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E3 1997 Official N64 Controller
Topic Started: Jan 9 2010, 03:56 PM (30,339 Views)
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And this must be the seller then :D
Edited by DarkLink, Jan 15 2015, 06:22 PM.
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Can anybody give a quick opinion if this one is legit?
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Thanks for updating guys
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Update: I asked the seller of the E3 about more information regarding the E3 tournament event at the time, but only now found the time to evaluate it properly:

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Okay, some of this we already knew/guessed, some of it we didn't (for example how many days it was available). In any case it is very rare information and to actually get this first hand from somebody who phisically attended is awesome. Now we finally have evidence!

So let's break this down in a calculation:

The best case scenario:
- E3 opens at 9AM and closes at 6PM
- The Controller was given out every 15 Minutes
- 4 Controllers/hour = 4*9 = 36 a day
- 3 Days = 36*3 = 108

This means that in the very best case the maximum of controllers given out was 108.
The number seems high, but actually already prooves the insane rarity.

However, this is highly unlikely. Events at E3 usually never start before 10-11AM and usually end 1-2 hours before E3 closes. Employees have lunch breaks, some of the competitions may have taken longer than 15 minutes etc.

A more realistic/pessimistic scenario would be something like this:
- E3 events start at 10AM und stop at 5PM
- The Controller was given out every 20 Minutes
- 3 Controllers/hour = 3*7 = 21
- 3 Days = 3*21 = 63

Sadly the number could even be less, but given the evidence at hand we can assume that the number of controllers handed out averages at around 80

What does this mean now? Well we can really only compare it to other limited number controllers.
Let's take the Millennium 2000 for example, limited to 1000. This controller is very rare but we actually do see it floating around on eBay here and there, sometimes none for months, but it averages out to be seen about every 3 Months (sometimes it's the same one resold again, but that counts, since a new owner is able to aquire it)

Also take into account, that only People who followed Nintendo Power 100 got one. Those are people that knew exactly what they are getting and were knolegable about Nintendo 64. At E3 it is quite possible that a rather uninterested person in comparison got one just for fun. You know what I mean :D

According to the calculation and assuming 80 exist the E3 is about 12 times rarer then the Millennium 2000.
This means we should theoretically be able to find one every 3 years.
But there is no guarantee of course, some could be broken, lost, thrown away and so on.

I am updating ddr2nite's legacy on the current owners list. It's about time to do this and I'm sure he would not mind for the sake of this commnity. I'm cutting out all the fake ones, and those that don't exist anymore, like the one that was robbed at gunpoint, to have an accurate and official list:


1. Andrew Reiner (signed by Miyamoto and Imamura); acquired through competition (original owner)
2. ddr2nite - acquired through purchase from Rengozu
3. owner unknown - (signed by Miyamoto, Arakawa, and Lincoln); (most likely original owner)
4. Brodieman - acquired through purchase from ddr2nite (N64F)
5. tobbelobbe - acquired through Nintendo Scandinavias HQ Bergsala (original owner)
6. i8ablueskittle - acquired throug purchase from Guggles (N64F)
7. ddr2nite - acquired through purchase from saiya*jin
8. RsTheJuice401 - acquired through BIN purchase from bbcorvette07 (sold to another owner - missing info)
9. Nadim9067 - acquired through purchase from nintedo64_fan
10. mick_thunder_struck - acquired through purchase from bbcorvette07
11. mjwatts26 - acquired through purchase from spartan043
12. No64DD - acquired through purchase from Finngamer (N64F)
13. Darklink - acquired through purchase from eBay

I'm sure of this list with small exceptions:
@Nadim - Did yours actually turn out to be fake? Couldn't find any info on that.
@ i8ablueskittle - Did you actually end up selling yours or is it still in your possession?
@all - Does anyone know if mick_thunder_struck's controller was legit in the end?


Wow long post :D
Cheers guys, hope it helps.




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@Vinyl: I know you are joking, but with this controller that will never happen :D

@bluedog: I edited the post. This was the response of the seller of my E3 I bought. He was the original owner.
The more than on tournament at the time theory is out of question in my oppinion. We had a few eye-whitnesses before and nobody has ever mentioned this. The news here is, that we now know it was available all 3 days. I guess most visitors only go for one day so we could never verify this until now.


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May 27 2016, 03:01 PM
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Dec 4 2010, 12:42 AM
So I got this magazine off eBay because it had news coverage on the 1997 E3. This magazine is EGM2 if anyone has heard of it before. So I was looking through it and I assumed they would mention the controller somewhere, and sure enough, there was a little note of it on the bottom of a page I was reading. I was surprised it showed a picture of it! I just thought I'd share this little discovery with all of you, because I thought it was cool that they showed it in a magazine =]



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hey which issue was this? i would like to buy it but I want to make sure it is the right one on ebay. Thanks!
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Sure the value is certanily above 2000$ but I just want to give all the collectors out there hope that it is still possible to obtain one in the wild. Yes it took 2 years of constant searching but one day it sat there for 200$ on eBay. I was about to pay ddr any price for his and then I was glad I didn't. Ever since then I changed from beeing a more or less "greedy" collector to becoming a patient one. When collecting has tought me one thing, then that it is a sport of patience and no matter how unobtaiable something seems, you will get your chance if your persistant long enough. How many items have I lost before thinking "this is it, I'll never see this again" and then I did. I agree this is a tricky one to obtain and I got a little lucky, but often the payoff is way higher if you don't buy things in a rush for ridicullous prices. I just felt like sharing this because I was SOOO frustrated knowing I will never own one and I know how that can feel. In the end, I had 3 chances and the realisation that the value of something is not always related to its price.

Also you never know what happens, maybe they'll find a whole stack of these one day. Look what happened to me with my bronze Foxdata Controler for example. Only 2 found, way rarer than the E3 Controller...value possibly in the same realms if it would be official. And now someone opens a box and sets of these fly into collectors hands, but only the ones that have big Dollars in their wallets. What I'm trying to say is, even if my bronze Foxdata will be close to worthless now, I will never loose the value of the feelings I had when obtaining it. So look into the future optimisticly when looking for the E3, no item will ever gain endlessly in value and one day you'll get your chance!
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Mario Kart 64 of course!

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Yeah true :) This was at Gamescom. No idea why we didn't do it at the time. Consoles were all there.
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