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Bill S.978
Tweet Topic Started: Jul 9 2011, 07:48 AM (519 Views)
Kerr Avon	Jul 9 2011, 07:48 AM Post #1
Senior Member Posts: 560 Group: Senior Members Member #52 Joined: December 13, 2006	The American government is considering a new bill (law): "It [this law] would make unauthorized streaming of copyrighted material a felony. The penalty could include up to five years of prison-time. It defines illegal streaming as streaming ten or more times in a 180 day period. Furthermore, the value of the illegally streamed material would have to be greater than $2,500, or the licensing fees would have to be over $5,000. There is some concern as to whether the bill would affect those streaming video games, and posting videos on YouTube. However, the bill does not directly address this.[2] Although it is unknown whether the law would be enforced as such, there has been an outcry against the bill on YouTube, and other such video streaming sites.[3]" (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_S.978) At the moment it's not known how broadly this law, if passed, will consider online videos to be illegal, but lots of people are worried that it might be used to include speed-run videos of games, "let's play" style reviews and walkthroughs (help videos that show you how to complete a game or certain parts of a game), video comparisons of games, even things like homemade film parodies (where a group of friends act out scenes from famous films, like Star Wars or Life of Brian), or karaoke videos. Potentially even wedding videos could (allegedly) become illegal, if they contain a copyrighted song being played (say in a part with a dance floor). And of course, even though this law would only pertain to America, Great Britain (like the good little lapdog it is) would cave in to any demands from the USA or it's companies, without a second, or even first, thought for the moral and legal rights of the British citizens. To oppose the bill, go to: http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/ten_strikes?akid=700.450896.5hVZPC&rd=1&t=1



lithium017	Jul 9 2011, 09:57 AM Post #2
Is Now Posting With Power Posts: 1,416 Group: Staff (Ret.) Member #235 Joined: October 1, 2009	Hmm. This seems very interesting but if the law would be passed- then IGN, Gametrailers, Gamespot and other gaming sites would not be allowed to show any content whatsoever of Top 10s, walkthroughs, even some reviews. I understand the premise because they wish to eliminate movie streaming sites but for movies the experience is watching; for games the experience is playing which would make games a unique entity I should hope. Watching a game being played isnt the same thing as playing a game.
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Matt	Jul 9 2011, 11:43 AM Post #3
Kick, Punch, It's all in the mind Posts: 2,532 Group: Legendary Member #55 Joined: January 3, 2007	I dislike this idea, I'm assuming they mean things like Movies and stuff (I have saw countless JTV and U stream streams of pirated movies and stuff) but if it does end up effecting video games ALOT of people will be annoyed.



Mk II	Jul 9 2011, 12:59 PM Post #4
Elite Posts: 4,493 Group: Staff (Ret.) Member #381 Joined: November 7, 2010	it doesnt. most of the examples mentioned would be covered by the Fair Use clause. If you are really worried about wedding videos infringing the copyrights of the Birdy Song or the Macarena just take a deep breath and stop using the internets for a while DISCLAIMER: i am not a lawyer.



lithium017	May 29 2012, 12:55 PM Post #5
Is Now Posting With Power Posts: 1,416 Group: Staff (Ret.) Member #235 Joined: October 1, 2009	A question that relates to this bill - does anyone else post videos on youtube of gaming content from actual games? Do you know if one is allowed to make money on those ads via advertisements?
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SicCooper	May 29 2012, 01:20 PM Post #6
Veteran Posts: 1,440 Group: Senior Members Member #611 Joined: September 16, 2011	lithium017 May 29 2012, 12:55 PM A question that relates to this bill - does anyone else post videos on youtube of gaming content from actual games? Do you know if one is allowed to make money on those ads via advertisements? This is interesting because I have seen big youtubers such as Pete Dorr use gameplay footage and game music, and he is a partner, but from what I understand, if you do that, your video cannot only be taken down, but you can get in trouble as well. I had a video taken down immediately after uploading it because it had the pokemon theme song at the beginning. I know thats a TV show, and not a game, but still...



lithium017	May 29 2012, 08:08 PM Post #7
Is Now Posting With Power Posts: 1,416 Group: Staff (Ret.) Member #235 Joined: October 1, 2009	Seems strange that some people can and others cant post the videos with content. I will ask Pete and hope he responds (but he has been awesome helping me previously so let's hope that continues)
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