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Butterfly ID
Topic Started: Sep 16 2008, 02:56 PM (19,498 Views)
Chris
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This butterfly, I do believe, is a Black-veined White (Aporia crataegi) which, according to Collins, is extinct in the British Isles. Before I put it into my non-British butterfly thread (assuming, of course, that it hasn't re-appeared since the last edition of the book was published in 2008 ;) ) it would be good to have confirmation of my ID. :grin:
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Davebutterflyman
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:hello1: Chris

Photo 1 is indeed Meadow Brown

Photo 2 is Large Skipper and the best id point for this species is the hooked antennae (just visible if you look carefully at the photo) the hooked antennae are diagnostic to this skipper species in the UK.
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Chris
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:hello1: Dave. Thanks for confirming the ID's to Photos 1 & 2 and for the info re: the skipper. :cool4:
Edited by Chris, Jun 16 2011, 06:32 PM.
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Davebutterflyman
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:wow2: definitely Black-veined White Chris and a cracking photo as well.

It is now unfortunately extinct but one or individuals are reported from time to time in the UK as rare vagrants.I did chase after a supposed one which had been reported from the Martin down area of Hampshire some years ago but it was a fruitless exercise in the end.
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Chris
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Great news, Dave. :yay: I was pretty certain about what it was but with something extra special I wanted a second opinion! It will now go into my butterfly thread! :grin:
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Davebutterflyman
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Great news indeed Chris and a delightful butterfly to see :grin:
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Chris
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Two more for confirmation of ID's, please.

Top picture: I think this is a Marbled Fritillary (Brenthis daphne) and not Lesser Marbled Fritillary (Brenthis ino), even though the latter is the one more likely to be found this far north in France. The absence of the spot in the cell close to the thorax and the presence, if any, of very weak, rather than strong, links at the wing margins are my principal reasons for opting for B. daphne. I am not sure of the size because I only had a quick glimpse before taking the picture but I think it was the larger of the two butterflies. According to Collins, neither of these butterflies are resident in the UK.

Bottom (two) pictures: I am fairly certain that this is a Small Copper (Lycaena phlaeas).
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Davebutterflyman
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Spot on with both Chris.

Probably the most reliable way of telling B.daphne from B.ino is in the underside rectangular marking outside the cell. This is half shaded with brown/purple in daphne but clear cream in ino.
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Chris
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Thanks, Dave. :shake: Unfortunately, I never got to see, let alone photograph, the underside of the wings of the Fritillary. :(
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carlos100
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Lovely Butterflies Chris.

Its amazing theres only 20 odd miles seperating England and France and yet they dont get here.

When you think some Butterflies go vast distances across seas etc.
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Davebutterflyman
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It is a real shame Carl and if we were landlocked there would be potential for over 100 british species.
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Chris
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Common Blue, I think. Am I correct, please? Thanks. :grin:
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Davebutterflyman
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Lovely image Chris :clap3:

Correct with your id of Polyommatus icarus
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Chris
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Thanks, Dave, and I have only just noticed that the photo is at right angles to what it should be! :cwl:
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Davebutterflyman
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So it is! :giggle:
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I thought it was probably right as it was ... allowing for the curvature of the earth and all that :rofl:
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Chris
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Gill :giggle:
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Davebutterflyman
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:lol: Gill
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Chris
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Is this a Small Skipper? The antennae tips seem to be clubs rather than hooks and they appear to be yellow, too. I would be glad of some guidance on this one. :thankyou:

I have added a second butterfly to this post. The second picture below is mostly likely featuring the Brown Argus (Aricia agestis agestis) but given its poor state I thought I would post it for confirmation. Thanks.
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Davebutterflyman
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Correct on both counts Chris :cool2:

One good id pointer for Brown argus over Common blue is that the orange lunules go all the way to the apex of the forewing on Brown argus and only part of the way on Polyommatus icarus.
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