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Color Display Problem with PAL 64
Topic Started: Jul 29 2017, 09:58 AM (437 Views)
SwedenTH
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Hey there! This is my first time on these forums, and I really need help with a problem that I have.
I tried my best to search for an earlier post on this and I didn't see one, but I hope I didn't screw up..

Anyway, here's the situation:
I have a new LG TV (the OLED55B6V, if it matters), and I'm trying to hook up all my consoles to it. When I bought the TV I also decided to get the best video quality out of all of them. I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to all the technical details, but I found out that most consoles have RGB output (and I live in Sweden, so that's fine) and then I put it all through an RGB SCART-switch and then a HDMI converter, and it works perfectly!

The N64 however does of course not have RGB, so I bought the special S-Video cable from ConsoleGoods and a S-Video to HDMI converter.
This seemed like the perfect solution, but I now have this really strange color display problem!..
Basically everything that is bright red on screen turns into a dark, almost brownish, green.

I have no idea what is causing this; and I know for a fact that it's not the console itself, as the composite (pulled through the same converter I might add, it has both S-Video and Composite via a switch) works perfectly color wise. But of course, that means that the quality upgrade was all for nothing...

(EDIT: Some additional information, which I'm not sure if it is relevant or not, but when I use this PAL S-Video with my SNES it gives me a black & white picture.)

I'd be eternally grateful for some insight in this problem!
Edited by SwedenTH, Jul 29 2017, 10:07 AM.
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andyk2003
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Nice new TV! I'd think it's probably the s-video to HDMI converter. To get to the bottom of this I would go here:

Shmups hardware


The guys here are among the most knowledgable on the net for this kind of stuff & they'll sort you out.

[Edit: you'd need to specify to them exactly what converter you're using.]
Edited by andyk2003, Jul 29 2017, 02:11 PM.
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SwedenTH
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Thanks Andy, I'll give it a shot!
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sanni
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A few solutions I would consider:
- Get someone to mod your N64 with an ultraHDMI Kit which gives you HDMI directly from the N64 console
- Or buy a XRGB Mini Framemeister, it's considered the best RGB and S-Video to HDMI converter for gamers
- Or get a PAL N64 modded with RGB output to use with your other converter that seems to work fine*
- Or wait for the N64 Mini rumored to come out next year

*You might also consider to switch your N64 console and games to NTSC, early NTSC console are easier to convert to RGB than PAL consoles and the NTSC games run at the native 60Hz instead of the slower PAL 50Hz.
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Great suggestions - one thing I ran across with the ultraHDMI is that the retro setting didn't look good with a friend of mine's 4K LG LCD. Perhaps it was the scaling engine but the scanlines were represented so harshly it was almost unwatchable - although the line doubled 'sharp pixels' setting was fine. Your LG might be different as it's an OLED and perhaps has a different scaler. I thought it was worth mentioning - It would be good to try one out first but that's easier said than done!
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SwedenTH
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Thank you for your suggestions, both of you! :)

As boring as it might sound I would personally rather keep my hardware unmodded, but I've seen some UltraHDMI showcases, and I agree that it really is something else!

Oh yeah, The Framemeister really something I wish I could buy! Sadly, I simply can't handle that kind of price tag at the moment, so that will be something to look forward to in the future hopefully!

There's one 'simple fix' that I'm curious about, which you guys might have some insight into; I was looking at a simple "S-Video & AV to SCART Adapter", and my question is simply if you know if the adapter will still separate Coma and Luminance, or if it will mash it back into one signal again?

Because if it works that might be my budget escape, until the Mini N64 Classic (hopefully) comes out, haha!
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Those simple scart adapters do not change the signal.

You got one more option that could help but it will be hard to find.

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It's a cable specifically made for the N64 that converts the signal into RGB. It is not as good in quality as a real RGB mod but it could help you. Now what I don't know is if it works with PAL N64 consoles or if it was only made for NTSC consoles.
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Wow. Nice pic sanni!

Despite the 3 different flag emblems on the box, it was made by BLAZE. That is the same company that made other peripherals for the N64 in the PAL regions, namely the UK.
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