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Kickstarter: Next Gen N64 Controller
Topic Started: Aug 10 2017, 06:52 PM (2,269 Views)
Rocky
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1247448559/next-gen-n64-nintendo-64-controller

"The Retro Fighters controller for N64 is a modern take on the N64 controller. We wanted to remake the N64 controller with next generation features and designs!"

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It just passed funding and looks pretty interesting. I'm skeptical of the build quality and the stick functionality and durability if it's only $20 but we'll see how it goes! What do you guys think?
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Aug 10 2017, 06:52 PM
I'm skeptical of the build quality and the stick functionality and durability if it's only $20 but we'll see how it goes! What do you guys think?
I'd need long term testing using it with GoldenEye 007, Super Smash Bros. and Wave Race 64 before I could form an educated opinion. Those games generally tell you how good a controller is. If somebody sends me one I'd gladly beta test it for them. ;)
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Honestly, it's not even for the N64. The main use is for PC emulators and such. Correct?
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Aug 10 2017, 08:06 PM
Honestly, it's not even for the N64. The main use is for PC emulators and such. Correct?
It's soley for the N64 as there's no USB connection.
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Ok. Thanks.

I wasn't sure seeing is how we don't see how it actually plugs in and plays.

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Cabanon
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kinda look good but i dont like modern controllers at all. the n64 is too perfect for me to "re-invent" them.

we'll see what colours they bring too since they're surpassed their goal already.
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This may at least cause Hori Mini Pad prices to drop. I'll probably get one, simply because it can be a controller I don't mind breaking-in to the point of it breaking. It would also be good for guest stars on Mario Kart and such since some people wouldn't want to bother 'learning' or 're-learning' the N64 game pad. I wish they'd have more color options up front, but w/e.
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Looks good. $20!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1247448559/next-gen-n64-nintendo-64-controller?ref=user_menu
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It does look neat but I wanna see how other people fare first. I got burned by the retro-bit, tomee and cirka ones so I'm a little cynical.
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@IB: feeling your pain there!

It looks intriguing, but non-analogue sticks are usually too sensitive. I'm wondering what Nintendo will do with the thumbstick for its inevitable N64 mini. Frankly, I cannot see Nintendo using an OEM-style stick . . . so I wonder how Big N's solution will compare with this one.

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Aug 14 2017, 09:09 AM
I'm wondering what Nintendo will do with the thumbstick for its inevitable N64 mini. Frankly, I cannot see Nintendo using an OEM-style stick . . . so I wonder how Big N's solution will compare with this one.
I'm very curious about this as well.
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Only one logical option: Switch Pro Controller sticks.

Remember all the Mini Consoles are just test runs for the virtual console coming eventually to the Nintendo Switch.
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I'm always a bit dubious of third party controllers as the mapping tends to be different from the official ones.

(Edit - sorry I meant the mapping and sensitivity of the thumstick)
Edited by andyk2003, Aug 14 2017, 11:18 AM.
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Aug 14 2017, 09:23 AM
Only one logical option: Switch Pro Controller sticks.

Remember all the Mini Consoles are just test runs for the virtual console coming eventually to the Nintendo Switch.
What do you mean by that? Did Nintendo say that was the purpose of the Mini's? I thought it was just a cheap way for them to make some cash (and inadvertently boost R-Pi sales).
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I'm confident that Nintendo thinks it's losing money on the Mini Consoles or else they would not make them in such a limited run.
The Club Nintendo Snes controller never sold below $30 a piece and they sold the SNES games for $8 on the Wii U Virtual Console. The SNES Mini has 21 games and two controllers, so that's a value of $230 without the console itself. Yet Nintendo sells the Mini for $80.

So there needs to be more to it than meets the eye here.
In my opinion the Mini consoles serve both as a marketing stunt and a test drive. They use the same family of CPU(ARMv7) as the Switch(ARMv8) so porting the emulators proven to be working on the Mini consoles to the Switch will be easy. Also with all the hype around them it is guaranteed that this will boost Virtual Console sales once it becomes available on the Switch. If everyone could get a Mini console no-one would need to buy Virtual Console games.

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Aug 15 2017, 12:20 AM
I'm confident that Nintendo thinks it's losing money on the Mini Consoles or else they would not make them in such a limited run.
The Club Nintendo Snes controller never sold below $30 a piece and they sold the SNES games for $8 on the Wii U Virtual Console. The SNES Mini has 21 games and two controllers, so that's a value of $230 without the console itself. Yet Nintendo sells the Mini for $80.

So there needs to be more to it than meets the eye here.
In my opinion the Mini consoles serve both as a marketing stunt and a test drive. They use the same family of CPU(ARMv7) as the Switch(ARMv8) so porting the emulators proven to be working on the Mini consoles to the Switch will be easy. Also with all the hype around them it is guaranteed that this will boost Virtual Console sales once it becomes available on the Switch. If everyone could get a Mini console no-one would need to buy Virtual Console games.

I don't think the Minis have much to do with the Switch, or with VC for that mattter.

The limited run is a classic marketing trick. Because of this, I'm sure more Minis are sold in it's limited run than it would have in - say 3 years - a normal run.
They're also not losing any money, because there are only a handful of people who actually buy all of the included games on VC. Also, these SoC's are cheap to manufacture, so they're making money in any case (maybe not as much money as all of the included games combined on VC, but as i said earlier, there aren't many people who would buy all those games anyway). Also, this is gold for people who like collecting Nintendo stuff. It sells anyway.

Also, the ARM CPU is unrelated, as it's pretty much the standard for handhelds and small devices nowadays (3DS and PSVita carry them too, and naturally the Switch, which tries so hard to be portable).


As for the controller subject of this thread, I actually like the design. If the build quality is decent and the buttons/analog are comparable to say the Hori Pad Mini (aside from the rubbish start-button), I'm sold.
I'll wait for the reviews first though. :rollseyes:
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I am amazed at the interest and support expressed toward this kickstarter. There are a lot of serious N64 gamers out there.
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I like the idea, and it looks ok. The price point makes me skeptical, but sure hoping this turns into a viable alternative to OEM controllers.
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Hopefully they nail this as I would be interested.
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Awesome idea. Like others have said I had it's a good controller.
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Got an update today, first from my competitive smash 64 Facebook peeps then from the kickstarter page itself. They are changing the design a bit.

I'm not sure if the original one I saw was a prototype using actual n64 controller buttons but they're going for a grey and red design that looks very NES-like to me. That's probably gonna change because it still looks unfinished.

The big deal, though, is they're changing the control stick's housing to have angles rather than a simple circle. Think the difference between the GameCube controller and the Wii U pro controller and you'll get what I mean as I find it hard to put into words.

Why is this a big deal? Because the company is taking feedback and making positive tweaks because of it. Maybe that's the advantage of using a kickstarter, but wouldn't know if any of these other controller companies like retro bit or corks would ever be this transparent. It makes me trust the company more and have higher hopes for a better product.
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I'm adopting a wait and see strategy with these new controllers. Admittedly, it's easy to be ambivalent when I've got so many N64 controllers already. :D

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I'm sceptical, but hopeful!
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These controllers should be out in a month or so. I'll be keen to see some reviews of the finished retail model after people have had a good play with it. If they're good, I'll definitely fork out for at least 1.
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Its short a prong :(
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Here's link to the Retro Fighters website. $29.99 retail price, which seems inviting. States a release date of March 2018, so not much longer....

. . . and here is a glowing review from RGT85:


(not showing, eh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=760&v=jgG0Z7pPu-I)
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Jan 18 2018, 11:59 AM
Here's link to the Retro Fighters website. $29.99 retail price, which seems inviting. States a release date of March 2018, so not much longer....

. . . and here is a glowing review from RGT85:


(not showing, eh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=760&v=jgG0Z7pPu-I)
The time stamp in your url seemed to mess up the embed code. :o



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Hey, i'm a fan of kickstarter, but one amateur MK64 powerslide from this guy?! :lol:
Hardly seems enough for a solid testimony. Am i wrong here?

Edited by No64DD, Jan 18 2018, 06:57 PM.
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Looks promising but i'll wait until some of you guys start getting your hands on it. If it functions as goods as an original then I will pick one up.
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If it functions exactly like an original they might be worth hacking to make them proper (three pronged) again :)
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