and what is now Posieden when they were at CCLR, everything seems beefy enough to be on a steam engine, the smokebox for example is very thick (something like 3/8"), a world away from the thickness of Battisons 'smokebox'. I also thought is possible that at the last minute the buyer backed out and someone else was interested but didnt want a steam loco so a diesel engine was thrown in instead. It would explain why they look so much like a proper steam engine, unlike most S/O loco's. |
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| rough-shunter | 7 Jun 2009, 06:07 PM Post #35 |
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Hudswell locos are allways built over the top! i know certainally in the big stuff the more you put behind one the more it will pull better |
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| DGH | 7 Jun 2009, 06:27 PM Post #36 |
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When they were built the concept of diesel power was new and the chassis and motion on our four are built as though they are steam. The movement on the valve gear gives about a 50mm movoeme nt on the position for the valve ports. Also, whilst the radius arm is fixed, it could be made to work to give reverse and the hole is already cut for the reach rod in the left hand side running board. We have measured how much can be cut from the dummy cylinder block which can be machined out to give a 7" diameter to the 10" stroke. All we need is a boiler and with a bit of additional work, Poseidon could be converted to steam, for about £35000. It has been done before with Tracy-Jo and can be done again. David |
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| DevilDrummer | 7 Jun 2009, 10:57 PM Post #37 |
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The way you say that, even going as far as quoting a price makes it look like you've looked into this quite substantially, so is/has it being seriously considered? Sorry to hijack the thread |
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| DGH | 7 Jun 2009, 11:02 PM Post #38 |
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Tom, You might think that, I couldn't possibly confirm it. David Edited by DGH, 7 Jun 2009, 11:03 PM.
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| Ben | 8 Jun 2009, 09:25 PM Post #39 |
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I would really hope this is not being seriously considered, the Hudswell Pacifics have their own place in history as some of the oldest diesel hydraulic locomotives, I think it would be a real shame to see one converted to steam. |
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| craiggluyas | 8 Jun 2009, 09:39 PM Post #40 |
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I disagree Ben, not one of them has its original engine or Hydraulic transmission equipment. In actual fact the current transmission is totally different to the original, being hydrostatic rather than hydro-kinetic (at the time shortened to Hydraulic, the same as in the Hymek, Westerns and Warships), which are ony similar in the fact they use fluid to transmit the drive. Their actual workings are totally different. Triton and Neptune are the oldest and original for the line, so Posiedon would be the ideal candidate. Craig |
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| DGH | 8 Jun 2009, 10:52 PM Post #41 |
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Not some of the oldest. Neptune is the oldest in the world Robin Hood is the second oldest Triton is the third We have the full set. Poseidon is the fifth after the Blackpool A1. David |
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| Badger064ST | 9 Jun 2009, 10:57 PM Post #42 |
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While it would be wonderful to see a steam locomotive on the NBR, I am not sure creating one out of what is already there is the best way to go about it As Dr Ian Malcolm says in Juassic Park "People are too preoccupied to see whether they could do somthing to stop and think whether they should" (the qoute may not be exact!) They are wonderfully splendid as steam outline locomtives and the fact they appear in most of the posts as peoples favourites may be a clue to what people think |
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| henry | 17 Jun 2009, 11:45 AM Post #43 |
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As a steam outline owner myself,I think some of these locos have a certain charm all of their own,and whilst changing the power unit/transmission to more modern equipment isnt the end of the world,a change to steam does create a sort of hybrid that is historically incorrect;If I had 35k spare,I think I would first consider raising the balance and constructing a new steam loco,leaving the s/o intact; just my personal view..... |
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