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| Chris | Sep 6 2011, 11:02 AM Post #301 |
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Thanks, Dave, for your response and I look forward to what Judy has to say in due course.
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| Deleted User | Sep 6 2011, 01:12 PM Post #302 |
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Hi Chris, I will look at those latertoday ![]() In the meantime I am pasting ina post I did last year which will help to get ids done. Not an easy task when trying to do it from photos alone ![]() To ensure some hope of getting your fungi photos identified it is essential for all but the obvious ones such as Fly Agaric to provide as much detail as possible. The basic requirementS :- for fungi with a CAP AND STEM 1 Size - diameter of cap and height of stem. If you are not good at guestimating size and dont carry a ruler a coin placed on or beside the fungus will at least give some point of reference to work from. 2 as well as a photo of the cap it is essential to show the gills and stem. The relationship of the inner end of the gills with the stem is very important in identification - To do this without having to pick the fungus you can carry a small mirror which can be placed strategically under the fungus so that these details can be seen on the single photo of the cap 3. It is extremely helpful if you can take note of where it is growing eg, under pine tree, on soil with moss, in grass, on Birch tree or whatever tree living or dead. BRACKET FUNGI 1 The size a. from side to side b. from back to front c. Thickness 2 A closeup of the pores or gills on the underside. 3. Identification of what it is growing on or a photo if you dont know. Some fungi can only be seperated from other similar species by taking a spore print to discover the colour of the spores which can be diagnostic. Others can only be identified by microscopic exam of the spores and the spore bearing basidia. To take a spore print it is necessary to pick a reasonably mature specimen and to place it Gills or pores down on paper half white and half black for a few hours. When you lift the cap you will see a pattern of very fine dust on the paper. This is the spores. The black paper is to show up the white or very pale spores. The white paper will show the darker coloured ones depending on which species you have.! |
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| Natural Poolie | Sep 6 2011, 01:25 PM Post #303 |
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Some Fungi I hope you can help with ID 1. ![]() 033 by NaturalPoolie, on Flickr 2. ![]() 031 by NaturalPoolie, on Flickr ![]() 032 by NaturalPoolie, on Flickr 3. ![]() 035 by NaturalPoolie, on Flickr ![]() 036 by NaturalPoolie, on Flickr ![]() 038 by NaturalPoolie, on Flickr 4. ![]() 041 by NaturalPoolie, on Flickr 5. ![]() 042 by NaturalPoolie, on Flickr ![]() 043 by NaturalPoolie, on Flickr 6. ![]() 020 by NaturalPoolie, on Flickr 7. ![]() 007 by NaturalPoolie, on Flickr ![]() 006 by NaturalPoolie, on Flickr I now think 1. and 2. are the same |
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| Davebutterflyman | Sep 6 2011, 03:39 PM Post #304 |
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Thanks for postung that info Judy ![]() Some great photos there Paul. A bit tricky without the gill structure but here goes with the ones i know. 5.Hygrocybe pratensis Photos 036 and 038 could be Hygrocybe ceracea. |
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| Deleted User | Sep 6 2011, 05:07 PM Post #305 |
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Chris, yours first 1 Common Puffball 2 Sorry, not L mitissimus which has a convex cap. This one is funnel shaped. Need more info please... a. size. b. where was it growing. ( field, wood, hedge,etc) c, what trees were close by. 3, from the oak leaves on the ground for a start, and the short stem, not R. emetica.. Need a lot more information t id this one properly ( see my post above) as Russulas, like moths, vary in colour and change colour. as they age and according to atmospheric conditions. 4 Sorry, not enough detail, need size , location, gill structure and colour, for this one 5 definitely not enough to id this one ![]() sorry I can't do any better Chris.:grin: |
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| Chris | Sep 6 2011, 06:29 PM Post #306 |
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July, and thanks for confirming the Puffball and posting a copy of the points needed to help with ID's. I'm a absolute novice at photographing and putting names to fungi. With the help of the chart and Nancy's assistance, too, I should get my act together next time. All the pictures (and there are several more of them) were taken in a very old forest of mixed trees and so it is difficult to remember exactly what trees were close by, etc., at the time the photos were taken. However, I'll consult my other half and get back to you with whatever information can be supplied. Thanks for your help and patience. |
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| Deleted User | Sep 6 2011, 07:48 PM Post #307 |
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Paul, some interesting finds there. Iam soryI dont think I can help with the limited information in those photos. Can I refer you to post #295 above and you will see why I am struggling a bit with these.I will have a go with number 1 though as I have a feeling I know that one but it wold help if you can tell me what size it is please and how tall the stem is. |
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| Deleted User | Sep 6 2011, 08:56 PM Post #308 |
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Paul, Number 1 Is probably Entoloma serrulatum but thatis not a positive Id unless I have details of stem and gills. |
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| NBShaz | Sep 6 2011, 11:01 PM Post #309 |
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OK .. and so it begins .... Hope I got the details you need right Judy in the few I have to post .. Paul & Chris .. don't worry I was a beginner last year but learnt so much so very quickly it's a fantastic study .. and with Judy and Dave on hand to give ID's if stuck its a blessing .. but they do need as much detail as possible for correct ID's which is so important with Fungi for obvious reasons .. if they are poisonous .. or ok .. edible .. non edible .. or even fatal. I now have used a tiny piece of sticky velcro on a 5p and on my mobile phone .. that way I will ALWAYS have a 5p on me (as I always have my mobile on me :D ) so if I see Fungi on my travels I have at least that to give rule of size .. if I specifically go out on a Fungi foray .. I now take a ruler with me as you will see in my latest pics .. Keep looking both of you there is lots to remember but you will get the hang of it quite quickly.. if you don't know the name of the tree its growing under or around .. take a photo of the tree too okay .. here we go then :D This I found growing under the bird bath ... 1 ![]() 65mm long ![]() Caps 6-8mm across ![]() Another by bird bath 2 ![]() ![]() ![]() couldnt see any gills as it was spherical .. 3 ![]() 48mm across ![]() 75mm ![]() 4 ![]() 50mm ![]() Gills ![]() Cap 50mm ![]() Thanks in advance :D |
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| Deleted User | Sep 7 2011, 11:23 AM Post #310 |
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Well done Shaz for getting as much info as possible :clap: It makes it so much easier to get a proper Id.Having said that these are provng a bit difficult ![]() 1. Having trouble with this one a bit young to say for sure. Keep an eye on it please and see hw it grows. If it does...... 2. Need this one to grow a bit and expand t get an Id. 3 Not sure on this one ... a bit old but will work on it later. 4 Russula mairei |
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| Chris | Sep 7 2011, 11:28 AM Post #311 |
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We're still working on the extra info that Judy needs for those already posted and more but, in the meantime, here's one that we think is pretty unique and, therefore, easily identifiable. Caesar's Mushroom (Amanita caesarea). Can this be confirmed, please?
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| Deleted User | Sep 7 2011, 12:04 PM Post #312 |
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Hi Chris. Errrmmm......... ![]() It could be A. caesarea, But it could also be Amanita crocea. Difficult to tell until it has expanded. Need to know if it has a stem ring or not and the colour of the stem once extended. Proper minefield this fungi Id A. caesarea will have yellow gills and there will be a ring on the stem. If A. crocea (Orange Grisette) it will have no ring on the stem and the edges of the cap when expanded will be furrowed. Another problem with fungi id is that unlike plants and animals Latin names are not a lot of help as lot of fungi have two or three synonyms. Different authors using their own preferred name. The Micheal Jordan book does at least list synonyms, this is why I always use at least four reference books at any one time when doing fungi Ids. |
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| Natural Poolie | Sep 7 2011, 12:26 PM Post #313 |
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Hi Judy - No.1 stem is about an inch tall, 2 inches diameter and is in an open field/meadow, growing with grass, Dandelion and Clover No2. I think is No1 but opened out more |
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| Chris | Sep 7 2011, 12:57 PM Post #314 |
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Well, Judy, our current very big French mushroom/fungi book (312 pages, 256 beautiful illustrations) is no good at all because it doesn't include Amanita crocea, which is why we thought A. caesarea was unique. It's obvious we need to get a new, better book asap. We'll try and go back to where we found all the mushrooms and see if we can find this one and many of the others again but it's unlikely we'll do so since edible mushroom picking is all the rage around here and people are early in the morning before we get there. Until we can get our act together we'll just post pics of the ones that we think there's a fair chance of identification or which have a reasonable number of clues to help with the ID. Thanks for your patience. |
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| Deleted User | Sep 7 2011, 01:18 PM Post #315 |
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No prob Chris
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| Chris | Sep 9 2011, 05:17 PM Post #316 |
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Judy & Co, here's a polypore mushroom with, I hope, all the info needed to obtain an ID. If I had to guess I'd say it was Trametes versicolor. |
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| Davebutterflyman | Sep 9 2011, 06:21 PM Post #317 |
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I have had a look Chris and can't find one that matches yours as yet. |
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| feedyourhedgehog | Sep 9 2011, 11:49 PM Post #318 |
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Looking at all the other posts I can see I should've given an indication of size and a view of the gills I'll put them up just in case The second one we thought might be field mushrooms as they had the brown gills and actually smelled like a mushroom |
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| Deleted User | Sep 10 2011, 12:42 AM Post #319 |
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Chris, Well done, and thank you for getting the info needed. it makes it so much quicker and easier.That I would say is Inonotus rheades. Not T.versicolor. That is much much smaller and thinner and grows on deadwood. Paula. I will see what I can do with yours as well in the morning. |
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| Chris | Sep 10 2011, 07:34 AM Post #320 |
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Many thanks, Judy, and it's another one that's not in our French mushroom/fungi book. Is it found in the UK and therefore eligible for the Fungi Challenge, please? again.
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July, and thanks for confirming the Puffball and posting a copy of the points needed to help with ID's. I'm a absolute novice at photographing and putting names to fungi. With the help of the chart and Nancy's assistance, too, I should get my act together next time. 
Paul & Chris .. don't worry I was a beginner last year but learnt so much so very quickly it's a fantastic study .. and with Judy and Dave on hand to give ID's if stuck its a blessing .. but they do need as much detail as possible for correct ID's which is so important with Fungi for obvious reasons .. if they are poisonous .. or ok .. edible .. non edible .. or even fatal.













It makes it so much easier to get a proper Id.
It's obvious we need to get a new, better book asap.
early in the morning before we get there.

Is it found in the UK and therefore eligible for the Fungi Challenge, please?
again.
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