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Preppers (Bug Eating)
Tweet Topic Started: Mar 18 2013, 09:50 AM (1,072 Views)
YogurtStorm	May 14 2013, 11:47 AM Post #31
Your mom is a nice lady Posts: 1,957 Group: Senior Members Member #1,189 Joined: January 7, 2013	I must ask! If a baked crispy cricket on a plate is a 3 on 10, how does a living cricket screaming for it's life bid on the scale? I think that would be ( for me ) equal to eating a worm or something. I don't differenciate bugs much, I just stay as far away from them as I can...
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DeeMoney	May 14 2013, 04:09 PM Post #32
Outback Adventurer Posts: 6,734 Group: Admin Member #658 Joined: November 10, 2011	That's awesome Highlander. A true preppers meal. I wonder what kind of nutritional value they have. What do you keep them in? Are you able to share a photo of your setup??
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Highlander	May 15 2013, 02:20 AM Post #33
Scottish Member Posts: 480 Group: Senior Members Member #1,207 Joined: January 17, 2013	I don't think live crickets are an option, I could probably eat them but you should see the speed these things can move! Yeah i'll take some pics, I just keep them in old aquariums with covered lids, they can fly, although i've never seen them do it or even try it. BUT they can't climb up the glass sides, they just stay on the floor, which is another benefit over the locusts, they can climb the glass and hang upside down from the top of the tanks!
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DeeMoney	May 15 2013, 06:09 AM Post #34
Outback Adventurer Posts: 6,734 Group: Admin Member #658 Joined: November 10, 2011	I find this extremely interesting mate!! Can't believe you ate some tho. Maybe you could do a bug cooking and eating tutorial video!! No pressure mate
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Highlander	May 15 2013, 07:37 AM Post #35
Scottish Member Posts: 480 Group: Senior Members Member #1,207 Joined: January 17, 2013	Found some interesting info on insect nutrition : The food conversion ratio of most insects is 2:1 e.g. 2 Kg of feeding will produce 1 Kg of insects Here are the conversion ratios of other animals: 2:1 Chicken 2:1 Fish 3:1 Pig 5:1 Sheep 8:1 Cow So they are as efficient in turning food into bodyweight as chicken and some fish But whereas these animals require specialised feeding to attain that conversion ratio, crickets will do it eating any old food you give them, even grass!! So the cost of feeding insects can be virtually zero. There is very little processing involved in crickets, I bagged mine live, stuck them in the freezer, baked them and ate them. making a hamburger in the kitchen from a live cow is a bit more involved Here are some interesting nutritional values I found. all values are per 100g -----------------CALORIES---------PROTEIN---------FAT---------- Beef------------- 288 --------------- 26 -------------20----------- Chicken----------109 --------------- 22 ------------ 20 ---------- Fish ---------------84 --------------- 18 -------------- 1 ---------- Crickets ---------121 --------------- 13 -------------- 5 --------- Caterpillars ---- 430 --------------- 28 -------------15 ---------- Grasshoppers -- 257 --------------- 21 --------------3 ---------- So crickets are on a par nutritionally with chicken but with1/4 of the fat Edited by Highlander, May 15 2013, 07:38 AM.
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Matt	May 15 2013, 08:46 AM Post #36
Kick, Punch, It's all in the mind Posts: 2,532 Group: Legendary Member #55 Joined: January 3, 2007	This thread is making me feel queasy



The Red Shadow	May 15 2013, 09:15 AM Post #37
The Seeker Posts: 6,189 Group: Staff (Ret.) Member #120 Joined: February 4, 2008	This thread really "bugs" me. wakka wakka wakka



Phantom	May 15 2013, 09:31 AM Post #38
Veteran Posts: 1,833 Group: Senior Members Member #1,105 Joined: November 20, 2012	Lol Red. Even if they are a bit better i think ill stick to chicken for the time being



YogurtStorm	May 15 2013, 10:20 AM Post #39
Your mom is a nice lady Posts: 1,957 Group: Senior Members Member #1,189 Joined: January 7, 2013	Man, after reading all that I can't help but think that if we weren't so "intelligently" selective, clearly insects would be the most effective quick snack ever. I almost once tried a creepy larva-in-a-lollipop but then I remembered I have a psychotic fear of insects, so I passed. I think it's the fact that their eyes are usually huge and protruding whilst they seem to live with only goo as organs. I gotta say this thread is making me curious though
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sanni	May 15 2013, 11:21 AM Post #40
Senior Member Posts: 639 Group: Senior Members Member #762 Joined: February 21, 2012	The thing about evolution is that millions of years ago some humans probably tried eating insects and they all became extinct because eating other animals proved to be the better evolutionary road. And thats why we all today don't eat insects But hey if you think you know better than evolution go ahead Interesting thread though



DeeMoney	May 15 2013, 06:08 PM Post #41
Outback Adventurer Posts: 6,734 Group: Admin Member #658 Joined: November 10, 2011	Actually insects are still eaten in a lot of Asian countries. You can get them from any road side market and you often see people hooking into a big locust or something. Great information Highlander. This might be something I have a crack at in the future. Might be a good diet supplement for people trying to lose weight.
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Highlander	May 16 2013, 02:42 AM Post #42
Scottish Member Posts: 480 Group: Senior Members Member #1,207 Joined: January 17, 2013	sanni May 15 2013, 11:21 AM The thing about evolution is that millions of years ago some humans probably tried eating insects and they all became extinct because eating other animals proved to be the better evolutionary road. And thats why we all today don't eat insects But hey if you think you know better than evolution go ahead Interesting thread though Actually thats not the case, its far easier both in workload, manpower and cost to farm insects rather than animals, which is i guess why in poorer countries they eat insects rather than animals. Half of the world population still eat insects and have done so very successfully since the beginning of time. The "developed world" has evolved by harvesting and managing better resources and have dropped the insect eating, which i can understand in a way. As farming developed, vegetables, fruit, chicken, beef and pork became more affordable and sustainable we had no need to live on less tasty insects. The older members of my family can still remember the time when chicken, pork and beef was a rare and expensive luxury, so its not that long ago that meat became the cheap foodsource it is today. As much as I quite liked the crickets, if there were a choice between 1000 calories of crickets and 1000 calories of nice T-Bone steak then theres no contest.. However if I'm living in a poor area with poor resources trying to feed my family then using 4 times the amount of feeding to produce 1000 calories of T-Bone steak than i would to produce 1000 calories of crickets is a no brainer. In fact i'll take that a stage further, I live in Scotland, we have a lot of rain here and a pretty good climate which helps us grow crops, fruit, veg, rear animals and produce these food stuffs fairly cheaply. I have a job and live very comfortably compared to people in under developed countries, however I still couldn't afford T-bone steak for my whole family every day, its a little luxury we have now and again. If as I suspect a food crisis does happen, animal feed costs will rocket, production will reduce dramatically and meat will again become very expensive, probably too expensive for us. On a side note, up until 7 years ago I ran a broiler chicken farm with 250,000 chickens for the meat industry. At that time the cost of the feeding per tonne was around �150, its now over �500 (in 7 years) So, we are eating meat because we can afford to, we can sacrifice the cost of feeding efficiencies so that we can eat steak,chicken and pork but it may soon come to the stage where we can't. I'm not saying beef will suddenly get expensive and the next day we'll be eating caterpillars but if ever got to the stage where vegetables and fruit got too expensive then we might have to look to the insect world. Anyway, i'm off for a Big Mac, bacon and cheese
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Grizzmeister	May 16 2013, 09:51 AM Post #43
Latter-day Nostradamus Posts: 3,243 Group: Legendary Member #457 Joined: March 8, 2011	If global warming science is correct we may all be eating insects sooner rather than later. Food supply under assault as climate heats up
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YogurtStorm	May 16 2013, 09:57 AM Post #44
Your mom is a nice lady Posts: 1,957 Group: Senior Members Member #1,189 Joined: January 7, 2013	Yeah I think it's safe to say that if we look at history... Right now, in the 21st century, we are living almost assuredly better than anyone 50 years ago, or even longer ago. I can only wonder now if things get worse from here, as they should, or if society brightens up and moves forward to an even more respectable future. Also, thanks Highlander your thread is a good morning brain-starter! Edited by YogurtStorm, May 16 2013, 09:57 AM.
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Grizzmeister	May 16 2013, 06:37 PM Post #45
Latter-day Nostradamus Posts: 3,243 Group: Legendary Member #457 Joined: March 8, 2011	Back when I lived up in Maryland the local delicacy was Chesapeake Bay crabs. We'd often steam them with Old Bay Seasoning which gave them a delightfully spicy flavor making them a perfect compliment to ice cold beer. I bring this up only because many people are turned off at the thought of eating crabs because they kinda look like a big bug. Personally I love their flavor although I hear they're high in cholesterol. Oh, with respect to being a prepper, I'm woefully unprepared as I don't even have bottled water stockpiled. I believe I got my attitude from having grown up in the Washington, DC area most of my life and being constantly reminded that if nuclear war ever broke out we'd be fried in the initial blast. After that I developed sort of a devil may care attitude and tried merely to live every day to its fullest. In such an attempt I've traveled to places like Ireland to kiss the Blarney Stone or to the ancient Mayan city of Chichen Itza to climb a pyramid. Those were just a couple of things that I really wanted to do before shuffling off this mortal coil.
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