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N64 Ultra HDMI Adapter: Released!!; N64 Console with HDMI Output
Topic Started: May 7 2015, 08:06 PM (4,225 Views)
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"Designed by the team behind the 64drive flash cartridge, RetroActive first revealed this upcoming HDMI modification back in February 2014. Originally set to provide the console with a DVI-out port, the modification has since come on leaps and bounds with what appears to be a more tidy installation combined with a new Mini-HDMI out slot instead. By connecting directly to the Reality Coprocessor chip on the system's mainboard, the Ultra HDMI directly captures video output as digital RGB to provide up to 1080p HDMI output with audio...." Read the rest here: http://www.retrocollect.com/News/retroactives-ultra-hdmi-nintendo-64-adapter-coming-soon.html

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The website is really well done, and I love the fact that people create this. Its an great idea!

Before I celebrate this, I also had experience with HDMI-converters/Sharp images/framerate converters and so on , the the thing about this is .
THEY ARE EXPENSIVE,

the best one which is for sale is around 300 usd. which I think I rather have an old tv from the 90s.

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great news. ima sure to test it when it comes out with a junk console before attempting on mine
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The most frequently asked question here is how in the world do I hook up my N64 to an HDTV. Heaven knows, there is no good answer. But soon, there may be.

The Ultra HDMI project seems to be in the home stretch. Its essentially a board and HMDI outlet that gets installed into your N64 console. Yep, soldering and dremeling required. But this looks to be a mod well worth the effort. Check out this episode of My Life in Gaming starting at the 12-minute mark:

You can learn more about the Ultra HDMI project here, and subscribe for updates (a release date and pricing would be swell).

Does this pique your interest?!?
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Also worthy of note... our humble forum gets referenced in that video, at the 7:45 mark!! :yeah:
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I'm so excited for this but at the same time worried about the price! :wub:
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I don't care about the price! HDMI cables for the 64 is a win! :rofl:
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im :cussfit: interested.
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I actually have been watching their videos alot here recently. I have purchased all of the things they say to get the best picture out of everything. Scart cables, X-RGB Mini etc. I recently got my NES modded for RGB also, so needless to say I have been working on getting the best picture out of all my systems. N64 is the only one giving me problems :P I have an RGB modded one on the way but I believe I will mod my funtastic green N64 with the Ultra HDMI. That seems like the best way to play N64 games without using emulation.
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I have to say that I am a little hyped about this and because I love N64 I think it would be cool that the version actually play on is High End. On the other hand, I never seemed to mind about the Grafics that much I just loved the games. I don't need a filter to make it look like a tube TV, I have a Tube TV! :D

So basically for me this would be pure luxury, I may consider buying one when I see the price.
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Love the fact they referenced us, but disappointed they did not listen. Jungle green funtastic is where its at!!!!
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Oct 26 2015, 12:33 PM
pricing would be swell
What I think, nothing official though, is that pricing is around $130 wholesale per unit + labor costs of the installer + profit margin of the installer + sales tax. So I would guess around $200 all in all ... or more.
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I saw this video last night, really interested in this but not sure I'm up to doing the mod myself but we will have to see.
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Oct 27 2015, 06:32 AM
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Oct 26 2015, 12:33 PM
pricing would be swell
What I think, nothing official though, is that pricing is around $130 wholesale per unit + labor costs of the installer + profit margin of the installer + sales tax. So I would guess around $200 all in all ... or more.
Sanni, are you lined up to be an installer? ***FINGERS CROSSED***
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Oct 27 2015, 08:55 AM
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Oct 27 2015, 06:32 AM
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Oct 26 2015, 12:33 PM
pricing would be swell
What I think, nothing official though, is that pricing is around $130 wholesale per unit + labor costs of the installer + profit margin of the installer + sales tax. So I would guess around $200 all in all ... or more.
Sanni, are you lined up to be an installer? ***FINGERS CROSSED***
It would be nice to have our very own installer here. :D

Also, @bluedog can you link the thread about the funtastic video quality differences?
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I am fairly interested in this project. While I prefer to play on my CRT, looking years down the road at a time when working CRTs may be hard to find, this could be the only way to get the most "authentic" N64 experience.

So I'll just kinda be watching from the sidelines for now, but anxious to hear some first hand experiences when they're available.
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A little update. They have been out for less than month now and Marshall has shipped his first two batches out to installers. I've been waiting for this for a long time. I think they are doing it right by only selling to installers. Each kit has a serial number as well. One N64 showed up on ebay already. Serial: R1AJ030084 2015. Sold for $320 buyitnow. It wasn't installed by badassgames though and the soldering looked a little rough. Auction Number: 262186095167

I ordered my install from Badassgames. Just need to ship out my fire console tomorrow. As of right now he has 4 left. He had 18 on Friday. http://www.badassconsoles.com/ultrahdmi/

Going to do a full review once I get it back. Should be the beginning or middle of Jan.
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Badass did mine as well - I felt really comfortable with him doing it as his soldering & modding skills look extremely good in his videos.
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Super anxious to hear some first hand impressions!
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Badass did mine as well - I felt really comfortable with him doing it as his soldering & modding skills look extremely good in his videos.
I watched a few of his videos as well. It looked pretty good. Did you get yours back already?
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So here is a question from me ..
I own a import-converter that can appearently play import games on any N64 console

It works fine, but the problem is that the image itself of the japanese/NTSC games are black in white. PAL games are perfect in color. (but changes per system the japanese console can play NTSC/JAP games fine, but only PAL in black and white)

Would this UltraHDMI fix it?
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Mine should be with me in a week or so. I wanted to do a review here but my wife & I have made a pact - we're giving up forums, Facebook etc. to try and crawl back some of our lives from the internet!

I think it's safe to say the UltraHDMI is going to be very good & a probably no brainer for dedicated N64 enthusiasts without a CRT - hugely better than a standard connection. It's CRTs all the way for me though - just feels more authentic to me, and I just love that CRT glow!

RetroRGB did a nice piece here. The retro mode's hybrid scalines look amazing.

Most of my time on here has been on my CRT research thread & I'm at the end of my journey with that.

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out of stock. too bad they dont sell 'em seperately. shipping charge is simply too insane and would cost as much as the mode itself back and forth.
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Is there an installation guide anywhere on the net? Wanna see how tricky this would be.
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Guys DON'T buy any kind of HDMI output system in order to play N64.
The quality is still to low.
We have to wait years before the quality wil be comparable to CRT visuals.

If there is a way to underestimate N64 graphics is play N64 games in HD TV.
No matter how much the output is good, the quality will be poor.

Much better spend your time and money in a RBG N64 with a good CRT like Sony Trinitron or Panasonic Quintrix.
If you play N64 games on a good CRT you will be still amazed by the best N64 graphics.
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Guys DON'T buy any kind of HDMI output system in order to play N64.
The quality is still to low.
We have to wait years before the quality wil be comparable to CRT visuals.
There is some give and take with this. After watching RGB205's review of the ultra hdmi "cut to 17:18 where they talk about ultra hdmi versus CRT" from what I saw the difference wasn't much. Although the comparison they are showing I'm only viewing it on my HD TV and not seeing it next to a good CRT. It could look better on a pro CRT. My thing is, I'm not going to get a CRT, professional or not. They are just too large and heavy. A pro CRT will be well over the cost of this mod just for the TV. The cheapest routes are the TV's you mentioned. After you factor in the RGB mod install and cable you're looking at the same cost but now you have to play on "that" tv. I'm lazy but neat so I rather just have one TV for everything. It's really just for convenience. If it only helps me read some text I couldn't before playing Mario Party on my 60"' then that's good enough for me.
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See the difference between HDMI and a CRT in a YouTube video is impossible.
In that YouTube video you can't see the authentic CRT quality, but the CRT quality recorded, which is very different as it loses colours, luminosity and there is the flickering.

Believe me guys, compare with your eyes using the N64 RGB modified and connect it to a Sony Trinitron 27"/29".
There is absolutely no match, CRT is by far superior for now.

I'm waiting the day when CRT quality will be reached in HD TVs, but the day unfortunately is not arrived yet.

It's impossible understand the N64 graphics superiority in HD TVs.
I always repeat this because many people judge N64 graphics with the wrong bases in this way.

As we know a photo of a CRT loses a lot of quality, but please try to image these two pics with more quality, as they has in reality.

This is a NTSC N64 set-up of an Italian friend of mine, Cristiano Trotta. RGB + 29" Sony Trinitron
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This is another RGB set-up of another Italian friends of mine, Alessandro Simoncini. This time a PAL RGB modified console.
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Don't belive these videos guys. Use your eyes in real CRTs.
Understand the N64 difference between other console is impossible in HD TVs, I repeat this mantra.
If you use HD TVs, even with the best modern outputs, it's just a merely compromise.

PS Gamerjerome, this isn't a post against your, as a N64 lover I just advice people to play it in the best possible way :-P
But I understand the convenience fact.
A small sample of CRT quality, recorded by me.
Watch the video on 1080p and remember, on live, without flickering and with better quality, is another thing.

https://youtu.be/EF0UA3jWPq8
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unless usesr have it in hands, we should refrain from any kind of pro/con debate as it's pointless to do that from youtube videos has we all see it differently depending on what device we see it and our eyes are way different between each others.

you like it ? good for you ! you don't ? good for you too.
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The fact is more objective than this as the HDMI quality is surely more checkable in a YouTube video than a CRT quality.

CRT quality is much better, objectively much better.

Yes, of course, everybody can do what they want. But it's a duty of N64 forum's experts to be persuaded by this inconfutabile truth.

I often specificate this fact in order to let people informed by the fact that N64 graphics can be better than that, as they're spending money in HDMI output.
If they want to buy them I have no problem.

But I love to see the real N64 graphics.

Yes, HDMI are a good compromise. Not the best choice fot sure.
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