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| Commoncold0 | Aug 15 2008, 10:56 PM Post #31 |
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And just like that, the far left turns into the far right. |
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| Cieran | Aug 15 2008, 11:07 PM Post #32 |
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Communism can't be forced. That's what's wrong with China and Cuba and what was wrong with the USSR... |
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| Commoncold0 | Aug 15 2008, 11:10 PM Post #33 |
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And because it cannot be forced, it cannot be implemented. |
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| Cieran | Aug 15 2008, 11:15 PM Post #34 |
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No. As I said previously, a gradual drift towards the left is required for it to be implemented, until everyone is communist naturally and of their own free will. Also, it can be brought in democratically. The communist party currently runs Cyprus, and they were democratically elected... |
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| Commoncold0 | Aug 15 2008, 11:29 PM Post #35 |
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Nice plan - shame it won't work. Are you seriously suggesting that a communist society would somehow never produce somebody who disagreed with the system? |
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| Cieran | Aug 15 2008, 11:57 PM Post #36 |
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By its very definition, yes. If there was someone who didn't then it wouldn't be... |
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| Commoncold0 | Aug 16 2008, 12:30 AM Post #37 |
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You are reckoning without the creation of new ideas or the rediscovery of old ones. If a communist utopia was ever achieved, it could only be maintained by the abolition of thought. |
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| Cieran | Aug 16 2008, 12:40 AM Post #38 |
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Exactly, which is the problem. A utopian ideal is also one which cannot be reached, or doesn't exist. Utopia derives from "non-existant" in greek, I think. I'm not entirely sure though... |
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| eriatarka1 | Aug 16 2008, 12:06 PM Post #39 |
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Let me just jump in there. It means "no place" literally (so non-existent is a fairly good rendering). What CC0 is therefore saying is that communism doesn't work in practice. And I hate to be a downer, Lewis, but he's right - absolute power corrupts absolutely. |
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| Cieran | Aug 16 2008, 12:11 PM Post #40 |
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Well communism doesn't give absolute power. It spreads out the power between everyone. If we invest all power in one person to protect the communism (such as Stalin) then yes, it will corrupt, but if everyone is equal I fail to see how it would... |
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| Commoncold0 | Aug 16 2008, 12:12 PM Post #41 |
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On the condtion that nobody uses it. <_< |
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| Inevitable | Aug 16 2008, 12:38 PM Post #42 |
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Not if making them involved Boohistory asking them nicely. No one would refuse that. |
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| Commoncold0 | Aug 16 2008, 12:39 PM Post #43 |
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I would. |
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| Inevitable | Aug 16 2008, 12:50 PM Post #44 |
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That's because you're an evil capitlist. |
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| Commoncold0 | Aug 16 2008, 01:37 PM Post #45 |
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Still wrecks your point. |
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