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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 4 2012, 07:51 PM (575 Views) | |
| stinger9142 | Sep 4 2012, 07:51 PM Post #1 |
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The idea behind this topic has been with me for well over a year now. I am finally getting around to bringing it in to fruition. We all know that when it comes to gaming, some games are just a cut above the rest. Some games flat out define or redefine a genre all together. They can leave you chasing a feeling that sometimes nothing can come close to again. That is what this topic is about. I want to give credit to the games that made a genre for me, or at least came pretty close. I look forward to hearing your all's opinions too! When it comes to Adventure games, to me Ocarina of Time is king. few games have kept me occupied as long, or where as atmospherically powerful. It had am amazing storyline, and quality game play. Simply put, it has lasting power. I could pick it up today and play it and have a quality gaming experience. I have to say the Monster Hunter series on PSP has a lot of the same adventure elements, but lacks the atmosphere. Pokemon games to me possess a strong adventure element, and can sure occupy some time. They also lack the atmosphere though. (How much atmospheric feeling can you get from a simple handheld anyhow?) Shadow of the Colossus was incredibly atmospheric, and felt truly epic. I feel it fell short on the adventure front to me though, with the lack of non-boss enemies of any kind. Top me, I guess The closest any game has come to this genre for me is Elder Scrolls Oblivion. It had the adventure, atmosphere, story, and quality game play. Now as far as nerve racking stealth games, Metal Gear Solid was on top for quite some time. The tradition continued with MGS 2 and Snake Eater. They were some of the first games to ever make me nervous when I played. The amazing story and cinematic elements drew me in, and kept my heart racing at the thought of being caught. The Tenchu games had some pretty intense moments. but lacked the cinematic elements and overall game play quality. I will have to give credit to the Hitman games for matching and sometimes topping MG. They too possess cinematic qualities and excellent story lines. They have literally made my heart race before. When it comes to immersive atmospheric masterpieces, The Assassin's Creed games do it best. They leave me feeling like I live in them. The views from the "Leap of Faith" locations often took my breathe away. I found myself wandering the cities sometimes, just soaking in the atmosphere. The story lines are such that I own 3 novels based off of them. The overall game quality is impeccable to me. I don't think I have ever played a game that comes close to them. I find the Uncharted games to be beautiful and engrossing with amazing story lines, but the lack of free roam keeps them from truly being able to compete. Resident Evil 5 had some really rich environments and an amazing story, but still falls short of the mighty AC games to me. On to FPS games. It will come as no surprise to most of you that Goldeneye and Perfect Dark rule the roost. Hundreds of hours of spent between these two masterpieces solidified these classics as the measuring point for all fps games. Timesplitter games come dang close. They were beautiful, and I loved building my own levels. Something was missing though. As of late, Battlefield games have dominated my fps game playing time. I find the online multi-player to be the closest thing I have found to the N64 multi-player days. The fact that it is total strangers though, and not friends in the same room make it... well, lack something of course. On to "Sandbox/Free Roam" Games. To me this was perfected by the GTA games. I think Driver was the first style of game I played like this. I was hooked. As of late, a lot of games have given GTA a run for their money. Some of these games are period pieces, which can both help and hinder depending sometimes. Gun for PS2 was amazing, but limited city size, and lack of many npc's held it back. Read Dead Redemption carried this torch further, and I feel topped GTA in some ways. Saboteur did an amazing job combining elements of GTA, Hitman, and Assassin's Creed games to make one hell of a game. It was very atmospheric as well. Of course the Assassin's Creed games fit and compete in this category as well. Fallout Games and Oblivion both are amazing sandbox style games as well. Bully could almost match GTA, and had incredible atmosphere and music. The thing that GTA does so well that others don't is to stay light hearted. It made it OK to drive on the sidewalk for a bit. OK to smack a civilian or two around. These are things I don't do on AC games, Fallout, or Saboteur. They seemed to serious for that kind of goofing off, except Bully. Platformers - Mario 64 is King, with Banjo and Kazooie close behind. Now for games that are well, just "me", Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas. I have always been a gun nut, and a bit of a survivalist. These games cater directly to that, as well as my desire to explore. Honestly, it makes me feel like these games were made specifically for me. What an awesome feeling to have! Lastly I will mention a few others that are hard to categorize for me. The Sims, Mario Kart, & Diddy Kong Racing. If nothing else these games are a measuring point for fun. So what games are ground breakers in your eyes? |
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| alxbly | Sep 4 2012, 09:30 PM Post #2 |
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Minecraft's gameplay is, quite literally, ground breaking... |
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| TNT737373 | Sep 4 2012, 09:41 PM Post #3 |
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Took the concept and addictive nature of Lego's and mashed it with an RPG, this is the only game my little cousins ever play. There's so many groundbreaking games out there, I say Super Mario 64 was the most influential for 3D platforming, and GoldenEye right behind to revolutionize the FPS market, this genre is most of what you see nowadays. Others I can think of right now include Resident Evil, Half Life, and the original Need For Speed. |
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| Mk II | Sep 5 2012, 01:01 AM Post #4 |
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you're forgetting one very obvious entry: Super Mario Bros. That game not only broke lots of ground in its genre - heck, it created a genre - but it firmly established the NES platform (and Nintendo!) and could be credited with saving the console industry. SM64 was a giant leap forward in technology but the original SMB had a much greater and longer lasting cultural impact. Edited by Mk II, Sep 5 2012, 01:01 AM.
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| ddr2nite | Sep 5 2012, 01:19 AM Post #5 |
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I realized that one very important genre was left out: RPG's. There were definitely a lot of epic titles out there such as Chrono Trigger, Xenogears, and Earthbound just to name a few. But without a doubt - the Final Fantasy series were the ones that most epitomizes these games that told dozens if not hundreds of stories. The ground breaking series themselves were practically novels that were scripted to capture the player's hearts and weave a dream world for the brain that made you believe in this alternate reality. You went through and experienced everything the characters experienced - because quite frankly, you WERE the character. You chose their actions and role-played in this other universe. The emotions are real: you feel happy, angry, confused, frustrated, sad, and everything in-between. The roles I took on in Final Fantasy 8 and 10 (and X-2) were amazing rides and I wish to someday get the chance to play Final Fantasy 7 all the way through as well. The Final Fantasy series (most of them) were coupled with the unparalleled genius of Nobuo Uematsu who composed the masterpiece soundtracks - it just puts a bow on the whole package. |
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| stinger9142 | Sep 5 2012, 05:31 AM Post #6 |
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It's nice to read others thoughts. Actually, I did not forget the rpg genre. I also didn't list racing or fighting genres.the reason is I am not a huge fan of those genres. The only turn based "rpg" I have ever enjoyed is Pokemon. My favorite racer was GT4 for quite a while, but I despise the thought of it now. I prefer Mario Kart for racing now. I am not even sure what my favorite fighting game even is... |
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| corE | Sep 5 2012, 06:54 AM Post #7 |
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I'm sure most people would say Street Fighter, but for me, my favorite fighter (and really the only fighter games I have ever gotten into) would be Mortal Kombat. I loved the series on SNES, and feel they kind of went down hill after that. I did enjoy Armagedon, but the 3D MKs didn't really do it for me, until the latest title. The newest Mortal Kombat is really cool, and really goes back to the roots of the MK series. I love games from all of the consoles, and with the Playstations' and XBOXs' graphics and exclusives, I can see that it's hard for Nintendo to compete, but Zelda and Mario titles (for me), just keep the Nintendo consoles ahead. MK II, you were right on the money when you said Super Mario Bros was groundbreaking. Without the "Jumpman", video games would be a thing of the past. In my opinion, no other character or game series has made such a FLAWLESS transfer from 2D to 3D, as Mario did in SM64, and then in the "NEW" Super Mario Bros series, it shows that they can still come up with new ideas and gameplay, paying homage to their roots, with side scrolling, platform games. The Mariokart series and Mario Party series are also some of my favorites, and it's not just Nintendo putting Mario's face on unrelated games (even though Super Mario Bros 2 is one of my ALL TIME FAVORITE games). You can tell they are "Mario" games, by the way the game feels (if that makes any sense). The Zelda franchise is top notch, in my opinion, even though I have never played more than 10 minutes of the first Legend of Zelda. My girlfriend is a HUGE Zelda fan, and though my brain can't sit still for long enough to play Zelda, I absolutely LOVE watching her play through the games. With the exception of the 3 Zelda titles on the Philips CD-i (and Hotel Mario, for that matter), I have NOT seen a Zelda game that wasn't AMAZING. Nintendo has always been my favorite, but because of the Sony exclusives (LittleBigPlanet, the Uncharted series and the God of War series), and the Microsoft exclusives (the Gears of War series and the Left 4 Dead series), I CANNOT imagine what my collection would be without all of Nintendo's competitors. I'm sure I have missed some, but I'm sure I lost a lot of readers as my rant went on.
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| stinger9142 | Sep 5 2012, 07:23 PM Post #8 |
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Believe me, I felt I had a long rant in the first post. Made me feel like I probably scared some people off Of course Mario Brothers is a ground breaking game. The truth is though, I was a little guy when it first came out. I only really became a "gamer" in 96. Most if not all of the games I talked about came out after then. I was thinking about fighting games more today. Honestly I give a lot of credit to the Mortal Kombat series for helping me get in to gaming and for making friends. I moved on from it then though. Lately I had preferred wrestling games to traditional ones when it came to fighting. |
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| bluedogrulez | Sep 5 2012, 10:13 PM Post #9 |
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I think Metal Gear (NES) deserves some love here. It was not the first hunt and find the object game (Metroid comes to mind), what blew my young mind was all of the "marvelous toys" you got to collect. Machine guns, grenade launchers, night vision goggles, etc. took the place of coins and jumping boots. Very cool. The game had its flaws and was (reportedly) inferior to the MSX version, but in terms of moving gaming forward, def. deserves some recognition. |
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| The Red Shadow | Sep 5 2012, 10:21 PM Post #10 |
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I think Shadow of the Colossus deserves an obligatory nod here. Perhaps the game didn't supply any ground breaking play ideas but it certainly created, or at least revitalized, the "video games as art" conversation. And it was, quite simply put, an amazing gaming experience. Just a small addition to the RPG discussion: everything that was said about Final Fantasy games is exactly why I love that series so much and can't seem to get into Skyrim. There is no "character" or "personality" to Skyrim. You aren't playing a role, you are playing as yourself. Although you can give your character some back story in your own mind, it doesn't quite shine through on the screen. I really do prefer traditional-style over this new design of modern RPGs. Just my two cents. Edited by The Red Shadow, Sep 5 2012, 10:22 PM.
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| stinger9142 | Sep 6 2012, 04:26 PM Post #11 |
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Sadly I missed out on the original Metal Gear. As for SotC, I mentioned it in my first post. It was a very well done game. It is one that always sticks with me. I was playing it when I found out my grandpa died... |
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| alxbly | Sep 6 2012, 04:47 PM Post #12 |
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Skyrim's wonder is in the setting, the environment, the sheer number of secrets waiting to be unlocked as you explore and the freedom in which you can build your character. The actual story isn't that great. Final Fantasy (and most JRPG's) are the opposite; the worlds are usually quite linear and character progression are tends to be limited within the type of character(s) you select from the outset or those that the game brings to your party, but the story is a more important element and characters tend to have more... err... character. Horses for courses, I guess. For me the bugs in a Bethusda game, the shallow story and crappy dialogue aren't a game breaker because the rest is so damned good. I'd take that over usual JRPG teen-party saving the world tale, especially if there's an annoying shy, high pitched, giggly girl who may have a crush on the lead.... or my own pet-hate; endless, unskippable, wall-of-text storytelling. |
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| The Red Shadow | Sep 6 2012, 06:26 PM Post #13 |
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I think Skyrim is an awesome game for what it is. I'm just not into that style very much. I really couldn't get into Fallout: New Vegas for the same reason. But I have found myself wanting to get Skyrim again and give it a chance. It is a little stuffy of me to hold it to the same standards as I do traditional RPGs. As for SotC, I just love giving it any exposure I can. It should be played by anyone with a PS2, or a PS3 if you get the collection that includes ICO as well. stinger, I'm glad you mentioned Tenchu because that game had just as much of an effect on me as MGS did. I loved the idea of stealthing around instead of always just running in with guns (or, in this case, swords) a-blazin'. Tomb Raider, for me, was the first true 3D game experience. I didn't play Super Mario 64 until many years after its release. My adventures with Lara Croft broke that ground for me and I loved every minute of it. And I think Silent Hill deserves a mention, even in light of the fact that Resident Evil and Alone In The Dark preceded it in the survival horror genre. SH was the true master of tense, creepy, horror gaming. I need to think about this topic some more because I know I've had some more moments with games over the years that fall into this whole subject. Edited by The Red Shadow, Sep 6 2012, 06:28 PM.
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| stinger9142 | Sep 6 2012, 06:42 PM Post #14 |
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That is exactly why this topic took me so long to make. I just kept thinking of more genres I loved, and more games that had a huge effect on me. I am glad to get so many peoples thoughts here. I am absolutely dying to play Skyrim. Darn my stupid addiction that terrified my wife of me playing games much
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