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| Grizzmeister | May 7 2014, 08:46 PM Post #631 |
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Played Super Smash Bros. Brawl on-line today via the Wii U and it was probably the smoothest most lag free connection I've ever had while playing the game. Coincidence? 
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| bluedogrulez | May 8 2014, 12:20 PM Post #632 |
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Wii U: Nintendo Infinity? Nice 
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| DeeMoney | May 8 2014, 06:01 PM Post #633 |
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I don't get the hype surrounding all of that. To me it just seems like another gimmick that isn't really going to drive up sales. I think Sony and Microsoft are proving that people really want a console a controller and less gimmicky stuff. I mean the tablet is ok, but when I'm forced to use it instead of a controller it can be quite annoying. The tablet is perfect for navigating the menus, but for playing games, IMO it's just too big. |
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| Grizzmeister | May 8 2014, 06:25 PM Post #634 |
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I haven't owned my Wii U very long but I tend to agree with DeeMoney; Nintendo would have been wise to sell the Wii U for $100 less and with the Wii Pro Controller rather than the gimmicky gamepad. |
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| The Red Shadow | May 8 2014, 06:28 PM Post #635 |
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It almost seems like Nintendo has become the gaming equivalent of M. Night Shyamalan. They seem to want to include a "twist" with their new consoles and people are no longer enthralled with the payoff. |
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| DeeMoney | May 8 2014, 06:37 PM Post #636 |
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They could drop the price Grizz, but then they have the issue of contributing to there massive financial loses that they reported on other day. They've dug themselves a hole with this console, I just hope they start listening to the people, and it may be time to move Satoru Iwata on. He clearly isn't the man to lead Nintendo into the future at this point. |
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| Kamikaze | May 9 2014, 12:01 AM Post #637 |
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Okay, I have been thinking about getting a WiiU for a long time. Finally made up my mind; it's going to be the Zelda pack, mainly because of the looks of the console (love the gold details). But I'm in a doubt again. A few days back I saw a refurbished set with Nintendoland for €150, whereas the Zelda bundle still is about €300. When looking at other stuff I could buy with that €150 I would save, I could buy; The legend of Zelda (€60) Super Luigi Bros U (€40) DK Country Tropical Freeze (€45) And have Nintendoland But... is it worth giving up the limited edition console and gamepad, and taking a risk on the refurbished one? I think it has issues due to bad ventilation, but I haven't asked (stupid me). What are your thoughts on it, as experienced WiiUsers? Edited by Kamikaze, May 9 2014, 12:03 AM.
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| Mk II | May 9 2014, 04:00 AM Post #638 |
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The location wasn't the problem; according to Nintendo it had accumulated too much dust & dirt in the vents so air did not circulate. The Wii U only has a tiny fan - which does help to keep the console quiet - but it does not have a lot of power. |
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| Grizzmeister | May 9 2014, 05:41 AM Post #639 |
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No wonder my Wii games run smoother on-line when played on the Wii U. The Wii U supports the newer 802.11n standard. You'll recall that the original Wii only supports up to 802.11g. |
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| floorcat | May 9 2014, 03:44 PM Post #640 |
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I think if Nintendo plays this out intelligently/correctly, this could be a hugely successful venture! (And as some of you could attest, I'm certainly no optimist when it comes to Nintendo.) From a Pokémon "gotta-catch-em-all" perspective, I could see these figurines really attracting the younger audience that Nintendo loves to (or can't help but) be associated with... as well as those OCD Nintendo collectors out there. As I've not had any interest in Skylanders/Disney Infinity, I likely won't be the target consumer for these as well... but I can certainly see the draw/benefit, if this plays out well. I'm not really into gimmicks, but even from a game-play perspective, I admit it would be enticing to have some in-game perk, like an automatic mushroom boost every lap in MK8, if you're Mario and have the Mario figure. |
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| Mk II | May 9 2014, 04:42 PM Post #641 |
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Agreed. I actually predicted something along these lines back when Skylanders was launched and again when the Wii U specs were first unveiled so i'm surprised it took them so long. Nintendo has the world's strongest "stable" of characters after Disney AND they know how to make good games. If they get the pricing right (ie pocket money level) they could wipe out Skylanders and Disney Infinity combined. Edited by Mk II, May 9 2014, 04:42 PM.
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| Nuno | May 10 2014, 05:23 AM Post #642 |
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I'm not sure Microsoft and Sony are proving that gamers want just a console and a controller. The WiiU was/is a failure because of several more important reasons and for me the only thing they are really proving is that gamers just want to play a different type of games and mostly that people follow hypes. Most people didn't even realized the WiiU launched whereas the PS4 and XboxOne had tons of consoles old before release. However, they're game libraries are a joke still. I do agree that I prefer to be given the choice (read, include it in the box!) to play with the Pro controller if possible. |
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| Grizzmeister | May 10 2014, 10:05 AM Post #643 |
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The Wii U isn't living up to its potential simply because of a lack of software. Once that situation is rectified things should improve. Mario Kart 8 will certainly help things along but Nintendo needs to insure a steady flow of games to keep the momentum going until Winter when Super Smash Bros. Wii U is scheduled to ship. |
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| bluedogrulez | May 10 2014, 11:08 AM Post #644 |
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And Bayonetta 2.... I know I'm a homer, but it's way too early to write off the Wii U. |
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| Nuno | May 10 2014, 11:46 AM Post #645 |
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I don't think I completely agree with that  The WiiU has several problems, marketing for example being a much bigger one than lack of software. The game library is an issue, no doubt, but it doesn't explain alone the distance between Nintendo and MS/Sony. |
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| Grizzmeister | May 11 2014, 06:58 AM Post #646 |
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Distance between Nintendo and MS/Sony? I don't understand what you mean, the Wii U has still outsold the Xbox One by a healthy margin.  With Mario Kart 8 being released at the end of this month and the HUGE fanbase for the franchise, I suspect the Wii U may even make up some lost ground on the PS4. |
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| DeeMoney | May 11 2014, 03:42 PM Post #647 |
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You know as well as anyone Grizz that the Wii U had a 12 month head start on the other consoles. Making up lost ground on the PS4 will never happen and the Xbox I can almost guarantee will have sold more than the Wii U before the end of the year. Not trying to drag down the Wii U, just being a realist here. Wii U sales have slowed to a crawl. Mario Kart will move some units, but not enough to jump the console up by too much at the end of the day. |
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| Mk II | May 11 2014, 04:17 PM Post #648 |
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Don't discount discounts! I bought my first "current-gen" Nintendo console (a Gamecube) when the street price was halved from 200 to 100 euro's Something similar will probably happen to the Wii U if sales don't pick up this year. But anyway, i don't rate a console on sales figures or hardware specs; i just look at the games. And if you don't really like FPS games the Wii U is by far the best option IMNSHO. (OK Ninty, i've done my part here, now hurry up and replace my broken Wii U before the MK8 release) Edited by Mk II, May 11 2014, 04:18 PM.
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| Grizzmeister | May 11 2014, 06:17 PM Post #649 |
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Discounts are VERY effective. I got my Deluxe 32 GB Wii U for $100 below the launch price by simply waiting until now to buy it. Perfect timing too as I'll have it set up and ready to go when Mario Kart 8 launches later this month.
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| Nuno | May 12 2014, 06:57 AM Post #650 |
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Deemoney said it all. The huge difference does exist. I still believe that MK8 and SBBU are console selling-games though. So I believe the numbers will boost a bit. |
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| Grizzmeister | May 12 2014, 07:40 AM Post #651 |
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Everybody agrees that the PS4 is an amazing value as it offers so much at a very reasonable price. Right now it's just a battle for second place and I believe the Wii U will take that slot as it compliments the PS4 so well. Let's wait until the dust settles from the Mario Kart 8 launch before we assess the Wii U's long-term prospects. However, with so many incredible IP's at Nintendo's disposal including Pokemon, Zelda and Super Smash Bros. I honestly don't see how the Wii U can fail. |
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| action | May 12 2014, 08:10 AM Post #652 |
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i agree. i have made the decision not to buy a nintendo console ever again that doesnt have a classic style controller, and ONLY a classic controller. my biggest mistake was buying a wii. i went WTF, what's up with all these sensors and tinly cables? and the pointer controller eats batteries. console software on that one was a massive pile of turds. even the big names sucked: metroid other m is best forgotten as quickly as possible (try to shoot missiles in boss fights in that one). DKC returns has major gameplay flaws: shake the controller to roll. wtf??? wario "the shake" dimension; again shake the controller to make basic movements. oh please, facepalm! when nintendo makes a new gamecube, with no gimmicks, i'm the first in line though 
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| Grizzmeister | May 12 2014, 08:19 AM Post #653 |
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I'll keep buying Nintendo consoles as long as they continue to release fantastic games like Mario Kart Wii that offer the ability to be played with traditional and nontraditional control schemes. For example, Mario Kart 8 will support everything from the Wii U's gamepad to the Wii U Pro Controller and even the original Wii's Classic Controller Pro.
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| action | May 12 2014, 08:27 AM Post #654 |
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isnt the gamepad mandatory to operate the OS? if so, there you have it already i need to switch between two controllers to play a game. when i want to play a wii game, things get even worse as i need the nunchuck too. with the wii connected my gaming room quickly became cluttered with controllers, sensors and wires. a nunchuck that i didnt recall ever using, a wiimote, a classic controller, a classic controller pro, my gamecube controller for playing goldeneye... seems every game had its own set of controllers. then we had the ugly sensor that i had to position.. and the batteries i needed to have at hand. gone are the times when we needed one controller with six buttons and a directional pad. apparently someone at nintendo thought we like to shake stuff to play a game  |
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| Grizzmeister | May 12 2014, 08:31 AM Post #655 |
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Remember when people thought the N64's analog stick and Rumble Pak were gimmicky? 
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| action | May 12 2014, 08:33 AM Post #656 |
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except it was the most awesome controller design ever. it looked like a friggin trident
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| bluedogrulez | May 12 2014, 08:35 AM Post #657 |
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@action: Tsk, tsk. I know I'm marginalizing myself with the non-hardcore, but here it goes. The first time I took a swing with the wiimote in Wii Sports Baseball, I thought is was magic. This is how it should have been all along. Same with using the wiimote to steer in Mario Kart. Simple, logical, responsive, cool. Lightsaber duels, golf, love 'em. And after I got a recharger (the Nyko one that glows), my battery consumption ended. I do not condone the "shake" controls you reference, I totally agree with you there. The wiimote evolved gaming (in a different branch if not directly forward). I think the gamepad will do the same for casual gamers, but time will tell. I still think it's pretty neat. |
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| Nuno | May 12 2014, 10:06 AM Post #658 |
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I mostly agree with Bluedog both in opinion and taste. And I guess most of all this comes down to personal taste. Some think that shaking the wiimote around is an unnecessary childish thing, others find it cool. I feel like I'm in the middle. On the one hand I recently played games like LoZ:TP, Mario Galaxy, WiiU Sports (Golf and Tennis) and it plays amazing with the wiimote. And other great games do too. On the other hand sometimes it does feel unnecessary as certain moves don't give you the same satisfaction as swinging the sword or a club. Sometimes I'm a bit tired and I feel like laying on my back, which I can only do with a traditional controller. Oh, and you should have seen me trying to play Brawl with the Wiimote for the first time! It felt so unnatural! Oh, and once again we can use the perfect example of this. The beloved playstation controller. Most love it. I don't like it (hate it...). Bottom line, I like the innovation as it adds a lot to modern gaming but I'd love not to have to buy separately the Pro Controller. Also, Action mentioned the need of the Gamepad to access the OS. I do know we can skip the WiiU menu if playing a Wii game using only the Wiimote. I'm not sure about WiiU usage only. |
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| Grizzmeister | May 12 2014, 05:36 PM Post #659 |
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My goal is always to view every new Nintendo console with an open mind. I did that with the Wii and I was pleasantly surprised at how fun motion controls can be. I also liked the fact that family members who normally wouldn't play video games got involved. Better yet, my Wii was backwards compatible which allowed me to finally enjoy some of the fantastic GameCube games I'd missed when they were originally released. The Wii U seemed a little off-putting at first too but now that I have one I really like it. My original Wii software looks and plays brilliantly on it and there's the promise that games like Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros. IV alone will amortize the cost. If I get something like a F-Zero or Wave Race in 1080p than that will be pure gravy that makes the Wii U more than a wise investment. Right now I'm literally counting down the days until MK8 is released because I feel certain it's going to be something really special. Hopefully some of you will join me for some fun on-line races so we can experience Nintendo's development genius together as a group.
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| Mk II | May 12 2014, 05:58 PM Post #660 |
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No way! It's the only console that ever got me laid  Also, Super Mario Galaxy.
trust me: it is. i've only seen it being played but couldn't believe my eyes; it looked so breathtakingly good. ANd the guys who played it said the controls were really tight as well. Edited by Mk II, May 12 2014, 06:05 PM.
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