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PASSED: Emergency Powers (Reform) Motion; Private Member Motion
Topic Started: Jun 14 2008, 04:38 PM (212 Views)
Commoncold0
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Mr Speaker,

"I move that this House condemn the current Emergency Powers procedures as unworkable and calls for them to be either reformed or abolished."
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Cieran
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What's wrong with the current ones?...
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Commoncold0
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Cieran
Jun 14 2008, 05:40 PM
What's wrong with the current ones?...

To activate the emergency powers, you need a 2/3 majority in the house. If you're going to get a 2/3 majority in the house, then you don't need emergency powers anyway. They're pointless.


I'll be coming up with a constitutional ammendment over the next few weeks, but I want to make sure that there's support for reform first.
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HRH King Zog II
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I believe first a major rethink is required as to the purpose of Emergency powers.
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HRH King Zog II
Jun 14 2008, 06:09 PM
I believe first a major rethink is required as to the purpose of Emergency powers.

To prevent petty politics allowing the country to collapse into anarchy (ie. the fall of Sheepling's first government).

EDIT: also, to provide a quick response to a crisis without having to waste time in parliament.
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Commoncold0
Jun 14 2008, 06:11 PM
HRH King Zog II
Jun 14 2008, 06:09 PM
I believe first a major rethink is required as to the purpose of Emergency powers.

To prevent petty politics allowing the country to collapse into anarchy (ie. the fall of Sheepling's first government).

EDIT: also, to provide a quick response to a crisis without having to waste time in parliament.

Said petty politics stop any democratic emergency powers measure from having any hope of succedding if it were to be needed in such a case.
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Commoncold0
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HRH King Zog II
Jun 14 2008, 08:00 PM
Commoncold0
Jun 14 2008, 06:11 PM
HRH King Zog II
Jun 14 2008, 06:09 PM
I believe first a major rethink is required as to the purpose of Emergency powers.

To prevent petty politics allowing the country to collapse into anarchy (ie. the fall of Sheepling's first government).

EDIT: also, to provide a quick response to a crisis without having to waste time in parliament.

Said petty politics stop any democratic emergency powers measure from having any hope of succedding if it were to be needed in such a case.

I think I've come up with a way of allowing emergency powers to work while at the same time making sure that governments can't turn into dictatorships. I just need to work out a few details...
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Sheepling
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The question is as in the motion.

As many who are of that opinion say aye,
Aye!
To the contrary no,
No!

Division!
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Commoncold0
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Aye!
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master dingley
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Aye, CCO is right :P
If you have that much support then that would render these powers pretty much unneeded
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Cieran
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Aye...
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HRH King Zog II
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Pokemaniac John
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Nay.
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