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N64 mini Predictions; Warning: Possible NaCl Exposure
Topic Started: Oct 12 2017, 12:11 PM (3,222 Views)
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^That... actually seems like a plausible lineup
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yep and a solid one of course. THAT, I would buy in a heartbeat.
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I thought they already revealed that it was for all the Wii U virtual console games. There was an article on Nintendolife all about it.

The only game i’m missing on that list though (and would make it an even 20) is smash 64. I know that technically it is outclassed by all its sequels but it’s still a classic dangit :) Other than that i’d be okay with this lineup.
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I want full 1080P output.
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Hmmm... That's a really believable line up.
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I know it'll never happen but wouldn't online multiplayer support for Mario Kart 64, Wave Race 64, F-Zero X and Super Smash Bros. make an N64 Mini a must-have. :)
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I know it'll never happen but wouldn't online multiplayer support for Mario Kart 64, Wave Race 64, F-Zero X and Super Smash Bros. make an N64 Mini a must-have. :)
Yes, yes it would.
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As much as i’d love for online play to be a thing, I can’t imagine any company taking the time to integrate it into a plug and play system.

Now if Nintendo were to release a dedicated “retro box” with an online store for their older games, like a Wii Virtual Console minus the Wii part, I could definitely see games getting those kinds of updates and i’d buy it in a heartbeat :)
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I know it'll never happen but wouldn't online multiplayer support for Mario Kart 64, Wave Race 64, F-Zero X and Super Smash Bros. make an N64 Mini a must-have. :)


That would be amazing, add Goleneye to the package and they can charge me whatever they wanted. Ah to dream :D
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I think that's rumored to be one of the reasons the "Virtual Console" for Switch is delayed - they're working on an online framework for a lot of the titles.
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I think that's rumored to be one of the reasons the "Virtual Console" for Switch is delayed - they're working on an online framework for a lot of the titles.
Really?! I hadn't heard that. It makes sense, though, since games like Mario Kart 64 and Super Smash Bros. are at their best when played against other real live people.
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Could Nintendo include 4 controllers at a $120 MSRP and still turn a profit on the N64 Mini? The more I think about it the more I feel the N64 Classic Edition has to ship with 4 controllers for games like Super Smash Bros., Mario Kart 64 and Mario Party 2. :huh:

Perhaps Nintendo will only include two controllers in the box and sell others individually. That solution actually works quite well for me but I'm not sure how casuals would feel about it. What are your thoughts?
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wont have 4 for sure unless they sell it for 150$ or even more. the n64 mini will likely sell for 99$ and controllers will be a big issue this time. some kind of adapter will be compatible with it.
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My prediction is that i'm not standing out all night to get one. Can you imagine if it was this kind of weather on the east coast then??
Then again, they plan on closing 200 Toys R Us stores. A completely different story from September.

If it comes with only 2 controllers, then it is going to get nuts finding the other ones!
I'm really excited to see what Hori plans on releasing.
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The “4 controller” issue is yet another reason to go for GameCube controllers/controller ports in my opinion. It would make getting a full set a whole lot easier, that’s for sure.

But this is Nintendo we’re talking about; I love em but they make little sense sometimes.
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The “4 controller” issue is yet another reason to go for GameCube controllers/controller ports in my opinion. It would make getting a full set a whole lot easier, that’s for sure.
Ultimately this is the smartest solution, isn't it. This is especially true when you consider that Nintendo will probably start selling GameCube controllers again in the future for the inevitable Super Smash Bros. game for the Switch.
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Not sure about what games it would include; I suppose the usual suspects.

What I'm hoping for is 1080P output. A way to play the N64 Zelda titles officially in that resolution would be awesome.
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If Nintendo released the N64 Mini in multiple Funtastic colours (maybe with each one being exclusive to different retailers), I think many of us here will be left with deep holes in our pockets haha.

Can you guys imagine if for Christmas this year they released a limited edition 3-pack console bundle (NES Mini, SNES Mini, N64 Mini) all coloured in Watermelon Red for like $199.99?? :wub:
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If Nintendo does release an N64 Mini this year I have a feeling it'll be even more successful than their two previous classic edition mini consoles. Why? Well, because neither the Raspberry Pi nor the original Wii emulate N64 games very well. Granted, the Virtual Console N64 titles on the Wii and Wii U aren't bad but almost all of them have some minor issue that keeps them from being as good as the original console versions.
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The issues on VC are so minor that it was acceptable enough for Nintendo to release them.
I'm pretty sure the supposed N64 mini will have that problem too though.

Unless they're going to use the same hardware as N64, which I highly doubt.
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Not sure what “more successful” means; I don’t think the n64 mini would outsell the other two because those are absolutely legendary. But maybe I’m not giving the n64 enough credit. Even though it lost to the PlayStation back then its games are perhaps more revered now than even back then.

I predict that Nintendo’s gonna focus on getting the nes and snes minis out more in 2018 first though. 2019 will be the 20th anniversary of Super Smash Bros so maybe the 64 mini could be one of multiple things that coincide with that.
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The issues on VC are so minor that it was acceptable enough for Nintendo to release them.
For the most part I agree although some of the VC ports are much better than others. For example, Mario Kart 64 is really good while at the same time F-Zero X has a lot of ugly tearing of textures. I suspect this is why the tunnel portion of the Sand Ocean track in the Jack Cup was altered.

Anyone who has played F-Zero X on a modern PC with a good graphics card knows that the game can look much better than it did on the original N64 hardware. This is why I hope the N64 Mini is powerful enough to emulate and upscale the original ROMs rather than resort to running the Virtual Console releases.
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What were the issues with the Wii VC releases? I remember people saying that Wii U N64 games had lag issues, something I noticed when trying to do a ground pound in Mario Party 2. I also remember playing Pokémon Stadium 2 on an emulator once and it was very rough. It couldn’t pull up all the textures or something so there were white borders around a lot of stuff.

Apparently this system is notoriously hard to emulate for? I think they’ll want to try harder than ever before to get it right on a dedicated mini 64. It might take time but I think they can pull it off though :)
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Virtual Console on Wii U was laggy for everything. I'm not usually someone who is sensitive to lag, but I first noticed it playing Punch-Out and having a hard time, after that I noticed it on every game and couldn't get it out of my head.

I do think there's probably a notable technological leap required between emulating 16-bit 2D games, to N64, but hey, they finally figured out the FX chip... so there's an abundance of hope!
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I don't really see how lag is an issue for the N64, it's not not like the games are NES games where you need the reflexes of a cat just to barely make it though.

The only people who would need minimal lag are Smash 64 players and speedrunners. But they'll just play on OG hardware with a CRT anyhow.
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one you notice lag, you see it everywhere and it's extremely frustrating. so yes lag does have a really huge impact on playability on n64. not only on smah 64, but on any racers or games that require precision (im looking at you freaking rocket/spaceship level in toy story 2).
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I don't notice lag in the SNES Classic. Does anyone?

It was noticable in the NES Classic, and it didn't stop consumers from going nuts trying to buy one.
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N64 games are no longer available for purchase on the Wii Shop. (Along with the other VC and WiiWare games but it doesn’t sound as dramatic that way)

Do you think this increases the odds of the N64 mini getting announced soon or do things just stay the same?
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Do you think this increases the odds of the N64 mini getting announced soon or do things just stay the same?
I hope it gets announced soon because I'm very eager to find out which games will be included. :w00t:
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Where are we in the year in terms of the announcements of the NES Classic and SNES Classic the last two years? Were they announced by the point in the year in 2016 and 2017? I feel like if we were going to see a N64 Classic this year we would have heard something official from Nintendo by now.
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