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| The Playstation Vita Thread; Sony's little handheld that could... (and let's hope... WILL!) | |
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| Cabanon | Dec 18 2011, 08:26 PM Post #31 |
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no matter what Sony will try to stop hackers, they will always find a solution to the problems. Sony literally started a war when they sued Geohot instead of playing it safe and hiring him to secure their network. hackers will always hit Sony pretty hard when they'll launch something new. no matter what is it and how. |
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| niniendowarrior | Dec 18 2011, 11:47 PM Post #32 |
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Quoted for truth. No matter how hard Sony tries... it's only a matter of time before hackers blow it wide open. I think the only portable handheld that wasn't entirely hacked was DSi enabled features for the Nintendo DSi. It's about the only protection Nintendo added to the handheld redesign. It also didn't get hacked because the 3DS was coming anyway. |
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| niniendowarrior | Dec 20 2011, 09:15 PM Post #33 |
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IGN reports on the sales: http://vita.ign.com/articles/121/1215186p1.html 321,407 units have been sold in 48 hours which isn't too shabby though Vita isn't drawing lines which can't be good for Sony. There's also been reports of hardware problems which will no doubt hurt Sony in the short term. On the PS Vita hacking biz... I've dug up some info and the system hasn't been hacked. What has been done however is executing PSP hacks on the Vita... thereby running PSP homebrew stuff in PSP emulation on Vita. This only means that PSP stuff will work but nothing on Vita level. |
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| niniendowarrior | Dec 22 2011, 04:40 PM Post #34 |
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Sony has posted a blog about the Launch details. http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/12/22/playstation-vita-launch-lineup-and-details/ |
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| The Red Shadow | Feb 14 2012, 09:58 PM Post #35 |
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I'm thinking about getting one of these when they come out. I've never really owned a handheld, although I did have a GBA for a short time. I think Sony has finally come up with a good handheld. I guess my main concern will be the lineup of games. I'd hate to pay $250 or more just to have a selection of crap to choose from. So far I'm eyeing the Uncharted game and Shinobido 2, as well as the MLB: The Show '12 installment. Anyone have an opinion on Sony's effort this time around, from what info that has been released so far?
Edited by The Red Shadow, Feb 14 2012, 09:58 PM.
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| niniendowarrior | Feb 15 2012, 02:15 AM Post #36 |
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I'm in the wait-and-see mode right now. PS Vita looks good from a hardware stand point, but there are hidden costs that make the $250 price tag deceiving, particularly the overpriced memory cards. There are games that require memory cards to even boot up, so you'll be forced to cough out the cash for one of these babies if you buy the Vita. You'll want an even bigger capacity one if you plan to get the Vita games off on PSN. Vita games are cheaper online than on retail, so that's the trade off you should be looking into. On paper, I love the Vita and see it far more favourably than the 3DS, but the price range is just choking me right now. I'll wait it out until Sony sorts out its problems About the line up of games, you've got the usual with Uncharted leading the pack. There's a few PSN only games but not particularly notable. The line up is going to get better from here, but I think it'll depend on what game genre you are keen on. There's quite a few fighting games that are coming out and there's also the PSP library via PSN if you ever want to get those. http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/02/09/how-to-download-psp-titles-to-ps-vita/ http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/02/14/playstation-store-update-226/ There's also this other Vita thread... http://s9.zetaboards.com/Nintendo_64_Forever/topic/7277017/1/ Edited by niniendowarrior, Feb 15 2012, 02:19 AM.
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| The Red Shadow | Feb 15 2012, 02:34 AM Post #37 |
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Thanks for the link to the other thread, there was some useful info for me in that. I'm sure a mod or admin can merge this topic with that one. As for the Vita, despite seeing a lot of things that should sway me the other way, I'm still leaning towards picking one up at launch. If I thought a short "wait and see" period would be rewarded with a price drop then I would hold off but it will most likely be awhile before that happens. No 3DS effect here, I'm sure. I'm certainly not enthused about the memory card strategy, although I don't know if I'll do any downloadable games for it anyway. Just gotta see how all that works out in the long run. Edited by The Red Shadow, Feb 15 2012, 02:36 AM.
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| Cabanon | Feb 15 2012, 06:11 AM Post #38 |
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there's a UMD exchange plan around the world, except in north america. that alone, kills the ps vita here. i watched a review yesterday and this console will not sell well. the battery cannot be changed. so in a yer or two, you gotta throw it away and buy a new one. you have to buy Sony memory stick to save anything on it. psp games doesnt work, yet (hackers will find a way to). cannot be recharged via usb, only via the charging station sold with it. 3h-3h30 playtime at maximum, 5 hours otherwise. 250 for wifi, 300 for 3g + monthly plan (ouch) and no internal storage. im not in the market for handheld console, but this would not be my first choice even tho the console is really pretty. |
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| Matt | Feb 15 2012, 07:08 AM Post #39 |
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Now i've spent a decent amount of time with the Vita, I'm posting my opinions here 1. Racing games have framerate issues - I found Ridge Racer AND Modnation Racers hard to even look at, it appears that the games run at a very low framerate (enough to be able to see the frames that are missing), apparently Wipeout is fine. 2. It isn't very comfy - The console itself is very large and the size means its not exactly portable or easy to carry around with you, the face buttons to me feel very cheap and "plastic-y" to me aswell, although thats just mainly an opinion thing 3. The Operating System is VERY nice, I find it alot nicer then say, the new Xbox dashboard or the 3DS's menu 4. The screen is VERY nice, its a shame though that the feel of the buttons etc don;t feel the same. |
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| The Red Shadow | Feb 15 2012, 10:44 AM Post #40 |
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The battery's life is a bit of a concern but I doubt it will go out in a year or two. I do know that there is an external battery pack coming out to extend the ~5h playtime so I wonder if that would be a cheap and easy way to fix the issue. I think this warrants some continued attention though. I have a week to firmly decide if I'm getting it at launch, although I might have to wait a little longer if my tax return takes a week longer than I was expecting. |
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| niniendowarrior | Feb 15 2012, 04:47 PM Post #41 |
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My personal impression on the battery is that it's better than the 3DS under normal use though it definitely does not match the PSP's. The idea (and this likely holds true for the 3DS as well) is that the battery life is fine when you're travelling as long as you charge the damn thing when you get to where ever it is you go to. UMD passport, as far as I can tell was only planned in Japan (not around the world). It really is kind of dumb for Sony not to provide it everywhere, but charging $10 for the import sounds to m like buying a PSP game online whether or not you have the UMD. Mindboggling stuff out of Sony for sure. Frame rate issues will likely disappear as the developer's get more time with the machine and as their code base matures. Right now... I feel it's still too early to spend that kind of fortune on the handheld. Sony is sorting out the issues but definitely I will get it sometime in the future. |
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| Cabanon | Feb 16 2012, 06:22 AM Post #42 |
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take cellphones/laptop batteries, after 2 years, they start to fail, you can replace them easy. the ps vita is the same type, but you can replace it. so once its done, its worthless and gotta go to the thrash can.
just watched the review again and the reviewer said it was available in europe as well. so europe + japan as of now. so no idea who says truth. |
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| The Red Shadow | Feb 16 2012, 08:12 AM Post #43 |
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I guess I'll just continue to wait and see if any further information comes along about the battery. I'm starting to lean towards getting a PS3 anyway. Lots of exclusives that I want to play on that console that are more of a sure thing than anything on the handheld. Thanks for the thoughts and info everyone. |
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| niniendowarrior | Feb 16 2012, 07:48 PM Post #44 |
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Personally, I don't think it goes to the trash can. I think officially, you'd have to take it to Sony for a replacement. This article also shows that it may not be very difficult to open it and replace the battery. http://www.techspot.com/news/47482-playstation-vita-gets-dissected-is-unusually-easy-to-disassemble.html |
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| Cabanon | Feb 16 2012, 08:21 PM Post #45 |
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if Sony does it. it'd be 70-100$ easily. better get another console at that price. remember, everything nowaday is made to be replaced, not to fixed. |
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| niniendowarrior | Feb 17 2012, 07:01 PM Post #46 |
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Just saying your auto-throw into the trash can isn't exactly the only option. I for one would rather pay than throw a good device away. EDIT: Here's a walkthrough article on tearing down the Vita. Always like these articles. http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/PlayStation-Vita-Teardown/7872/1 Edited by niniendowarrior, Feb 17 2012, 08:41 PM.
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| The Red Shadow | Feb 17 2012, 09:17 PM Post #47 |
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I have to admit that after seeing that I don't think I would be as intimidated with changing the battery as I was before. If some third party company were to release a replacement battery that wasn't too expensive then I might be tempted to pony up for a Vita. I'd still like to know whether or not I'd have to do this often and how long the original is going to last. Going through all of the hassle and cost to replace a battery a year or two down the road is a turn off. |
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| niniendowarrior | Feb 19 2012, 05:12 PM Post #48 |
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You're probably not going to get those reports anytime this year... the Vita is still a new piece of hardware. Sony trying to sweeten the deal. Buy 2 get 1 free on select Vita games. http://www.joystiq.com/2012/02/19/buy-2-get-1-free-on-select-vita-games-at-gamestop-starting-today/#continued Edited by niniendowarrior, Feb 19 2012, 05:30 PM.
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| The Red Shadow | Feb 19 2012, 06:35 PM Post #49 |
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Uncharted is the only game that interests me so far. But I've already decided that I'm waiting a long while before I get a Vita, if at all. I'd almost rather get a DSi. |
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| Mop it up | Feb 22 2012, 01:06 PM Post #50 |
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Sometimes I do stuff. Now, I need to say something on topic. Hm... What's the point of the PSPita? It has a bunch of games you can already get on PS3 and other systems. The whole "portable console" approach didn't really work with the PSP and Game Gear, and I doubt it'll work here. |
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| Matt | Feb 24 2012, 10:57 PM Post #51 |
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The main draw to it appears to be Uncharted: Golden Abyss... But I'm sure like the god of war PSP games, we will see it on the PS3/PS4 at most. It's quite funny you mention that though, because the two games that have my attention to the vita at the moment is the idea of a portable BlazBlue and UMvC 3. |
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| The Red Shadow | Feb 27 2012, 07:35 PM Post #52 |
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There has already been talk of a price drop. Apparently a research firm did a study and said sales would be boosted a lot by dropping the price to $180. I'm assuming that would be the Wifi only model. Anyway, I think it is pretty obvious that sales would be boosted by a price drop and I would surely be on board with that. It is a little odd to hear that talk already though. I guess it worked out all right for Nintendo with the 3DS. |
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| Norcal | Feb 27 2012, 07:54 PM Post #53 |
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| niniendowarrior | Feb 27 2012, 07:59 PM Post #54 |
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Well, there has been already approximate hardware production costs on the actual device and it's around $100+, so $180 sounds feasible. It will still put Sony at a loss most likely from R&D cost and marketing, but they may not have a choice. At $180, I will definitely forego the 3DS. The only thing that keeps me on the fence is the price tag. The 3DS price point right now makes a lot of sense while the Vita is a bit out of reach even though I perfectly understand the $250 price tag. |
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| Matt | Feb 27 2012, 10:58 PM Post #55 |
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The console is around £230 here, I'd love to get one for $250. The price for the unit itself isn't an issue for me, but what is the price of the memory cards and games. For the price of a vita game, I could get the same game for my 360 or my PS3. Seems I'd need quite a big memory card aswell, unsure about it elseware, but the copies of games that stores here are carrying are mostly just PSN download keys with the popular series (modnation,uncharted etc) being the only pysical copy |
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| floorcat | Jan 18 2013, 10:52 AM Post #56 |
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Spikie. PSN ID. NOW! |
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Now Playing: Clash Royale (mobile), Gravity Rush 2, Rayman Legends, Project CARS, Uncharted 4 Survival Mode ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
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| YogurtStorm | Jan 18 2013, 11:56 AM Post #57 |
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You guys got Sony smash bros? It's probably what I play most on my vita these days |
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| Matt | Jan 18 2013, 12:17 PM Post #58 |
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Nope sorry, my vita games are basically Metal Gear Solid HD Mortal Kombat Knytt Underground Big Sky Infinity Call of Duty BO Declassified Chronovault Uncharted Gravity Rush LittleBigPlanet |
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| YogurtStorm | Jan 18 2013, 01:36 PM Post #59 |
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Got a few of those! I do really like LBPV, i'd be down for some of that :-) ( hoping for a exclusive Twisted Metal game down the road ) |
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| Matt | Jan 18 2013, 01:40 PM Post #60 |
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This may sound completely stupid, but how do I even access the friends list on the vita? |
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