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Topic Started: Dec 8 2006, 08:31 AM (13,646 Views)
alxbly
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Agreed. So, you guys know my gaming tastes... what should I be looking out for on Wii?

Here's my Wii collection:

Elebits
Endless Ocean
Ghost Squad
Harvest Moon Magical Melody
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Links Crossbow Training
Mario Kart Wii
Metroid Prime 3
No More Heroes
Okami
RE4
RE: Umbrella Chronicles
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Paper Mario
Trauma Center
Wii Sports
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I think MadWorld should be a jolly good romp. :wub:

I had pre-ordered House of the Dead Overkill and Deadly Creatures a while ago now... rather antsy about those. :pika:
Now Playing: Clash Royale (mobile), Gravity Rush 2, Rayman Legends, Project CARS, Uncharted 4 Survival Mode ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
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House of the Dead Overkill sounds like it could be good. I'd thought about House of the Dead but (if I remember rightly) Mop wasn't overly impressed with it. To be honest, RE: Umbrella Chronicles is probably as much on-rails shooter as I'll ever get around to playing. >_<
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You shall purchase BATTALION WARS II! I haven't played it yet, but I don't need to in order to realize that it is pure, unadulterated awesomity.

So, uh, is Mario Kart the only Mario spin-off that you like?

That's about all I can say right now, I'd need some time to think about this. More like I'd need to be conscious, since it is almost 6AM here. Sun's going to be coming up in about an hour. Why... can't... I... go.. to... bed... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Feb 8 2009, 04:44 AM
You shall purchase BATTALION WARS II! I haven't played it yet, but I don't need to in order to realize that it is pure, unadulterated awesomity.

So, uh, is Mario Kart the only Mario spin-off that you like?

That's about all I can say right now, I'd need some time to think about this. More like I'd need to be conscious, since it is almost 6AM here. Sun's going to be coming up in about an hour. Why... can't... I... go.. to... bed... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Sleep is for girls. ;)

Battalion Wars II? I'm not sure. I didn't really get into the first Battalion Wars so I'm not sure that the sequel will be any different.

As for Mario spin-offs... I like Mario Kart and Paper Mario (both Wii versions left me cold, though). I'd probably buy Mario Tennis/Golf if it had good motion controls. Mario Party I've not touched since Mario Party 4... what are the Wii Mario Parties like?

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Feb 8 2009, 04:53 AM
Battalion Wars II? I'm not sure. I didn't really get into the first Battalion Wars so I'm not sure that the sequel will be any different.
What was it about the first game that made it difficult to get into? Maybe it has been fixed in the sequel... though I don't see how you could have a problem with it to begin with. You shoot people with the ground troops, fry people with the flame troops, use rocket and missile launchers, take command of tanks, drop bombs from planes... with so much variety, what isn't there to like?

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I'd thought about House of the Dead but (if I remember rightly) Mop wasn't overly impressed with it.

Nope. Then again I'm not much for shooters, I just wanted to have a mindless game around in case I was ever in the mood for it. There isn't really anything wrong with the game, but there's nothing special about it either; it's just average. It might be worth it if you can find it cheap and play it co-op with someone, but otherwise there probably are (or will be) better arcade-style shooters on Wii.

The reason I asked about the Mario spin-offs is because that's about the only thing which you don't have that I own. I don't think that Mario Strikers Charged and Mario Super Sluggers would be your thing though.

I'm sure you've heard that they are re-releasing the GameCube's Mario Power Tennis on Wii with Wii controls, although I don't think a European release date has been announced yet. It's kind of a shame that this likely means there won't be a sequel anytime soon... but I never bought the original so I plan to purchase the Wiimake when it is released. I'll be sure to let you know how well it plays. :)
I'm also worried that this means they're going to re-release Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour as opposed to a new version of that. :(

There is just one Mario Party on Wii, Mario Party 8. I'm kind of surprised there's been no mention of a Mario Party 9 yet... Anyways, I own MP3, 7, and 8, and despite their being so many of them they really aren't that much different, although 7 and 8 do have more variety. In 8, each of the six game boards has its own unique goal of collecting stars; it could be reaching the end of the single-path board, investing coins in hotels Monopoly style, and even swiping them from other players.

The main part of the game is really the mini-games, and they vary greatly in terms of enjoyment and creativity. Only about half use either motion or pointer controls; the others have you hold the controller NES-style and use just the buttons. This seems like a bit of a wasted effort, as the move to Wii was the perfect time to revamp the series. The luck-based games, such as one where you simply choose a card and hope you get the highest number, are annoying and tedious; you'll be hoping they never show up. The games which use the pointer are a little more creative, such as using it to place toppings on a cake or spray paint shapes on a rock. Games which use motions tend to be simple, such as using waggle to scrub a chain chomp clean, while a few are more creative, such as using the Wiimote to balance your character on a tight-rope walk. The NES-controller minigames are your standard Mario Party fair, such as jumping over obstacles or punching your foes off a platform.

MP8 does, however, contain the best minigame in any Mario Party. Let me tell you a quick little story...

A while ago, I was playing Mario Party 8 with my brother and two of our friends. It was a calm night, and we had all had a few beers and were getting a little tired. It's the end of the turn, the minigame wheel spins and lands on Shake It Up. In this minigame, you have to "shake" the Wiimote up and down as fast as you can to shake up the can of soda on the screen, to get it to "squirt" the highest.

It wasn't until halfway through the minigame, as we watched each other rapidly shaking our Wiimotes in our laps, that the innuendo of this game donned on us. At that point, we just lost it; we all burst out laughing until our eyes filled with tears. I can't even remember who won the minigame, I was laughing so hard, though I think we all truly lost. Clearly, Shake it Up is the best Mario Party minigame ever created.

Any game which can cause a moment like that is certainly worth owning. :yeah:

Plus it has Toad and Birdo as playable characters, that alone should be enough to warrant a purchase.
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Feb 8 2009, 05:02 PM
What was it about the first game that made it difficult to get into? Maybe it has been fixed in the sequel... though I don't see how you could have a problem with it to begin with. You shoot people with the ground troops, fry people with the flame troops, use rocket and missile launchers, take command of tanks, drop bombs from planes... with so much variety, what isn't there to like?

I thought it was pretty dull and quite easy. It's not a bad game but it just didn't appeal to me. I've still got Battalion Wars. If I eevr get around to playing it then, and only then, might I consider the sequel.

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Then again I'm not much for shooters, I just wanted to have a mindless game around in case I was ever in the mood for it. There isn't really anything wrong with the game, but there's nothing special about it either; it's just average.

Yeah, I've already got Resident Evil Umbrella Chronciles, which sounds like the better game, and the also quite average Ghost Squad. I don't need any more on-rails shooters.

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I'm sure you've heard that they are re-releasing the GameCube's Mario Power Tennis on Wii with Wii controls, although I don't think a European release date has been announced yet. It's kind of a shame that this likely means there won't be a sequel anytime soon... but I never bought the original so I plan to purchase the Wiimake when it is released. I'll be sure to let you know how well it plays. :)

Just checked and "Play Control" Mario Power Tennis does have a European release date: 6th March 2009. I never bought Mario Power Tennis so this game interests me as well! This might be my next Wii purchase. :D

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I'm also worried that this means they're going to re-release Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour as opposed to a new version of that. :(

Yeah, that seems quite likely. Unless Mario Tennis sells badly.

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There is just one Mario Party on Wii, Mario Party 8.

It sounds alright... I've still got reservations about the series though. I'll see if I can rent it first. :)

I almost, almost bought the first Wii game in six months or longer. I seen Animal Crossing again... for £30. I'm tempted but it's similarity to the others in the series is putting me off paying so much for it. But... still... I might. :D

Are you still more tempted by the DS Animal Crossing?
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Feb 8 2009, 06:14 PM
I thought it was pretty dull and quite easy.
The challenge comes from trying for the best ranking, because then you really need to think about unit conservation and the fastest way to take out enemies. I suppose that makes it a sort of "high score" game, which I can see how that would turn someone off.

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Just checked and "Play Control" Mario Power Tennis does have a European release date: 6th March 2009.

Man, even Europe gets the game before North America. That's just not fair! ;_;

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Unless Mario Tennis sells badly.

80,000 copies during its first week in Japan. That's probably good enough for a return already. It was also really high up on the most pre-orders list on Amazon.

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Are you still more tempted by the DS Animal Crossing?

I'm tempted by the GameCube Animal Crossing because it is cheaper. I'm also not so sure if I'd use the online features of the game; is either DS or Wii version region-restricted?
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Are you still more tempted by the DS Animal Crossing?

I'm tempted by the GameCube Animal Crossing because it is cheaper. I'm also not so sure if I'd use the online features of the game; is either DS or Wii version region-restricted?
I dunno about the DS game, but I suspect the Wii version might be region gimped. It's got a different name in the UK; Animal Crossing: Let's Go To The City.

I hate when they change the name. We already got f***ing "Eledees" instead of "Elebits". Why? Maybe because it rhymes with tits? I've no idea... ^_^
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Hey alxbly, you don't like on rail shooters but you got Ghost Squad? :lol: House of the Dead should be neat as far as on rail shooters go. Maybe Disaster could be a good rental for you. How about Prince of Persia: Rival Swords? Oh I liked Star Wars: Force Unleashed on Wii.

I don't know about you, but I enjoyed Tomb Raider Anniversary on Wii. Actually, it's about the best TR game I've played considering I've played and finished only 3 of them... :-8 I'd rank them:

Anniversary (Wii)
Legends (GC)
Underworld (Wii)

In all seriousness, I've got this huge pile of Wii games that I don't remember a lot of the games. I'll have to go back and see what's what and make more recommendations.

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This is going to sound crazy but you have to give Judgment at least a rental. AT THE VERY LEAST! I played this game expecting some real crummy effort but turned out to be a solid game. It's not the best by a long shot, but these reviews out there are 100% just plain wrong. It's almost as if Konami paid them all to bury their game.

Zack and Wiki should be nice too though it's got that mini-games style play. It isn't too bad, but at times gets frustrating.

If you don't own it on another system yet, Godfather: Blackhand Edition isn't too bad. I could not get myself to try Driv3r or Scarface (played the PC version and didn't like it). Godfather's plot is doomed to fail at the end (logic-wise), but the gameplay itself I think is pretty okay.
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Feb 8 2009, 09:05 PM
Hey alxbly, you don't like on rail shooters but you got Ghost Squad? :lol:
I didn't say that I don't like on-rail shooters. :P

But I do find them to be very similar. Ghost Squad I thought would be different enough from RE:Umbrella Chronicles to be worthwhile. It is quite different but not in a good way... :huh: That it looks like an early Dreamcast game probably doesn't help but it did make me really appreciate RE: Umbrella Chronicles polished look. House of the Dead is another Sega port (like Ghost Squad) so I'm a bit apprehensive. I'm not sure if it'll be sufficiently different (or better than) RE:UC to make buying it worthwhile.

Tomb Raider/Force Unleashed/Rival Swords - I've played all of these on other platforms (the Wii versions don't seem to get as good scores as on other platforms). I might try renting some though. I've not tried out Tomb Raider Underworld, except from a quick play of the Xbox 360 demo. I'm sad to hear it's not as good as the other Tomb Raiders, it looked like Eidos had turned the series around for a while.

Judgement - I've never heard of this. I can't find it on GameFAQs... :unsure:

Zack and Wiki - I'm really keen to try this out. Everyone that's played it seems to like it. :)
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Feb 9 2009, 12:46 PM
Judgement - I've never heard of this. I can't find it on GameFAQs... :unsure:
My guess on that is he was referring to Castlevania: Judgement. It's gotten a mixed reception and the classic complaint that "it isn't a real Castlevania game", which I know you just love to hear.
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Feb 9 2009, 06:39 PM
My guess on that is he was referring to Castlevania: Judgement. It's gotten a mixed reception and the classic complaint that "it isn't a real Castlevania game", which I know you just love to hear.
Oh. So... it doesn't have Dracula in it? :unsure: :mellow: I've not really followed the Castlevania series, it's been seriously hit or miss.
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http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10104604&sourceid=1500000000000003142040&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=10104604

Looks good. Includes Karous, Chaos Field, and Radio Allergy. Weren't they the last shooters available for the Dreamcast... years after it went out of production. Radio Allergy was also out on Gamecube, I think. But not in the UK. <_<
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Tomb Raider/Force Unleashed/Rival Swords - I've played all of these on other platforms (the Wii versions don't seem to get as good scores as on other platforms). I might try renting some though. I've not tried out Tomb Raider Underworld, except from a quick play of the Xbox 360 demo. I'm sad to hear it's not as good as the other Tomb Raiders, it looked like Eidos had turned the series around for a while.

Judgement - I've never heard of this. I can't find it on GameFAQs... :unsure:

Zack and Wiki - I'm really keen to try this out. Everyone that's played it seems to like it. :)
Tomb Raider Anniversary deserves a look. It's pretty respectable. Underworld isn't as good but that's because of the glitches Buzz Monkey software let slip and the fact that they purposely scaled back the graphics on the Wii version (going as far as removing graphical detail that was there on Legends [GC] and Anniversary [Wii]). Also the enemies in Underworld were reduced to like 1 % of the standard SKUs. Almost devoid of enemies. While I don't particularly mind, they will bug most gamers. Underworld to me is a sleazy port.

Force Unleashed on the Wii is completely different from the 360 game. I should know as I've played Force Unleashed on the DS, Wii and 360. In my opinion, I like the Wii gameplay more than the 360 version so I think it merits at least a rent. As far as Rival Swords go, I've never played Two Thrones, so I guess that counts as most likely a retread.

Castlevania: Judgment is a mixed bag of good things and bad ones. But if you stick through it, you'll see they made a solid first entry into a new genre. I've been quite out of the loop as far as Castlevania games and Judgment to me is a welcome addition. Also, the fact that you're not a fan might at least keep your mind opened (unlike 90% of the reviewers who seem to think there's a formula for a Castlevania branded game). At the end of the day, it has its flaws, but it's not game breaking. Not by a long shot.

Zack and Wiki is a very thoroughly planned and executed original Wii title by Capcom and it really is pretty good as far as adventure titles go. It can get testy at times when you don't "get" what the developers want you to do, but over all, it's a solid effort.
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I believe Radio Allergy was the last licensed GameCube release in Japan, but was canceled in other regions. Being the last release probably would have been its only claim to fame.
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http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10104604&sourceid=1500000000000003142040&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=10104604

Looks good. Includes Karous, Chaos Field, and Radio Allergy. Weren't they the last shooters available for the Dreamcast... years after it went out of production. Radio Allergy was also out on Gamecube, I think. But not in the UK. <_<
Radio Allergy was, I believe the last gamecube game to get released. The game was Japan only and the US released got axed, I think.
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^OLD'D.

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^_^

Tomb Raider Anniversary I've already got for the 360. I might rent Force Unleashed to see if the Wii controls make it any better. I did try it briefly in a store but was too embarrased to play it properly. Vigour and violence are necessary when using the wiimote sometimes... but not in public, lol. That didn't stop the kid in front of me though. ^_^

So, any Wii-specific games I should try? De Blob looks good. Koripima (or whatever it's called) and Mercury Meltdown have been on my "will buy when cheap" list. :)
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I've heard good things about Deadly Creatures but I haven't exactly played it, so I can't tell.
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Feb 9 2009, 07:25 PM
Mercury Meltdown have been on my "will buy when cheap" list. :)
$20 isn't cheap enough for you?
Funny you mention that as I just ordered it from eBay earlier today, for $16 shipped. I'll try to poast some impressions of it after I've played it. :)
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Is Mercury Meltdown $20 in the US? Here in Belgium it's been €50 since release, and it was only ever cheaper when it was on sale (it's almost impossible to find now). I bought it for €50.
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Yep, Mercury Meltdown Revolution is $20 here. Since it is a port of a PSP game I do believe it has been $20 since its launch. You got hosed! :o
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It seemed to only get one PAL print run, so the price didn't come down. Now it's sold out everywhere but I might get a used copy.
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Has it always been the same as a full-priced game since its launch? It seems strange how they would charge so much more for it over there. Was the PSP original never released in PAL or something?
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Feb 10 2009, 07:58 PM
Has it always been the same as a full-priced game since its launch? It seems strange how they would charge so much more for it over there. Was the PSP original never released in PAL or something?
The PSP version got released here as well.

On the Wii, it cost £29.99 new, most Wii games are between £29.99 and £39.99. Most PS3/Xbox games are between £34.99 and £44.99. The lowest price I seen Mercury Meltdown for new was £25, which was still too much.

But I could get a used copy of the game for about £10-£15. I just need to find one in good condition.
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Has it always been the same as a full-priced game since its launch? It seems strange how they would charge so much more for it over there. Was the PSP original never released in PAL or something?
The PSP version got released here as well.

On the Wii, it cost £29.99 new, most Wii games are between £29.99 and £39.99. Most PS3/Xbox games are between £34.99 and £44.99. The lowest price I seen Mercury Meltdown for new was £25, which was still too much.

But I could get a used copy of the game for about £10-£15. I just need to find one in good condition.
The same applies for the Euro prices basically, Mercury Meltdown was €50 when it came out, like most Wii games (with very few exceptions, like Zelda which was €60). PS3/360 games are €60, with a few exceptions like Banjo-Kazooie which was €50. I never saw MMR below €40, and that was just before it became sold out everywhere. I bought it at full price because I was starving for a new game to play and the only other choice was Mario Strikers Charged - which I rented, back when renting was still legal here, and did not like.
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The Wii, I think, was too easy to hack and was hacked a few weeks after launch I believe

That's probably why Nintendo have altered their privacy policy stating that they may check for and remove hacks on any Wii system without notifying the user. If they can't prevent it they'll just remove it as they come to it.

Anyways, here's some more Wii news:

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=17742

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The holiday season is usually a jolly one for video game companies, but not this year, and not for EA. The gaming giant just reported a loss of $641 million during their fiscal third quarter. Following the release of this information, EA CEO John Riccitiello stated that in order to increase profits and decrease loss the company would restructure their business plan and bring more publishing support to the Wii.

One way EA plans to gain Wii marketshare is by bringing over "core intellectual property" to the Wii, notably their Dead Space franchise. They will also be creating titles dedicated to what they see as a consumer "fascination with fitness," an effort spearheaded by a new EA tennis franchise within the EA Sports brand.

Riccitiello stated that EA's ultimate goal is to bring titles to the Wii that "rival Nintendo" themselves, aiming to become noticed on the Wii in a way that no other third-party publisher has. Since the Wii is regarded as the market leader, he promised that the Wii would receive "half [EA's] emphasis in terms of title counts."

Riccitiello ended his statement saying, "You live, you learn, you adjust and improve." With their plans to bring more support and titles to the Wii he stated that "this year's title slate is a significant improvement from last year."

All I can say is that it's about f*cking time!
Except... for some reason, there's something about the wording in this article which makes it seem like they're simply going to increase the number of shovelware titles for Wii rather than actually putting in more effort.
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Does anyone have any idea about this game??
http://217.199.176.105/popcorn/?cat=27

Screens look pretty good!

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Okay, it doesn't look as good in motion. Maybe we need an updated trailer as it isn't done yet.
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Feb 16 2009, 08:30 PM
Does anyone have any idea about this game??
http://217.199.176.105/popcorn/?cat=27

Screens look pretty good!

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Okay, it doesn't look as good in motion. Maybe we need an updated trailer as it isn't done yet.
Reminds me of a mech battling game called Vortex for the Super NES, so... *yawns*

Popcorn Arcade? Never heard of it. What is with that list of games in that link anyway? I know Anubis II got really terrible review scores... fortunately I don't think there was an Anubis I. Another sequel that doesn't have a predecessor is Rig Racer 2: there is no Rig Racer 1. Unless... is this the spiritual successor to Big Rigs? Review scores seem to suggest that it is.

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Elebits
Harvest Moon Magical Melody
Links Crossbow Training
No More Heroes
Okami
Super Paper Mario
Trauma Center

What are your thoughts on these games? I can't remember if you've really mentioned them before... A bit of a request, I know, but I have been reading up on them and I was just wondering what your opinion was.
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