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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 13 2006, 07:38 PM (4,789 Views) | |
| AdamFlx3204 | Nov 13 2006, 07:38 PM Post #1 |
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I just received a motherlode of old schedules from a Coworker who didn't want them. All are from 1986-1987, and they are: Specially Routed Service (School) for Roxborough and East Falls Specially Routed Service for Germantown, Mt. Airy, and Olney Regional Rail Temple Combined Timetable R1 - West Trenton to Center City R2 - Marcus Hook to Warminster R3 - West Chester/Elwyn to Center City R5 - Doylestown/Lansdale to Center City R6 - Ivy Ridge to Norristown R7 - Chestnut Hill East to Trenton R8 - Chestnut Hill West to Fox Chase Fox Chase-Newtown Shuttle Bus Market Frankford Broad St. Subway Combined Glenside to Melrose Park Regional Rail Boulevard Limited (now the 1) 2 - Pulaski-Hunting Park to 20-Johnston 3 - 33-CB Moore to FKD Terminal 4 - OLN Terminal to Fort Washington Office Center 5 - FKD Terminal to 3-Oregon/Marine Term. 6 - OLN Terminal to Cheltenham-Ogontz 7 - 33-Dauphin to Delaware-Oregon 8 - FKD Terminal to OLN Terminal EXPRESS (ex-"FOX") 9 - Andorra to 4-Walnut (CC) 10 - 63-Malvern to 13-Market (City Hall Loop) 11 - Darby Loop to 13-Market (City Hall Loop) 12 - 50-Woodland to 5-Market (CC) 13 - Yeadon/Darby to 13-Market (City Hall Loop) 14 - FKD Terminal to Neshaminy Mall/Oxford Valley Mall 15 - 63-Girard to Richmond-Westmoreland (streetcar) 17 - Navy Base/20-Johnston to Front-Market (PL) 18 - Wyndmoor to Fox Chase 19 - FKD Terminal to Torresdale Regional Sta (Grant-State) 20 - FKD Terminal to Parkwood Manor/Brookwood (pre-Franklin Mills) 21 (formerly D) - 69th Terminal/Wycombe to Front-Market (PL) 22 - OLN Terminal to Warminster 23 - Chestnut Hill to 10-Bigler (streetcar) 25 - FKD Terminal to Cedar-Lehigh/Margaret-Lefevre (much shorter than present) 26 - FKD Terminal/Rising Sun-Olney to Rittenhouse-Pulaski 27 - Barren Hill to Broad-South (CC) 28 - Torresdale-Cottman to Fox Chase 29 - 33-Dickinson to Front-Tasker (ETB) 30 - 65-Vine to 30-Market/40-Market 31 - 76-City to Juniper-Commerce (CC) 32 - Andorra/Roxborough to Broad-South (CC) 33 - 23-Venango to Front-Market (PL) 34 - 61-Baltimore to Juniper-Market (City Hall Loop) 35 - Manayunk-Roxborough Loop 36 - Eastwick Loop tp Juniper-Market (City Hall Loop) 37 - Broad-Snyder to Chester 38 - Bala Cynwyd to 6-Chestnut (CC) 39 - 33-Dauphin to Richmond-Cumberland 40 - Parkside Loop to 2-Lombard 42 - 61-Pine to 2-Spruce (CC) 43 - Parkside Loop to Front-Spring Garden 44G - Gladwyne to 5-Market (CC) 46 - 63-Malvern to Darby Loop 47 - 5-Godfrey to 9-Oregon 48 - 27-Allegheny to Front-Market (PL) 50 - Rising Sun-Olney/Knorr to 6-Oregon/4-Ritner 52 - 54-City to 50-Woodland/58-Lindbergh 53 - Wayne-Carpenter to 10-Luzerne 54 - 33-Dauphin to Richmond-Cambria 56 - 23-Venango to Torresdale-Cottman (streetcar) 57 - Fern Rock/Front-Dauphin to Susquehanna-Girard/29-Jefferson/Front-Dauphin 58 - FKD Terminal to Bustleton/Neshaminy Mall 59 - Castor-Bustleton to ARR Terminal (ETB) 60 - 35-Allegheny to Richmond-Westmoreland 61 - Ridge-Summit/Flat Rock Rd. to 9-Sansom (CC) 63 - Front-Washington to Grays Ferry-Christian 64 - Wyalusing-Lancaster to Front-Washington 66 - FKD Terminal to Frakford-City Line (ETB) 67 - FKD Terminal to Parkwood Manor 69 - 54-City to Green-Main (Manayunk) 73 - FKD Terminal to Richmond-Westmoreland 75 - Wayne-Windrim to ARR Terminal (ETB) 76 - (ex MCL?, pre Ben Frankline) 19-JFK to 5-Market 79 - 29-Snyder to Delaware-Snyder (ETB) 81 - Presidential-City to Springfield Mall 84 - FKD Terminal to Forest Hills Regional Ral 88 - FKD Terminal to Pennypack Woods/Holy Redeemer Hosp. 89 - 2-Erie to Delaware-Tioga 90 - 27-South to 3-Pine 91 - Norristown to Graterford Limited 92 - King of Prussia to West Chester 93 - Norristown to Pottstown 94 - Chestnut Hill to Montgomery Mall 97 - Penn Square to Spring Mill 99 - Norristown to Royersford 100 - Norristown HSL (Bullet/EL era) 101 - Media to 69th Terminal trolley 102 - Sharon Hill to 69th Terminal trolley 103 - Ardmore to 69th Terminal 104 - West Chester to 69th Terminal 105 - Ardmore/Paoli to 69th Terminal 106 - Ardmore to 69th Terminal 107 - Springfield Mall to 69th Terminal 108 - 67-Elmwood to 69th Terminal 109 - Chester to 69th Terminal 110 - Granite Run Mall/Penn State Lima to 69th Terminal 111 - Springfield Mall to 69th Terminal 112 - Lawrence Park/Del Co. CC to 69th Terminal 113 - Marcus Hook to 69th Terminal 114 - Darby Loop to Boothwyn 115 - Delmar Village to Ardmore 116 - Chester to Village Green/Granite Run Mall 117 - Feltonville to Granite Run Mall/Penn State Lima 118 - Chester to Newtown Square 120 EXPRESS - Newtown Sq./Cheyney Univ to 69th Terminal 126 - Paoli to Great Valley Corp. Ctr. 127 - Morrisville to Oxford Valley Mall/Penndel 128 - Bristol to Oxford Valley Mall 129 - Morrell Park (Fkd-City Line) to Oxford Valley Mall C - Cheltenham-Ogontz/Fern Rock to Broad-Geary/Navy Base G - Cardinal-City/Lakenau Hosp. to Galloway-Packer/7-Porter J - Richmond-Orthodox to Wissahickon-Chelten K - Ridge-Midvale to ARR Terminal M - Chevron Gate #19 (S. Phila) to Philadelphia Intl Airport N - (now 24) - Hollywood to FKD Terminal P - (now into 89) - Frankford-Overington to Kensington-Allegheny R - FKD Terminal to Wissahickon Trf. Ctr. U - (now into 108) 62-Woodland to Phila. Intl Airport X - (now 77?) - Jenkintown to Mermaid Loop XA - Fern Rock to Walnut Hills I'm missing at least a handful, as best I can gather the 44, 45, 55 (or is this the XA?), L, H-XH, and Y (now 70). If anyone wants info/maps/photos of these, post it here and I'll do what I can. |
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| AdamFlx3204 | Nov 13 2006, 10:25 PM Post #2 |
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Well, I got a few rough shots of them online...![]() http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l4/mtabu...lly1027/scheds/ There you'll find, by request - The #2 map and schedule - not too much different from today's version. The ill-fated #4 line's map and very sparse schedule. 21 and 44 line maps and schedules - aside from the Wycombe switch, nothing too grand. Not one you requested, but one I find very interesting, the pre-50 merger #57. The hourly "crosstown" along Jefferson and Master Streets is the holdover from the original #57 streetcar. Today's #57 bears little similarity to this route. Again, another one not requested, but again interesting - the #69 Bala-Manayunk. Not too much to it, but interesting. Companion line to the #69 was the #81 (as I learned here, both vanished the same day). It's schedule and map are there. Then we get to some of our lost letters: First up is the rather dosie-do "P" bus - has a pretty good headway though. Then up comes your "U" bus. Here I think the service and connectivity of the current #108 blows this little letter bus out of the water. No luck on the 45 and 49 and such. Also realize I'm missing the 85. Anyone know much about this holdover from the Fairmount Park Trolley? Others in the city stack you might be interested in for being different from today: 25 50 63 76 89 90 M X XA |
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| Septa3371CSX1 | Nov 14 2006, 07:14 AM Post #3 |
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Moderation note: This topic has been split off the older one which was bumped. Although the posts were related, I felt the topic was dead for too long. |
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| Mark | Nov 14 2006, 09:46 PM Post #4 |
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The 85 bus ran from the Parkside Loop to the Dauphin loop via Parkside Ave, Belmont Ave, Ford Rd, over the Strawberry Mansion Bridge, and through a couple of the twisting drives to the 33rd and Dauphin Loop. This was a close appoximation of the old Fairmount Park Trolley route. The schedule was sparse, 30 minutes during rush hours, 45 to 60 minutes other times. Usually one or two buses were sufficient to cover the route. In the early 1980's the bus was rerouted because of the structural weakness of the Strawberry Mansion Bridge. The new route went up Ridge Ave, looped thru the Wissahickon Transfer Center, over the City Ave Bridge, City Ave, Belmont Ave, then a loop route over Ford, Cranston, and Conshohocken Ave, back on Ford Rd to Belmont, then on Belmont to Parkside North, Wynnfield Ave, 54th St, Jefferson, 52nd to parkside then parkside to the 49th St loop. This routing doubled the route's mileage and SEPTA adjusted the schedule to the rush headways of 45 minutes, and off-peak and weekend headways of 90 minutes, to keep the assigment of buses to the bare minimum of one to two buses. The equipment ranged from the Mack C-41's then the "Davy Crocketts" GM old looks, then the rarely seen 1153-1156 TDH3301 New Looks. Then the 1200 series Flxibles ran the route until the 80's, when strangely, full-sized RTS's were assigned to the route. In 1990 the 85 was killed off, with much of the western part of the route [from Parkside Loop to Ford and Cranston] incorporated into the present-day 40. |
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| CACrafter88bk2504 | Nov 15 2006, 08:33 PM Post #5 |
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The 85 used to run along Bryn Mawr Avenue in the Wynnefield area between Wynnefield & Parkside Avenues. |
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| NewFlyer8119 | Nov 17 2006, 10:22 PM Post #6 |
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this is what ive been postin about thx |
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| Van2006ko | Nov 18 2006, 10:12 PM Post #7 |
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Yea, I remember the 85, then for a short period around 1992 or 1993 the 85 used to go to 54th and city avenue and layed over with the 52. As I recall they used to run the 8000 series Neoplans on there. I never recall seeing a 8000 series RTS or 3000 series Neoplans being operated on that route. |
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| IkarusFan | Jul 12 2008, 07:15 PM Post #8 |
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Only 94 Bricks left!!! *in Rob's voice (From FamilyGuy)* OH NO!!!
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To NewFlyer8119: I think that 1987-88 was the last year they printed the schedules in blue. Later on in '88, they started to them in the current black with the bus logo (ie trolley, rail, subway/elevated, trackless trolley logo) symbolizing the "We're Getting There" era. HERE'S what I was talking about: This is from 1992 (The year when I've became a fan of the Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority!) ![]() Note: This is still from the "WE'RE GETTING THERE" era. From 1992.
Edited by IkarusFan, Jul 12 2008, 07:38 PM.
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| Septa_kid | Aug 3 2008, 08:20 AM Post #9 |
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What if...
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hEY, i WAS BORN IN 1992 |
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| CACrafter88bk2504 | Nov 7 2010, 03:31 PM Post #10 |
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Hey man, do you still have those old schedules? I will pay you for each and every one of them. How does $100.00 sound? Get at me. |
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