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N64 Ultra HDMI Adapter: Released!!; N64 Console with HDMI Output
Topic Started: May 7 2015, 08:06 PM (4,803 Views)
italia64
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Guys DON'T buy any kind of HDMI output system in order to play N64.
The quality is still to low.
We have to wait years before the quality wil be comparable to CRT visuals.

If there is a way to underestimate N64 graphics is play N64 games in HD TV.
No matter how much the output is good, the quality will be poor.

Much better spend your time and money in a RBG N64 with a good CRT like Sony Trinitron or Panasonic Quintrix.
If you play N64 games on a good CRT you will be still amazed by the best N64 graphics.
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See the difference between HDMI and a CRT in a YouTube video is impossible.
In that YouTube video you can't see the authentic CRT quality, but the CRT quality recorded, which is very different as it loses colours, luminosity and there is the flickering.

Believe me guys, compare with your eyes using the N64 RGB modified and connect it to a Sony Trinitron 27"/29".
There is absolutely no match, CRT is by far superior for now.

I'm waiting the day when CRT quality will be reached in HD TVs, but the day unfortunately is not arrived yet.

It's impossible understand the N64 graphics superiority in HD TVs.
I always repeat this because many people judge N64 graphics with the wrong bases in this way.

As we know a photo of a CRT loses a lot of quality, but please try to image these two pics with more quality, as they has in reality.

This is a NTSC N64 set-up of an Italian friend of mine, Cristiano Trotta. RGB + 29" Sony Trinitron
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This is another RGB set-up of another Italian friends of mine, Alessandro Simoncini. This time a PAL RGB modified console.
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Don't belive these videos guys. Use your eyes in real CRTs.
Understand the N64 difference between other console is impossible in HD TVs, I repeat this mantra.
If you use HD TVs, even with the best modern outputs, it's just a merely compromise.

PS Gamerjerome, this isn't a post against your, as a N64 lover I just advice people to play it in the best possible way :-P
But I understand the convenience fact.
A small sample of CRT quality, recorded by me.
Watch the video on 1080p and remember, on live, without flickering and with better quality, is another thing.

https://youtu.be/EF0UA3jWPq8
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The fact is more objective than this as the HDMI quality is surely more checkable in a YouTube video than a CRT quality.

CRT quality is much better, objectively much better.

Yes, of course, everybody can do what they want. But it's a duty of N64 forum's experts to be persuaded by this inconfutabile truth.

I often specificate this fact in order to let people informed by the fact that N64 graphics can be better than that, as they're spending money in HDMI output.
If they want to buy them I have no problem.

But I love to see the real N64 graphics.

Yes, HDMI are a good compromise. Not the best choice fot sure.
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I agree Kartmaster.

I'm waiting the day where the CRT quality will be reached and maybe overtaked in new TVs.
It will be a great day for me :-P
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Yes I don't say the on HDTV N64 sucks even with HDMI output.
It's surely a good compromise, especially if someone don't want a 100lbs Trinitron in the living room.

So yes, everyone can skip my advice.

But I'm a N64 gamer and lover, so not only I love to play N64 games and knowing their development story, etc. But I love to examine the graphics too.

This is almost impossible to do it properly with HDTV. For example, compare Resident Evil 2 on N64 and PS1 on CRT.
N64 version is easily recognizable as the superior one, even a kid can see it (in fact I was a kid when I compared them for the first time hehe).
But on HDTV them look the same game (aside the FMVs which are considerably better on the PS1 version even on HDTV).

Or try World Driver Championship, Perfect Dark and Turok 2 with HDMI output. Yes impressive games, maybe a bit of wow factor too, but nothing transcendental.
Well, try them on a 29" Trinitron with RGB and you won't believe to your eyes.

There is an Italian group where we share our opinions about graphics set-ups, etc.
Everyone who tried tue combo N64+RGB+Trinitron is absolutely persuaded about the unmatchable result, impossible to compare (so far, but in future things fortunately will change) with the best HDMI set-ups.

Please try All Star Baseball 2000 on CRT and after try it on HDTV. It's another game, believe me.

By the way, the difference changes game by game. 2D graphics and blurry graphics games are good on HDMI.

But please, check the difference of stuff like JFG, Perfect Dark, World Driver Championship, Turok 2, Conker, Tooie, etc.
These games on CRT look better than a lot of Dreamcast games, I'm not exaggerating.
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