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Route 52 toward & along City Line; service adjustments
Topic Started: Oct 3 2006, 04:13 PM (1,503 Views)
CACrafter88bk2504
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joechopchop
May 3 2007, 10:43 AM
CACrafter88bk2504
May 3 2007, 02:05 AM
Or even better, Let Midvale get all of the Broad Street Nite Owl(or split it up with Allegheny and Comly).

COMLY?!?!?!?!?!?!? Are you KIDDING? Dou you realize how long the deadheads from there to Broad Street would be? I just don't see it happening.

Comly should get some of the BSO,. Here is how it COULD work.

SEPTA could insitute BSO express bus service to run to 15th & Market via Bridge, Aramingo, having the trip come off a late on a run on either the 14 20 or 50.

For example, for a pullout, take a late run on route 20 from Parkwood leaving Knights & Mechanicsville Roads @ 11:10pm en route to Brdige & Pratt, bypassing Modena, which is the community bounded by Academy Road between Morrell Avenue & Chalfont Drive, as well as Keswick Road. It will arrive @ Bridge & Pratt. Change operators @ Bridge & Pratt.

Route the trips along the same route that you would use for MFO express bus service from Bridge/Pratt to 15th Street, then convert it into the BSO
to run to Pattison.

For a pullin, have the BSO go as far as 15th from Pattison, run it via I 95 to Bridge Street, to Bridge/Pratt then run an am peak trip on either the 14, 20, 50 & 58.

There is a possibility of offering a one seat ride for residents of South Philadelphia who work out in the many venues of the far Northeast.

If Southern can deadhead their equipment to/ from South Philadelphia before/ after doing a block on shares of the C, 2, 23, 47 & 57, then Comly can do the interlining & deadheads as well. This is SEPTA here. The Southern deadheads are time consuming,e specially when one has to end up in Chestnut Hill on the 23 then deadhead down to South Philadelphia & get snarled in expressway traffic.





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Southern should get only ONE artic. It'll run only on 7215 block, which is a 7/68E/BSO Nightliner. Two and a half rounds on the 7, three on the 68E, and the BSO UPS Special. Those 68 trips have been getting more and more packed because now managers and pilots are catching the bus in and out more because of the rising gas prices.
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Midvale should get all of the 23 and the 2.
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GETTING BACK ON TOPIC....

The 52 should be restructured as follows:

The 52 would retain it's existing routing between 50-Woodland and 54-City, but it should be routed to serve the Presidential Blvd corridor instead of looping via Conshohocken Av & Belmont Av. There's no direct transit access to the office parks on the Lower Merion side of City Line Ave, and routing most day and evening (but not OWL) trips to the Bala Plaza complexes should generate more riders.

The routing between Parkside Loop and Woodland should become part of an extended 12 bus, making limited stops along 52 St between Jefferson St and Baltimore Av, then local to Walnut-Locust along the existing 52 and 12 routing.
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rest in peace to all AN440's that ran the Philadelphia area streets
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septaman
May 3 2007, 01:17 AM
They should take the 65 away from Allegheny and give it all to Callowhill. Septa should also take the MFO away from Comly.

I have not been home in over a year, but to see that suggestion, let Callowhill take over all runs on the 65??? ARE YOU KIDDING??? When I was home in Philly I was a regular 65 rider and it would not make sense to take artics off of the 65. No way in hell.
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The 65 should be taken away from Callowhill and be all Allegheny.
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rest in peace to all AN440's that ran the Philadelphia area streets
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The 65 reminds me a lot of route 18. It's one of SEPTA's "moneymakers", as me and a friend of mine like to put it, that regularly needs artics due to passenger capacity. I also really think the 52 and the R need artics, along with several other routes in the city. But I agree with the fact that the 52 needs to serve the Presidential Blvd area.
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septaman
May 21 2007, 10:10 PM
The 65 should be taken away from Callowhill and be all Allegheny.

Midvale can get all of the 65 for all I care, and Callowhill can get most if not all of the G.
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The 65 is best the way it is - split operation between Allegheny and Callowhill. This will insure that the 65 WILL get 60' foot buses, instead of have to worrying about Midvale screwing up and assigning Eldorados to the route. Which has occurred in the past on several occasions.
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