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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 15 2011, 05:28 AM (1,528 Views) | |
| Grizzmeister | Jul 15 2011, 05:28 AM Post #1 |
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All of us here in the US know how disgustingly vile Fox News is but it pales in comparison to News Corp in the UK which may have hacked the phones of 9/11 victims. Both the absurdly Conservative Fox News and the now defunct News Corp are owned by Rupert Murdoch which begs the question; if it is found that 9/11 victim’s phones were hacked by News Corp should Rupert Murdoch go to jail? 
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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer
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| Matt | Jul 15 2011, 06:29 AM Post #2 |
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Do you mean News of the World? I thought that News Corp was a bigger company that just shut down NOTW. I do agree everyone connected in the hacking should recieve jailtime or a pretty big fine at the least. |
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| Mk II | Jul 15 2011, 06:59 AM Post #3 |
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the fish starts to rot at the head, so yes. IF his company is found guilty, he should pay the price and not just some salaried underlings. And a very hefty fine and compensation payments of course, thats where it will hurt him most, his wallet |
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| Grizzmeister | Jul 15 2011, 08:11 AM Post #4 |
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Yes I'm sorry, NOTW was shut down but News Corp has been implicated in the hacking of the 9/11 victims. Maybe someone from the UK can clarify further? Nonetheless, the Murdoch family is still at the center of this scandal which appears to be just the tip of the iceberg. |
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| Matt | Jul 15 2011, 04:37 PM Post #5 |
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I only heard about NOTW aand I'm from england, Still though, I hope everything does get sorted. |
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| Grimakis | Jul 15 2011, 06:19 PM Post #6 |
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I don't believe Murdoch should go to jail. Wiretapping to get a good news story might be illegal, unethical, and a violation of privacy, but I think a hefty fine will more than compensate. IMO, something like this should be handled via a lawsuit. All of the fines taken from NOTW or News Corp, or whoever, should go to the families of the 9/11 victims. Murdoch serving time in jail doesn't solve anything. |
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| Grizzmeister | Jul 15 2011, 06:47 PM Post #7 |
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Watch this video to get educated and also have some laughs.  http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/391989/july-14-2011/murdoch-s-media-empire-might-go-down-the-toilet |
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| Ninty64 | Jul 16 2011, 12:27 PM Post #8 |
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NOtW was owned by NewsCorps which is owned my Murdoch. NOtW was a Sunday red top paper which was the biggest selling Sunday paper in the UK until its demise last week. The Murdochs said they were closing it as the name 'News Of The World' was now stained with the phone hacking allegations. They have been summoned in front of a Parliamentary committee this coming week where they need to answer some very serious questions. As to whether phones of relatives of those who died in the 9/11 attacks were hacked is still under investigation but nothing surprises me when the Murdoch snake is involved. We keep hearing that worse may be to follow so its a waiting game at the moment, BUT it wouldn't surprise me at all. They hacked into the phone of a murdered schoolgirl so nothing is sacred! Disgusting. |
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| Grizzmeister | Jul 16 2011, 01:38 PM Post #9 |
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Yeah that Rupert Murdoch sure seems like a slimy character. Here in the US he runs the right-wing propaganda news apparatus known as Fox News which helped George Bush get elected and goated our country in to the senseless and expensive war in Iraq. Don't worry, though, nobody with half a brain takes Fox News seriously anymore. Lately Fox has been attempting to promote the reckless Republican concept that we can balance the United States' federal budget without increasing taxes on the people or institutions that make more than $250,000 a year. Obviously this is a Murdoch decree to help his well-heeled friends get even wealthier regardless of what the consequences are to our nation as a whole.  |
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| regnad | Jul 18 2011, 04:35 AM Post #10 |
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He owns f**king everything. HarperCollins Perennial Cliff Street Books The Ecco Press Quill HarperAudio Regan Books Amistad Press William Morrow HarperTorch Eos HarperEntertainment HarperSanFrancisco HarperInformation HarperBusiness HarperResource Fourth Estate Access Travel William Morrow Cookbooks Branded Books Program HarperCollins Children's Books Greenwillow Books Joanna Cotler Books Laura Geringer Books HarperFestival HarperTrophy Avon Tempest HarperCollins International Fox Broadcasting Company (discussed in a supplementary note elsewhere on this site) 85% of Fox Entertainment Group Inc which includes ... Fox SportsWNVW - New York City KTTV - Los Angeles WFLD - Chicago WTXF - Philadelphia WFXT - Boston WTTG - Washington D.C KDFW - Dallas WJBK - Detroit WAGA - Atlanta KRIV - Houston WJW - Cleveland WTVT - Tampa KSAZ - Phoenix KDVR - Denver KTVI - St Louis WITI - Milwaukee WOFL - Orlando WOGX - Ocala WDAF - Kansas City KSTU - Salt Lake City WHBQ - Memphis WGHP - Greensboro WBRC - Birmingham WPR - Chicago KTBC - Austin KVC - Austin Fox Sports Net Fox Sports South Fox Sports Pittsburgh Fox Sports Southeast Fox Sports Midwest Fox Sports Rocky Mountain Fox Sports Arizona Fox Sports Northwest Fox Sports West Fox Sports Detroit Fox Sports Bay Area (with Rainbow Media Holdings) Fox Sports Chicago (with Rainbow Media Holdings) Fox Sports Cincinnati Fox Sports Intermountain West Fox Sports New England (with Rainbow Media) Fox Sports New York (with Rainbow Media) Fox Sports Ohio (with Rainbow Media) Fox Sports Southwest (with Rainbow Media) Madison Square Garden Network (with Rainbow Media) FiT TV The Health Network Fox Sports World FX National Geographic's cable channel (50% with GE and National Geographic) Golf Channel (33%) The Family Channel MTM Entertainment Fox News Channel FxM Outdoor Life (34%) Speedvision (34%) TV Guide Channel (44% with Liberty Media) 34% of Hughes Electronics British Sky Broadcasting (40% - Vivendi may dispose of 24.5% of BSkyB) Music Choice Europe (49%) QVC (20%) Sky Multi-Channels (over 40 channels, including the following in which BSkyB has an economic interest) .tv National Geographic Channel UK (50%) Paramount Channel (25%) Sky One Sky News Sky Soap Sky Travel The Computer Channel Nickelodeon UK (50%, with Viacom) The History Channel (50%) Sky Scottish (50%) Granada Sky Broadcasting (40%) - with Granada, now part of ITV Granada Plus Granada Talk TV Granada Men & Motors Granada TV High Street Granada Food & Wine Granada Health & Beauty Granada Home and Garden Fox Kids Premium Channels Sky Movies The Movie Channel Sky Sports Sky Movies Gold Sky Sports 2 Sky Sports 3 TM3 (66%) Premiere World - 24% (owned through BSkyB) Arena (50%) Channel V (50%) FOX FOX History FOX Soap FOX Talk FOX Travel FOXTEL Weather FX Nickelodeon (25%) Sky News Australia (33.3%) UK TV (60%) Fox Sports The Comedy Channel (80%) STAR Chinese STAR Plus STAR Movies STAR Plus Japan STAR Movies South ESPN STAR Sports (50%) STAR Sports Channel V (50%) Viva Cinema (50%) Twentieth Century Fox Fox Filmed Entertainment Fox 2000 Fox Searchlight Fox Family Films Fox Animation Studios Twentieth Century Fox Home Twentieth Century Fox TV Fox Studios Australia The Times Times Literary Supplement The Sunday Times The Sun News of the World Times Education The Australian The Weekend Australian The Daily Telegraph The Sunday Telegraph Sportsman Herald Sun Sunday Herald Sun The Weekly Times The Courier Mail The Sunday Mail Gold Coast Bulletin Adelaide Advertiser Cumberland Newspaper Group (20 titles in Sydney suburbs) Leader Newspaper Group (30 titles in Melbourne suburbs) Cairns Post Group (42%) North Queensland Newspaper Group Townsville Bulletin Quest Community Newspapers (17 titles in Brisbane suburbs) Northern Territory News Sunday Territorian Centralian Advocate The Suburban The Mercury The Sunday Tasmanian Tasmanian Country Treasure Islander Derwent Valley Gazette Sunday Mail Messenger Press Group Sunday Times (Perth) New York Knicks (20% stake through partnership with Cablevision) New York Rangers (20% stake through partnership with Cablevision) Los Angeles Kings (NHL, 40% option) Los Angeles Lakes (NBA, 9.8% option) Staples Center (40% owned by Fox/Liberty) National Rugby League Championship (50%) - Australian football Sky Radio (71%) Fox Sports Radio Network Sky Radio Sweden (28%) TALKCO (20%) Radio Veronica (42%) - Netherlands Sky Radio Denmark Sky Radio Germany Sky Radio Netherlands ClassicFM - Netherlands NDS (formerly News Digital Services) SiVenture - UK-based smartcard consultancy News Advanced Technologies News America Digital Publishing News America New Media News Internet Services Healtheon/WebMD (11%) TheStreet.com (partial stake with New York Times) Rivals.com (46%) iSyndicate (partial stake with Scripps, NBC, InfoSpace, Vignette, and Microsoft) News Digital Systems (UK) Line One (33%) Sportal (5% through BSkyB) Orbis - interactive gambling software News Interactive (Aust) - including NEWS.com.au, CareerOne, AustralianIT, FOX SPORTS, CARSguide and RealEstate.com.au PDN Xinren Information Technology (50%) And I'm actually leaving out a bunch as well. 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| Grizzmeister | Jul 18 2011, 05:55 AM Post #11 |
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From the July 18th issue of Newsweek magazine: "Then came the unfair and imbalanced politicized "news" of the Fox News Channel showing (again) Murdoch's genius at building an empire on the basis of an ever-descending lowest journalistic denominator. It, too, rests on a foundation that has little or nothing to do with the best traditions and values of real reporting and responsible journalism: the best obtainable version of the truth. In place of this journalistic ideal, the enduring Murdoch ethic substitutes gossip, sensationalism, and manufactured controversy." Here's proof of this from the 2008 US Presidential election: What's extremely troubling, to me at least, is that Murdoch has influence in the outcome of the ongoing US National debt debate presently raging in Congress through his imbalanced Fox News Channel and possibly through the Wall Street Journal. |
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| Matt | Jul 18 2011, 05:37 PM Post #12 |
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Thought this would be the right topic.... Lulzsec hacked into the sun website and had it redirecting to an article that Murdoch was dead - Heres something I stole from Twitpic.  Its now redirecting to Lulzsec's twitter. |
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| Grizzmeister | Jul 19 2011, 05:50 AM Post #13 |
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Colbert Report: Blood in the Water What's suspicious is that Faux News continues to ram the sensationalized Caylee Anthony story down viewer's throats yet they don't think the Rupert Murdoch scandal, which has rocked the very foundation of both the British press and government, is that important. 
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| Matt | Jul 19 2011, 06:19 AM Post #14 |
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I can't watch the video because of being from england I'm IP locked out of it. I'm not suprised going by Fox News reputation. |
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| Grizzmeister | Jul 19 2011, 06:27 AM Post #15 |
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What, I've never heard of such a thing!  Here's the direct link: http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/392262/july-18-2011/blood-in-the-water |
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| Matt | Jul 19 2011, 09:54 AM Post #16 |
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Yup, I get this on both but the FXUK link is broken and I can't find it by searching on the UK site, Oh well.
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| Grizzmeister | Jul 19 2011, 10:56 AM Post #17 |
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Maybe someone will be kind enough to put it up on YouTube?
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| Matt | Jul 19 2011, 11:01 AM Post #18 |
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Maybe, I could try with a proxy but I can never find one with decent enough speeds to stream videos. |
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| Grizzmeister | Jul 19 2011, 11:22 AM Post #19 |
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You're really missing something if you don't get to see the video as here in the States most of the best political insight comes from satire. As the old saying goes, "many a truth is told in jest". 
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| Mk II | Jul 19 2011, 11:28 AM Post #20 |
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thankfully he doesnt own me! having just seen some of the live hearings in the UK parliament i say: hang the b*st*rds, all of them! Edited by Mk II, Jul 19 2011, 11:29 AM.
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| Matt | Jul 19 2011, 02:51 PM Post #21 |
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Did anyone actually watch his hearing? Apparently someone hit him in the head with a shaving form pie, Must say he deserved it. |
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| Mk II | Jul 19 2011, 03:32 PM Post #22 |
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yes, i saw it (well, a small part) and i did see Murdoch getting "pied". I dont think i approve of that though, the victim doesnt know the attacker only throws a pie and it could be something much worse. Besides, he's an old man and im afraid this will only gain him some richly undeserved sympathy from the general public. But that Rebekkah B. is something else... what a piece of work! Someone should have told her a long time ago that a hairdo (for want of a better word) like that might suit a 20 year old but not a grown-up woman. |
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| Matt | Jul 19 2011, 03:56 PM Post #23 |
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I have no sympathy for him whatsoever, He had no problems with making family's that are already dealing with what would be the worst moment of their lives. I seriously hope he gets no sympathy, I completely despise him to be honest. |
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| Mk II | Jul 19 2011, 05:09 PM Post #24 |
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ditto. He's evil and far too powerful. People talk about how Randolph Hearst used his papers to start wars. Murdoch's empire is much bigger. But i reckon he has gone too far now. The thing is: if you "own" politicians like he did, they will resent you for it and silently pray for your comeuppance. Now they smell an opportunity to get rid of him and make themselves look a bit better in the process. Double whammy! |
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| Grizzmeister | Jul 19 2011, 06:15 PM Post #25 |
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Rupert Murdoch definitely had too much power seeing as even UK Prime Ministers had to pay obeisance to him. Here in the United States Murdoch's propaganda machine Fox News Channel was tragically successful in getting George W. Bush elected to the Presidency, and then was instrumental in heightening the atmosphere of terror which inevitably coerced the US in to the reckless war in Iraq. It's really quite sad what an unscrupulous man like Rupert Murdoch can accomplish when he wields the power that his media empire afforded him. Let's hope that the authorities in the UK can finally put an end to his reign of terror. |
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| zar | Jul 19 2011, 11:01 PM Post #26 |
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I haven't been following it, but if they're sure he did it then yeah, obviously he should go to jail. I don't think an 80 year old billionaire would give a crap about paying a fine. Everytime Fox News is on, all I see is people arguing about political mumbo jumbo, rarely news. It should just be called "conservative politics". Its obviously got a conservative bias on everything and if you don't like it, don't watch it. I like ABC World News and CNN for news about events like the earthquake in Japan, they don't put their views on everything. And they actually talk about news! I don't really give a crap about politics, its not like my views would make any difference anyway. |
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| Grizzmeister | Jul 20 2011, 06:48 AM Post #27 |
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Just like everything that surrounds Rupert Murdoch yesterday's meeting with Parliament turned in to a complete circus; the highlight of the spectacle being when a protestor attempted to hit Murdoch with a shaving cream pie. None the less, just like any drug kingpin or mobster would, Murdoch and his heir apparent son claimed almost complete ignorance which was highly dubious given the amount of hush money they've paid out to date. Murdoch and his executive team apologized profusely but their resistance to name key players in the NotW's criminal activity makes those apologies disingenuous at best. |
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| Ninty64 | Jul 20 2011, 07:42 AM Post #28 |
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The highlight was watching Murdochs wife swing for the culprit! So funny!  But, the question remains how did this (cream pie) guy get into parliament, a supposed security fortress?? |
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| Matt | Jul 20 2011, 08:34 AM Post #29 |
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Come to think of it, now that you mention it, it may of been a set up, I doubt they would just let anyone in, None the less without searching him first. |
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| Grizzmeister | Jul 20 2011, 08:39 AM Post #30 |
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Yes as it shed light on the fact that she's not only Murdoch's wife but also his personal body guard. 
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