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| niniendowarrior | May 31 2009, 11:38 PM Post #571 |
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Just got word from the shop service technicians where I bought my Wii and apparently the lens is dead. Good job Nintendo. About the scratching, it can happen for a variety of reasons and yes dirty lens is a cause of scratching. When the lens needs extra passes to read, it can not only strain the lens but also the surface of the disc if it's too excessive, at least from what I know anyway. Another cause is if the disc is not aligned flatly with respect to the lens. You are also right though that misaligned lens is also a cause but from here on out, better keep a close ear at your Wii. If you hear a "thud" sound while loading anything, that means the Wii is trying harder than usual to read it and that it's going to try and re-read again. If you hear that sound a couple more times, then that's a bad sign. |
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| alxbly | Jun 1 2009, 01:52 AM Post #572 |
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Did you try contacting Nintendo directly? I suspect they'd want to bill you for a repair but it might be worth a shot anyway. How old is your Wii? |
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| niniendowarrior | Jun 1 2009, 05:41 AM Post #573 |
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I think I got it in 2007. Not sure... but that's what I remember. Out of warranty, that's for sure and there is just no way I'm even going to bother contacting Nintendo especially after I've grovelled on my knees at them back when my Gamecube was under warranty and broken... ... they repeatedly denied to fix it, they repeatedly denied to help me find anyway of getting it fixed. I went down to the point of even paying for the repairs and they were just a bunch of arseholes about it. Nope. I like their games, but their support stinks. |
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| Mop it up | Jun 1 2009, 07:26 PM Post #574 |
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Just out of curiosity, did you have your system horizontally or vertically? |
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| niniendowarrior | Jun 1 2009, 10:01 PM Post #575 |
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It's vertically placed. I don't want to leave accessories unused. Here is the little devil that's been turning my game discs into coasters. It's working great now. Played Super Smash Bros Brawl on the shop as a demo (must be the guy's personal copy), and played Galaxy at home. Works okay. Now I can rest easy a bit. 
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| Mop it up | Jun 2 2009, 02:05 AM Post #576 |
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I can't tell what that is in the picture. I suspect that placing the system vertically puts more strain on the disc spinner because it defies physics, so I never set it like that. |
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| niniendowarrior | Jun 2 2009, 05:18 AM Post #577 |
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That is the disc lens. I can of course take a closer picture if you really want to see more of it. Nasty little thing's been scratching my games. |
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| alxbly | Jun 4 2009, 04:14 PM Post #578 |
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BLACK WII!!!! Gimme, gimme this now! http://www.joystiq.com/2009/06/04/nintendo-releasing-black-wii-red-dsi-this-summer/ http://www.joystiq.com/2009/06/04/capcom-bundling-monster-hunter-3-with-black-wii-in-japan/ I really, really, really, really, really want a black Wii. But I'l wait for a PAL release. And wait... and wait... and wait... 
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| Mop it up | Jun 4 2009, 04:49 PM Post #579 |
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 Yeah, it's confirmed only for Japan right now so I wouldn't get set on seeing it anytime soon. Japan needs a sales boost but other territories are still doing fine. I'm still holding out for a pink Wii so I guess I've got a while to wait... |
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| Chaos66 | Jun 16 2009, 04:44 PM Post #580 |
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Holy balls! I hope it comes out in the US soon so I can get the black controller. The Wii needs to have more colors like the n64 did Edited by Chaos66, Jun 17 2009, 10:23 AM.
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| alxbly | Jun 22 2009, 12:28 PM Post #581 |
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The Conduit reviews are starting to filter through, although so far it's only the licensed Nintendo publications that have reviewed it: http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/947068-the-conduit/index.html To put early scores in context: Nintendo Power - 8/10. They gave the same score to Call of Duty: World at War for the Wii but rated Metroid Prime Corruption much higher (10/10). Official Nintendo Magazine UK - 76/100. They scored both Call of Duty (92/100) and Metroid Prime Corruption (94/100) much higher. So early indications are that it's a decent FPS but probably not the best shooter available on the Wii. 
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| niniendowarrior | Jun 23 2009, 09:01 PM Post #582 |
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The last thing I go to for opinions of a Wii game is a review site. Wii games never get a fair shake. Bash the Wii. That's the way reviewers go. Of all of them, the one that has the most 'I get it' is IGN... and even they are way off. All of those so-called game media have lost credibility with me. This has been something I've realized years ago. I've played great games that maybe were not perfect, but were pretty darn good and only to hear about stupid complaints from reviewers. Anyway, my two cents. I give more weight to people's opinions than these writers. Then again, I give more weight on what I see in the game than anything else. |
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| Neptune | Jun 24 2009, 09:08 AM Post #583 |
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I'll probably be picking up The Conduit today. I've been waiting for a good shooter that takes full advantage of the Wii controller for a while now. I ignore the score part of reviews in favor of actually reading the text; The only criticism that I even care about is the possibility of lag if you get a bad host, and I've already come to expect that with the Wii. |
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| alxbly | Jun 24 2009, 11:54 AM Post #584 |
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I'd have expected the review bias to go the other way in this example. The score was 8/10 based on two reviews from official Nintendo publications; they're unlikely to want to bash the Wii in the way other sites might. And I say might, as I don't agree that all Wii games are unfairly reviewed. I don't think reviews are the be-all and end-all either, but they are one of the things I look at to gauge whether I'll buy a game at release or not. But let's not get the pessimistic vibe... it got 8/10, which means it's probably gonna be a pretty good shooter. I'm still looking forward to trying it out.  Further review scores are between 70%-90%... it's seems to be doing pretty well with those mean journalists!http://www.joystiq.com/2009/06/24/metareview-the-conduit-wii/ Time to revive "Quote of the week"! |
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| Mop it up | Jul 3 2009, 10:17 AM Post #585 |
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I aim to please! I can't turn down a request. In any case, The Conduit has many parallels to Goldeneye. I'd think that would be enough to get Alxbly interested. |
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| niniendowarrior | Jul 3 2009, 09:03 PM Post #586 |
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Why thank you Mop and alxbly!  On Conduit, I have played the first two levels and it's pretty good. I won't say I'm completely blown away, but who would be? It's a first person shooter that doesn't aim to really reinvent the wheel. |
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| Mop it up | Jul 4 2009, 01:07 AM Post #587 |
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The funny thing about The Conduit is that it follows the Halo model so it actually is trying to be generic. It also puts focus on graphics over gameplay and they sacrificed features in order to better the graphics. If you think about it the game kind of spits in the face of the philosophy of the Wii. I doubt I'll be buying it. |
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| Neptune | Jul 4 2009, 01:44 AM Post #588 |
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I've beaten the single player of The Conduit 100%, and played a lot of multiplayer. I guess I'll share my thoughts. The single player has a deep storyline, with only a fraction of it presented directly. You're expected to uncover the real truth using Google or Wikipedia out of game if you so desire. The gameplay itself has some annoying mechanics, respawning enemies and "biological locks" come to mind. I think despite its flaws, the gameplay is solid, my biggest complaint is that it ends too soon. The music is fantastic. The graphics were hyped up beyond belief, and the game simply didn't live up to that. Some things look very good, and I mean VERY good, such as wall textures, gun models, and lighting. Unfortunately, this was balanced with some low resolution objects and surfaces. This inconsistency, as well as an apparent lack of art direction makes for a somewhat ugly game. This engine has a lot of potential, but it hasn't been fully utilised yet. The controls are the best on the Wii, there is no question about it. Quite literally, if they had allowed an option to switch crouch between toggle/hold they would be perfect. The multiplayer can best be described by "when it works, it works good." I'm not going to say anything about the prevalence of lag other than it's P2P and Nintendo. The good news is that the game is still playable with laggers in the bunch, or if you lag. There is no "lag shooting" like in CoD Wii. If a hit connects of your screen, it will register, though it may take a second or two if there is severe lag. This can lead to a lot of encounters where both parties end up dead. There are two glitches that are quite bad, the partially loaded map, where you're a ghost and have to either reset or wait until the next game, and the teamkill glitch where the game gets confused about whether someone is an ally or an enemy. It should also be noted that this game isn't coded very well, which makes it easy to hack. My overall conclusion is that this game is fun but flawed, and The Conduit 2 is going to be amazing. |
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| alxbly | Jul 4 2009, 02:49 AM Post #589 |
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It is and I am. I'm just waiting for the game to come down in price a little before I buy it. Neptune: Thanks for your thoughts on The Conduit. It sounds like the multiplayer is somehwat broken but I doubt I'd do more than try it a few times because I'm not so bothered about online play these days. From what I've seen and heard, the single player seems like a lot of fun and I'm looking forward to this game quite a bit now. When the hype machine was in full swing I was a bit dubious that The Conduit would live up to it... but I don't care. If it's a good game that's all I need to know. I was in a store yesterday and seen the Wiimotion Plus. I didn't realize that they were for sale already... guess I thought they were releasing at the same time as Wii Sports Resort. But there's already two games that it's being bundled with in the UK; Virtua Tennis and Tiger Woods PGA Tour. I was quite tempted to get Tiger Woods to see what it's like...
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| Mop it up | Jul 4 2009, 10:44 AM Post #590 |
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I can't remember if I brought this up in the E3 thread or not. Nintendo has launched the Wii Motion Plus with third-party games as a way to encourage them to use the accessory. |
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| dataDyne | Jul 4 2009, 07:13 PM Post #591 |
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I can't wait for The Conduit. Sadly I don't think I'll be able to buy it at release (July 16th - almost one month after NA release  ), but nonetheless it's certainly my most-wanted Wii game at the moment. I hope that just about every Wii owner around the world buys this game, so both Nintendo and third-party developers see that we're starving for something other than shovelware party games on the Wii. Apparently the game made it into Amazon's Top 25 best sellers list, which is really encouraging news. |
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Give this man a fish, and he can throw it up eleven times -alxbly PSN: LifeIsPreachy Mario Kart Wii: 0088 - 2869 - 9843 | |
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| Chaos66 | Jul 5 2009, 04:36 PM Post #592 |
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I'm gonna get it on eBay, they have been selling from 10 to $20 cheaper than at the stores. But first I have to sell some stuff. |
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| alxbly | Jul 5 2009, 07:09 PM Post #593 |
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"Marvelous looking into HD ports of Wii games "Wii has no hardcore games" is about as old, lame and untrue as "the PS3 has no games," and "Xbox 360 has only shooters." Real gamers know that each of the platforms has its gems -- but not everyone can afford all three gaming consoles. Marvelous may be expanding its portfolio to include more non-Nintendo systems. Already, the publisher is working on a PS3 and Xbox 360 game, Rainy Woods; however, according to a report by Siliconera, the publisher may look into porting some of its diverse Wii lineup onto the HD systems. Games like No More Heroes and the upcoming Muramasa would certainly appeal to the hardcore PlayStation and Xbox crowds. In fact, Suda 51's most recent comments suggest an HD future for his franchise. With just a little bit of polish, those two could easily transform from good-looking Wii games into gorgeous PS3 and 360 titles". From: http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07/02/marvelous-looking-into-hd-ports-of-wii-games/ Could this have been triggered by recent motion sensing tech that Sony and MS have unveiled? |
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| Marktheshark | Jul 5 2009, 07:41 PM Post #594 |
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Ehhhh, I don't think so. Marvelous is bringing them over because a lot of their Wii games don't sell that much. However, I don't think this move will result in a drastic increase of sales. |
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| Chaos66 | Jul 7 2009, 12:42 AM Post #595 |
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HOLY CRAP! The conduit doesn't have split screen multiplayer! What kind of retard doesn't put that in. that pretty much ruined this game for me, so I probably won't get it. |
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| dataDyne | Jul 7 2009, 02:31 AM Post #596 |
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Yeah, I'm really disappointed that it doesn't have traditional multiplayer. I also had my fingers crossed for single-player deathmatches with bots, but oh well. I'm still really excited about this game. |
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Give this man a fish, and he can throw it up eleven times -alxbly PSN: LifeIsPreachy Mario Kart Wii: 0088 - 2869 - 9843 | |
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| Mop it up | Jul 13 2009, 02:08 AM Post #597 |
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I have mixed feelings about The Conduit. On the one hand, it is great that a developer is willing to put a good amount of effort into a Wii game, one that's exclusive no less. But they're also putting graphics before gameplay, which sort of spits in the face of the Wii. Or any Nintendo system really. |
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| alxbly | Jul 13 2009, 12:05 PM Post #598 |
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Like all things, it's easy to jump to conclusions but maybe split screen just didn't work? Maybe too much needed to be stripped back in order for it to work? Maybe the developers thought the extra time and cash needed to develop split screen multi just wasn't worth it? We'll probably never know. It does seem like split screen FPS's have always been regarded as "second best" though, and that's probably down to PC gamers FPS snobbery. I definitely prefer a full screen to myself but split screen does add another dynamic to FPS's because you can always quickly place where your opponent is. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, it's just a different way to play (in the same way "capture the flag" is different from "team deathmatch" but people don't get snobbish in the same way about either of those modes). It seems like a lot of games have dispensed with split screen... I never even noticed until I was recently looking for something for that a friend and I could play together (and not on Wii). It's crazy, even recent racing games (in my mind THE best genre for split screen) have ditched the feature. Online seems to dominate, which is both good and sad at the same time. But the fact that it's taken me this long to realize that split screen is on the way out should maybe tell me something.... that it's not a feature that I'll miss all that often?  One last question for everyone... is there anyone in the world who would thinks that a third party Wii classic controller should be shaped like a PSP???? 
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| Neptune | Jul 13 2009, 06:37 PM Post #599 |
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Mop, why are you so concerned about Wii philosophy? The Wii isn't about bad graphics just for the hell of it. It's a weak console, but nobody wants developers to ignore the graphics of their games. If Mario Galaxy is any indication, the intention is to push the system to its limits despite any shortcomings. Furthermore, nobody at Nintendo is complaining about HVS spitting in their faces, why should you? The fact is that The Conduit is a 3rd party game, and any conceived notions that you have about how a Nintendo product should be simply don't apply. The Conduit isn't about putting graphics before gameplay, it's simply a standard, generic, Halo-like FPS on a console that hasn't had one yet. It's little more than a market test, and a beta for future HVS games. |
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| alxbly | Jul 16 2009, 05:45 PM Post #600 |
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Damn. http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07/16/nintendo-has-no-plans-for-black-wii-in-us/ And damn. My hopes for a lovely black Wii are still on hold. No news on Europe, but if it ain't coming to the US yet...
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