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The Wii U Topic
Tweet Topic Started: Jun 19 2011, 06:14 PM (21,249 Views)
Striker	Nov 30 2013, 08:27 PM Post #391
Senior Member Posts: 242 Group: Senior Members Member #1,522 Joined: May 22, 2013	I am not surprised fellas. Nintendo has to step it up and fire lots of people, their marketing and sales have no clue as to what the heck they are doing. All they're doing is promoting half-hearted products (example, Mario 3D which is essentially a 3DS title) Not one thing was done in order to fully show the potential of this system, and as a sales guy myself, I can tell you that they've done a ton wrong. 1. Release day= half-hearted. A year before the new gen titles it is supposed to compete with? Goes to show you that they have no chance or interest in competing for your business. 2. The big mistake= release titles. Who cares about Nintendo Land or whatever other crummy game they came out with- do you guys? Most likely not. Wonderful 101? I doubt this load sold anything well worth mentioning. I loved Pikmin 3....thats where it stops. GIVE ME AN OPEN MARIO WORLD GAME (Mario 64 anyone?) 3. Promotion and name. I watch regular cable every night, most notably History channel thats watched by millions and i have yet to see any Wii U commercials. The half :donkey:'d name that they made up over a sushi lunch one afternoon. Zero thought process in respect to the potential hazards it may develop down the road if they do go with such a name. All of these problems are easy to resolve and even easier to resolve due to the fact that Nintendo has one thing that no other console gaming company presently has. History; and a marvelous one. How easily they could use that to their advantage is unreal. From commercials, promotions, phenomenal release titles, etc etc. Wii U sells poorly and will continue to sell poorly because the lazy :cussfit:* at Nintendo wanna sit back with some sake and collect the big $$$$. It is a proven formula that titles sell consoles, and with two-three good games, it isn't enough. Edited by bluedogrulez, Dec 1 2013, 11:23 AM.
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Grizzmeister	Nov 30 2013, 09:11 PM Post #392
Latter-day Nostradamus Posts: 3,243 Group: Legendary Member #457 Joined: March 8, 2011	I agree with most of what Striker wrote although I think the biggest mistake Nintendo made was not having a truly spectacular game available for the Wii U at launch.
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hockeylife21	Nov 30 2013, 09:58 PM Post #393
Senior Member Posts: 703 Group: Senior Members Member #969 Joined: August 26, 2012	Grizz, let me put this into perspective. Japaneese home console sales have been declining ever since the 5th gen (ps1, n64, saturn) The Wii U before 3d world had around 1m sales units which is awful but considering 3d world sold 100k in the first 3 days alone, without digital sales being included thats a 10% attatch rate which is pretty good. The game sold good in america. Trust me this is all doom and gloom I mean they're reporting 3 day sales and saying the game won't sell more than that. Its a game that will sell for years to come and again that is japan where the home console market is doing terrible in regards to everything.



Cabanon	Nov 30 2013, 10:40 PM Post #394
Elite Posts: 4,585 Group: Legendary Member #505 Joined: May 8, 2011	Grizzmeister Nov 30 2013, 06:42 PM Maybe Nintendo should drop the price of the 32 GB Wii U down to $250 to stay in the game. I'm sure Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros. 4 will boost sales but neither of those games will be released before the 2nd quarter of next year. even at 250$, I wouldnt buy it yet. i'd wait 'til more games comes out, next year. at 200$, i'd pull the plug right away.



Striker	Nov 30 2013, 11:04 PM Post #395
Senior Member Posts: 242 Group: Senior Members Member #1,522 Joined: May 22, 2013	They can be selling the console for $5 tomorrow. If there are no games worthy of owning the system for, the price is immaterial. People wont buy a discount, they'll purchase value and discounts is the only good thing the Wii U presently offers.
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DeeMoney	Dec 1 2013, 05:20 AM Post #396
Outback Adventurer Posts: 6,734 Group: Admin Member #658 Joined: November 10, 2011	I don't see them dropping there price any time soon. Nintendo are bleeding money with the lack of sales. The cost to produce a console isn't viable for a price decrease at any stage in the near future. Nintendo I think have gone back to the same well too many times. Everyone who grew up with the Nintendo has sadly moved on to more modern gaming. Plus kids today aren't interested in playing Mario when they can quite easily play COD. Sadly Nintendo haven't grown with the times and they are suffering badly because of it. Mario and Zelda were fantastic when they were your only choices, but these days people are spoiled for choice, and the favourite has switched to games with more realism. There are still a small percentage of people that support the old school, but when they eventually stop gaming, where does that leave Nintendo and there outdated philosophy on gaming.
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Grizzmeister	Dec 1 2013, 09:11 AM Post #397
Latter-day Nostradamus Posts: 3,243 Group: Legendary Member #457 Joined: March 8, 2011	Sounds like Nintendo needs a second-party developer (like Rareware used to be) for grittier more progressive content. If Mario isn't enough to keep modern video game audiences interested then Nintendo needs to do something drastic to remain relevant. I like the Wii U and I'm sure I'll get one when my favorite franchises are represented on it but if I could only own one modern console it would probably be the PS4.
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kartmaster	Dec 1 2013, 09:30 AM Post #398
Coffee Drinker Posts: 2,024 Group: Moderators Member #1,870 Joined: October 27, 2013	I've had a Wii U since launch, and sadly it's spent a lot of time, just looking good next to my TV. I just need more games to play on it! I will probably be picking up 3D World after Christmas some time. But other than that and Mario Kart 8, there's not a whole lot coming up I'm super excited about. One of my absolute favorite features is the Virtual Console. But even that is leaving me disappointed. If you have VC games on the Wii you've already purchased, you have to remove them from your Wii to put them on the Wii U (Under the Wii mode). THEN if you want to upgrade them so you can use them on the Wii U VC, you have to pony up a $1 each. So if I want to keep my games on my Wii, I have to re-purchase them entirely on the Wii U... and most of that is impossible because the Wii U VC library is diminutive. Only a handful of NES and SNES games are available. I really believe it's a good piece of hardware. There's a lot of potential... just sitting there. Unfortunately Nintendo and other developers don't seem anxious or even willing to tap into it.
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Grizzmeister	Dec 1 2013, 09:36 AM Post #399
Latter-day Nostradamus Posts: 3,243 Group: Legendary Member #457 Joined: March 8, 2011	kartmaster Dec 1 2013, 09:30 AM I really believe it's a good piece of hardware. There's a lot of potential... just sitting there. Unfortunately Nintendo and other developers don't seem anxious or even willing to tap into it. It's very troubling that even Nintendo doesn't know how to take full advantage of the Wii U's gamepad.
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bluedogrulez	Dec 1 2013, 10:30 AM Post #400
Racing for Fulcon Capital Posts: 9,322 Group: Admin Member #281 Joined: March 8, 2010	Striker Nov 30 2013, 08:27 PM 3. Promotion and name. I watch regular cable every night, most notably History channel thats watched by millions and i have yet to see any Wii U commercials. Ha, I just saw a Mario & Sonic 2014 Winter Games commercial on Nick Jr. One thing adult gamers have to come to grips with is that Nintendo has NEVER marketed to them. Just ask yourself, how old was I when I first fell in love with the Big N? (i was about 13 and the NES was finally hitting its stride with great games like Mike Tyson's Punchout.
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Striker	Dec 1 2013, 10:32 AM Post #401
Senior Member Posts: 242 Group: Senior Members Member #1,522 Joined: May 22, 2013	I can confidently guess that this Mario game is not enough to save the Wii U and produce a dramatic increase in sales. I am not blown away and i am not entirely disappointed. Why is it so hard to produce a proper, 3D, open world Mario game. Could guys just for a second imagine what a Mario 64 sequel could look like? Could you imagine if there was a proper developer like Rare and the stuff they would be making? I believe the only reason Nintendo is still around is due to soccer moms buying 3DS consoles for little Jimmy so he can play in the mini van. I'm just ticked off because Nintendo can easily do much, much better if they had the proper people. Quite frankly they need a mastermind like Miyamoto to be President/CEO NOT someone that has a University degree- that teaches you principles and theories. Edited by bluedogrulez, Dec 1 2013, 11:24 AM.
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bluedogrulez	Dec 1 2013, 01:12 PM Post #402
Racing for Fulcon Capital Posts: 9,322 Group: Admin Member #281 Joined: March 8, 2010	Another thing to keep in mind is the fickle nature of the media. The first paragraph describes a much different outlook that the doomsday article posted by The Red Shadow: Mario Kart 8 Release Date
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Matt	Dec 1 2013, 04:47 PM Post #403
Kick, Punch, It's all in the mind Posts: 2,532 Group: Legendary Member #55 Joined: January 3, 2007	I don't think the Wii U is doomed, but I don't think it will be successful either. Nintendo need to give the Wii U something new like Mario Galaxy etc if they want it to succeed, and porting stuff like Smash Bros to 3DS aswell isnt helping the sales.



hockeylife21	Dec 1 2013, 07:22 PM Post #404
Senior Member Posts: 703 Group: Senior Members Member #969 Joined: August 26, 2012	Exactly what matt said. Itll turn out like the 64/gamecube. It wont make them a big profit but theyll probably either break even or just make a bit of profit. With how good the 3ds is doing it isn't that big of a deal if they don't make a lot of money on the system. I think if you really look at it the last true successful nintendo home console was the snes. The wii was just based on the fact that the marketing was good and everyone was obsessed with motion for some stupid reason. The gamecube and n64 failed due to 3rd party support, but here we are on a forum for a system that wasn't very successful loving all the games it had. My point is just because it sells poorly doesn't mean we won't see good software. It'll come



Cabanon	Dec 1 2013, 09:32 PM Post #405
Elite Posts: 4,585 Group: Legendary Member #505 Joined: May 8, 2011	my wife tried Super Mario World 3D today and she was hooked to it. needless to say she want one now lol. the thing is, I want it in red and I dont see it happening sooner or later, which suck. At least I have the ok to buy one when it'll be the right time !



Grizzmeister	Dec 1 2013, 10:23 PM Post #406
Latter-day Nostradamus Posts: 3,243 Group: Legendary Member #457 Joined: March 8, 2011	I suspect some people who can't find an Xbox One or PS4 this holiday season are going to pick up a Wii U to play the brilliant Super Mario 3D World.
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DeeMoney	Dec 1 2013, 11:25 PM Post #407
Outback Adventurer Posts: 6,734 Group: Admin Member #658 Joined: November 10, 2011	I think you may be off the mark quite a bit Grizz. Super Mario 3D world is not a console seller. Grant it, it may be a decent game but it's just another Mario game in a long line of Mario games. Edited by DeeMoney, Dec 2 2013, 01:55 AM.
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action	Dec 2 2013, 02:48 AM Post #408
Senior Member Posts: 578 Group: Closed Account Member #1,394 Joined: April 7, 2013	there is no denying that the nintendo brand is the strongest ever, in video games. take a look at the retro game scene; playstation / xbox games are dirt cheap, while games on nintendo systems generally are more expensive, and keep their value. and that goes even for the third party games. the VC should be vastly upgraded with cult classics like vampire's kiss, demon's crest etc... you should be able to play ALL the snes / N64 / gamecube classics on your gamepad. development cost is close to nil, it's just developing a emulation program for the gamepad, and then dump the whole lot of roms on the VC. everyone would want a wii U. then the odd new classic here and there (a good one, no half baked tripe like skyward sword), and they are off for some golden times so apparently they released an update that lets you play VC games on your gamepad but you need a wii mote to play them?? that's actually mind boggling. why would i use a wiimote to play a game directly on my gamepad? it's incredible you're not able to play them with the buttons of your gamepad Edited by action, Dec 2 2013, 02:59 AM.



jonebone	Dec 2 2013, 06:44 AM Post #409
Senior Member Posts: 717 Group: Senior Members Member #465 Joined: March 17, 2011	I'm surprised at the negativity in here. Of course Super Mario 3D is a console seller! I'm living proof. I've been hating on the Wii U for awhile but I finally got a reason to buy one. Word on the street is that eBay will have a Wii U bundle at $250 sometime today, and if I catch that deal it's a no brainer buy. If not, I'll probably just cave and pay $300 for the Luigi / Mario bundle in store at Best Buy. My rule was to wait for 3 games worth playing... and that has been met now. I want to play New Super Mario Wii U, Pikmin 3, and now Super Mario 3D Land. This is an easy buy for me since my wife can play co-op on the Mario games as well. As for people bashing initial Mario 3D Land sales, use your brain! Don't take statistics at face value, read into them a bit. Mario 3D Land released on Xbox One day. Most of the current gen gamers are your FPS diehards, so of course they are tied up in PS4 / Xbox One sales. Mario 3D Land released on Zelda Link to the Past day too! I like Mario, but I'm a bigger Zelda fan. Also, you can get the Zelda bundle for about $200, where the Wii U + 3D Land = $360. In the economy, most people will spring for the cheaper option. I've now played and beat Zelda and it is time for me to get the Mario game. Watch Wii U sales over the next quarter, through Xmas and January. Wii U sales are definitely going to take off a bit. Bump this thread in a couple of months and we can talk then Edited by jonebone, Dec 2 2013, 06:45 AM.



Grizzmeister	Dec 2 2013, 08:23 AM Post #410
Latter-day Nostradamus Posts: 3,243 Group: Legendary Member #457 Joined: March 8, 2011	jonebone Dec 2 2013, 06:44 AM Of course Super Mario 3D is a console seller! I'm living proof. I've been hating on the Wii U for awhile but I finally got a reason to buy one. Word on the street is that eBay will have a Wii U bundle at $250 sometime today, and if I catch that deal it's a no brainer buy. If not, I'll probably just cave and pay $300 for the Luigi / Mario bundle in store at Best Buy. I love it when my statement is so quickly vindicated in a thread! Yeah, Nintendo will certainly move some Wii U's this holiday season as Mario speaks to the inner child in even the most hardened gamer. Besides, Nintendo always markets their console to the young and the young at heart and that formula keeps working for them. Remember when the pundits predicted that the 3DS was going to be a failure?
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jonebone	Dec 2 2013, 08:39 AM Post #411
Senior Member Posts: 717 Group: Senior Members Member #465 Joined: March 17, 2011	Bah, just realized the $250 Wii Us went live at midnight, all 2,000 sold within 12 minutes. Pretty quick sale for a system that isn't selling well. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Wii-U-32GB-Black-Deluxe-Set-w-Super-Mario-U-Super-Luigi-U-/301028127084 So much for that... was definitely a buyer at $250 but now I'll mull over $300. Though Best Buy is running a deal today of $10 gift card for every $100 purchased. I could pay the full $300 then get $30 in gift cards and maybe apply that to Super Mario 3D Land at least. Edited by jonebone, Dec 2 2013, 08:40 AM.



bluedogrulez	Dec 2 2013, 04:22 PM Post #412
Racing for Fulcon Capital Posts: 9,322 Group: Admin Member #281 Joined: March 8, 2010	Some love for the Wii U.
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DeeMoney	Dec 2 2013, 04:39 PM Post #413
Outback Adventurer Posts: 6,734 Group: Admin Member #658 Joined: November 10, 2011	I really hope I'm wrong. I've had a Wii U since launch and it would be good to see some decent games come to the system. It's good to see that 2000 sell so quickly, I'm guessing the old girl might have some life left in her yet.
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YogurtStorm	Dec 2 2013, 05:00 PM Post #414
Your mom is a nice lady Posts: 1,957 Group: Senior Members Member #1,189 Joined: January 7, 2013	I'll probably cave in somewhere down the line, probably closer to the Super Smash Bros release... If they make a SSB edition bundle, I'm insta-sold
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Cabanon	Dec 3 2013, 08:48 PM Post #415
Elite Posts: 4,585 Group: Legendary Member #505 Joined: May 8, 2011	Im pretty surprised to see that many Zelda bundle still available about every stores I go to. target, futureshop. bestbuy & walmart all have it in stock. guess they made alot more than hey should or it's just not selling at all.



The Red Shadow	Dec 3 2013, 08:58 PM Post #416
The Seeker Posts: 6,189 Group: Staff (Ret.) Member #120 Joined: February 4, 2008	Must be a location thing. Those bundles are sold out around my town.



Grizzmeister	Dec 3 2013, 09:20 PM Post #417
Latter-day Nostradamus Posts: 3,243 Group: Legendary Member #457 Joined: March 8, 2011	Cabanon Dec 3 2013, 08:48 PM Im pretty surprised to see that many Zelda bundle still available about every stores I go to. target, futureshop. bestbuy & walmart all have it in stock. guess they made alot more than hey should or it's just not selling at all. My local Gamestop still has 'em in stock. I know cuz I was just in there today playing their PS4 demo. Not releasing a Super Mario 3D World bundle here in the States was a HUGE mistake.
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The Red Shadow	Dec 3 2013, 09:37 PM Post #418
The Seeker Posts: 6,189 Group: Staff (Ret.) Member #120 Joined: February 4, 2008	Walmart is giving a $25 gift card with the purchase of the New Super Mario/New Super Luigi U Bundle and we got a shipment of those in that have been selling pretty well over the weekend.



clarky_n64	Dec 4 2013, 01:50 AM Post #419
Modding Monster Posts: 2,184 Group: Staff (Ret.) Member #366 Joined: September 27, 2010	I'm glad the Wii U is getting this aswell as the other big consoles: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Watch-Dogs-Nintendo-Wii-U/dp/B00CEOUMZS
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Nuno	Dec 4 2013, 06:15 AM Post #420
Veteran Posts: 1,163 Group: Senior Members Member #1,034 Joined: October 7, 2012	Yeah, Ubiusoft are nice guys and get along with Nintendo! Not like...EA

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