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Butterfly ID
Topic Started: Sep 16 2008, 02:56 PM (19,505 Views)
Davy Tee
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Fantastic Dave thank you.
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Davy Tee
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Dave or anyone for that matter i thought this was a Small Heath but there is no white spot on the upper wing, so what is it please.

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Davebutterflyman
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:hello1: Davy

Thats a Meadow Brown maniola jurtina
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carlos100
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Two Butterflies today.


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Not too sure on this one
Is it a skipper or something else.
I couldnt see any black in it

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Edited by carlos100, Jun 27 2010, 06:59 PM.
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Davebutterflyman
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:hello1: Carl

It could either be Small or Essex skipper but you would need to check under the end of the antennae.On Essex skipper the antennae tip is black whereas on Small skipper the tips are orange.
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carlos100
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Ah in that case then I think it has to be an Essex as the tips are black.
Thanks Dave.
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Davy Tee
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I cant find this in any of my id books any ideas ?

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Davy Tee
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I suspect this is a female Common Blue

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Davy Tee
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And is this a Common Blue or an Adonis maybe ?

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Edited by Davy Tee, Jun 28 2010, 03:42 PM.
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Davy Tee
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Found out last one is a Common Blue
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Davebutterflyman
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Great captures Davy :clap3:

They are all Common Blue.

The top two images are of females and they can vary with the amount of blue suffused scales.The only real confusion species is Brown Argus but the upperwings on Brown Argus never show any blue scales and the orange marks (lunules) always extend to the outer tip on the forewing whereas on Common Blue the last two lunules are generally devoid of orange.
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Davy Tee
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The two females look so different though.
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They do and i have seen on a few occasions at least four females at the same site that all looked different....very confusing!!
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Davebutterflyman
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Here is a useful tip when trying to identify Common blue from Brown Argus.Hope you don't mind but i borrowed your photo as it was an excellent example to use.

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If you look where i have circled this is called a "Cell spot" and is absent in all cases on Brown argus but is the diagnostic on Common Blue.
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NBShaz
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:encore: Fantastic photos Davy .. and brilliant ID's and added info there Dave .. I love the last detail especially .. that is so easy to understand and learn :grin:
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Davy Tee
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Thanks Dave dont mind at all.
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carlos100
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No photos
Just some info required.
Small heaths.
I know there is the small heath and large heath and can recognise the quite large differences ,but I can find some smaller- small heaths(at least half the size in some cases).
Now am I seeing last years older against this years new.
I seem to have it in my mind that a butterfly is what it is.( It emerges full size)
Or am I wrong.
Cheers
Edited by carlos100, Jul 5 2010, 05:39 PM.
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Davebutterflyman
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:hello1: Carl

As this butterfly does not overwinter the specimens that you are comparing are more than likely first and second broods.First broods can be larger than second brood and vice versa plus in some localities ther can also be a third brood.Males and females can in some species be different sizes where normally the female is larger.
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Fantastic photos Davy some beautiful butterflies. :cool: :butterfly:
Brilliant id David loved how you circled it makes it great to see properly. :clap2:
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carlos100
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Thanks Dave.
I have learnt more from you that books and web dont seem to say. :clap2:
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