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Surrey Border & Camberley Railway; What stock survives?
Topic Started: 10 Aug 2009, 10:46 AM (480 Views)
craiggluyas	10 Aug 2009, 10:46 AM Post #1
Director Posts: 2,278 Group: MRMT Trustees Member #46 Joined: October 5, 2006	Hi All, I've become very interested in this line of late, and having read the book published some time ago by Mr Townsend and others, wondered what stock of the line still survives today, both locos and rolling stock. For those who don't know, it was possibly the most ambition 10Ľ line ever constructed, but sadly closed before WW2 never to re-open. Regards Craig Edited by craiggluyas, 10 Aug 2009, 10:51 AM.
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nick	10 Aug 2009, 11:58 AM Post #2
Porter Posts: 7 Group: Member Member #220 Joined: August 17, 2007	Yup. A fascinating line and the late Ken Bullock (HCS Bullocks son) who I had the privalidge to meet when I was at Eastleigh Lakeside during the 90's had some absorbing stories to tell, especially about high speed runs down the line. Rob H might remember some of them. Clive's got Edward The Eighth (now restored) at Eastleigh which certainly ran on the SBCR. The pictures of some of the closed semi-scale coaches were interesting - IIRC they appeared to have gull wing doors or at least partial gull wings in the roof to ease loading. I've got a copy of Ken's book about HCS somewhere, if I can find it there may be a little more info in there. Don't have a copy of the SBCR book but I'll bet Simon's got some gen stored away in his notes... Nick Coe



penrose	10 Aug 2009, 12:21 PM Post #3
Manager Posts: 484 Group: Member Member #7 Joined: August 15, 2006	King George VI is at Kerrs, one of the Garratts is at Royal Victoria, and as Nick noted Edward VIII is at Eastleigh. I believe the remainder of the locos still exist but are with private owners. If I remember correctly some of the rolling stock later ran at North Tawton and is now stored (with one of the locos) not a million miles away from here... Messrs Townsend and Holroyde will probably be able to provide plenty of interesting info when they next log on!
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FWN	11 Aug 2009, 12:50 AM Post #4
Porter Posts: 16 Group: Member Member #909 Joined: January 4, 2009	I am lead to beleve that one of the coaches at the Watt Tyler railway is running on bogies carring the initials SBCR, i shall pop over asap and check



nick	11 Aug 2009, 01:38 PM Post #5
Porter Posts: 7 Group: Member Member #220 Joined: August 17, 2007	I found Kens' book. 'H.C.S. Bullock - His Life And Locomotives' I was wrong about gull wing roof bits. Photo's show lift out roof pieces over the doors of the 'Pullmans'. Charles is absolutely right about one loco in Cornwall. So - from the book an at least partial list of loco's that were assigned to the SBCR:- 1003 Western Queen - Cornwall 2573 Harvester (may not have run there though assigned) 2005 Silver Jubilee now named King George VI - Kerrs 2006 Edward VIII - Eastleigh 3008 0-4-2t rebuilt 0-6-0t 2011 Coronation 4012 Garratt Nick Coe



david colley	12 Aug 2009, 05:26 PM Post #6
Instigator of Waving. Posts: 496 Group: Moderators Member #24 Joined: August 18, 2006	According to these pages here the other Kitson Garratt is hiding in Australia...
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MuzTrem	15 Aug 2009, 06:31 PM Post #7
Operations Manager Posts: 921 Group: Friends of MRMT Member #65 Joined: December 5, 2006	...and IIRC Harvester is in India. Edited by MuzTrem, 15 Aug 2009, 06:31 PM.



henry	17 Aug 2009, 09:14 AM Post #8
Porter Posts: 39 Group: Member Member #894 Joined: November 21, 2008	I have a picture somewhere in my book collection showing a person sitting in one of the coaches,the door on this particular one is 'gull wing' in that it lifts upwards,and is hinged on both roof and eaves;it has to be said that the accommodation is somewhat 'snug' !



sedwards_458	19 Aug 2009, 08:47 PM Post #9
Porter Posts: 27 Group: Member Member #908 Joined: January 3, 2009	The garratt at the royal victoria railway is 4012, the one that was 'narrow gauged' at shillingstone. The second one used to be in this country in Norfolk, as my friend has a video of it there. It was sold at auction in 2005? The 0-6-0 engine was taken as payment from Bullock upon his death, as he had not completed the engine he had on order for Captain Howey. The engine was rebuilt as a tender engine and ran on a regauged section of the romney hythe and dymchurch railway, later moving to hastings. It is now know as Firefly on the Kerrs miniature railway. Edited by sedwards_458, 19 Aug 2009, 08:48 PM.



Badger064ST	19 Aug 2009, 09:26 PM Post #10
Driver Posts: 253 Group: MRMT Trustees Member #44 Joined: September 29, 2006	sedwards_458 19 Aug 2009, 08:47 PM The 0-6-0 engine was taken as payment from Bullock upon his death, as he had not completed the engine he had on order for Captain Howey. The engine was rebuilt as a tender engine and ran on a regauged section of the romney hythe and dymchurch railway, later moving to hastings. It is now know as Firefly on the Kerrs miniature railway. I think we are getting tank engines confused here. 3007 Firefly started life as a 0-6-0 pannier tank and was used on the Fox Hill Miniature Railway which Bullock had initally constructed as a private line to test locomotives on. After Bullock parted company with the Fox Hill line this locomotive was taken to his new railway at California in England in Berkshire. It was indeed taken as repayment following Bullocks death. The 0-6-0T that ran on the SB&CR started life as 3008 an 0-4-2T and was used at Fox Hill it was aquired third hand at the age of 2 for use on the SB&CR and was rebuilt as on 0-6-0T. Its post SB&CR history is vague and its present location was unknown, well at least in 1993 when the book was published!
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sedwards_458	19 Aug 2009, 11:32 PM Post #11
Porter Posts: 27 Group: Member Member #908 Joined: January 3, 2009	ok sorry, my mistake.


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