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Poor heat in TT coaches; Route 66 & 75
Topic Started: Oct 28 2008, 06:40 AM (5,966 Views)
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59-2003 was the TT that got his poles stuck. They got the poles down with a pole puller, no damage.
They got that dead J bus out of there by 11:15 AM or thereabouts, so everything is fine at Arrott.

800 is on the street, maybe just testing. Can somebody post if they see it on a route?

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822 is on 75-2102 today, pretty good heat. They had a stuck coach at Frankford this morning , couldn't get the EPU to start, so they had to tow it out of the way.It had a few coaches blocked.
I'm bringing in my temperature meter today. l will check 822's heat out of the bottom fins.
New Flyer wants to set the thermostats to 72 degrees, but there are some that won't set past 68 degrees.

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The dead coach in the yard was 835.
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When I rode 809 Monday (my first time ever on an ETB), I was too excited to even pay attention to the temperature. it was slightly chilly, but I could stand it if I had to.
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I rode 822 today and had my temperature meter with me. A not too warm 72 to 78 degrees comes out of the finned heating vents at the bottom near the floor. It's 74 degrees at the roof slits, which circulates air. When then coach doors open, the influx of cold air dropped the temperature at the seat I was in 60 , I was on the right by the wheel well. The temperature recovers after the doors are closed. In my opinion, they need hotter air out of those vents. Overall, for most of the time, the coach temperature was tolerable. Another driver said his coach today was frigid, I did not get the number.

As an aside, An El Dorado on the 89 had an engine fire today. Pictures attached , on Oxford ave.

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I noticed on Friday my 104 New Flyer bus was shut off while loading at 69th street. While it was off, we could only load through the front door, probably to save the heat inside the bus.The outside signs displayed West Chester, so I was on the right bus, the inside annunciation strip was off. About 3 minutes before departure, a driver boarded and started it.

Is this a new policy to cut down on idling?

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I was told that all the trackless coaches were stored in Frankford #5 bay last night, because of the snow and ice/freezing rain problems outside. The coaches need extra care, LOL!
That means some buses sat outside.

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When I rode 809 Monday (my first time ever on an ETB), I was too excited to even pay attention to the temperature. it was slightly chilly, but I could stand it if I had to.


I recommend a Trackless ride if you have never done it ,for everybody. It's an extremely classy vehicle. And environmentally friendly, too.

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Jan 10 2009, 01:43 PM
I noticed on Friday my 104 New Flyer bus was shut off while loading at 69th street. While it was off, we could only load through the front door, probably to save the heat inside the bus.The outside signs displayed West Chester, so I was on the right bus, the inside annunciation strip was off. About 3 minutes before departure, a driver boarded and started it.

Is this a new policy to cut down on idling?

Chuck Greene
It's a policy that's been in place throughout the system - it may be new for the Victory division at 69th Street. When temperatures are below or above a certain amount, the engine can be left idling for a little bit longer.

In regards to the Tracklesses, there definitely must be a problem with the thermometer. Think about it - in the summer, those buses were ICY cold. Now the heat isn't going up as high as it should be.

Of course, I'm probably oversimplifying things, if SEPTA, New Flyer, and Thermoking couldn't figure all of this out yet...
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I was told that all the trackless coaches were stored again in Frankford #5 bay last night, because of the snow and ice/freezing rain problems outside. The coaches need extra care, LOL!


Management wants all the TT's parked inside in this cold weather and frost/icy wire time. So you have to start them with EPU, (remember no wires inside the depot bays?). The old directive, leaving them outside on the wire, made the coaches warm , too, but I guess still gave you the frost problem with the poles. So the directive was rethought a little.

Also, all the operators have to fill out a questionnaire every day on the quality of the heat during their run. Looks like SEPTA is trying to solve the TT heat problem. This Thursady & Friday will be a good test, it's going to be extremely cold in Philly.

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