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Southern Depot Receiving Trackless Trolley Wire Work
Topic Started: Oct 8 2009, 09:27 AM (2,571 Views)
CACrafter88bk2504
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Please don't say that.
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SouthernSeptaRida215
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Listen to what you just said "The 29 & 79 are done" meaning they will permanently bustituted. But Septa said "These routes will be "Temporary" Bustituted" and the word temporary don't mean its going to come back next month or the year after. It means Septa needs time to work their plans. And it will happen but it will take time. Listen Septa didn't execute the option for the extra 23 probably because at the time they were primarily focused on the Northeast Trackless Trolley. Now with some Barack Obama Stimulus we've seen Septa execute an extra 40 buses for the 09 Hybrid batch. Right now it looks like Septa is working on Southern Trackless Trolley Infrastructure to bring them back. Because if Septa was really hostile against Southern and Trackless they would take down the wires to make it official but no they don't.
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SouthernSeptaRida215
Oct 10 2009, 08:46 AM
Listen to what you just said "The 29 & 79 are done" meaning they will permanently bustituted. But Septa said "These routes will be "Temporary" Bustituted" and the word temporary don't mean its going to come back next month or the year after. It means Septa needs time to work their plans. And it will happen but it will take time. Listen Septa didn't execute the option for the extra 23 probably because at the time they were primarily focused on the Northeast Trackless Trolley. Now with some Barack Obama Stimulus we've seen Septa execute an extra 40 buses for the 09 Hybrid batch. Right now it looks like Septa is working on Southern Trackless Trolley Infrastructure to bring them back. Because if Septa was really hostile against Southern and Trackless they would take down the wires to make it official but no they don't.
I agree with you. Of all the times I've been on both the 29 and the 79, it's just doesn't have the feel those routes once had before 2003.
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Philly Transport
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I won't be sitting around waiting for 23 additional trackless trolleys that will never be delivered for 2 lines that will never see a trackless again. I would've loved to have seen trackless trolleys operate out of southern once more but i also have no problem facing the truth. SEPTA will not be ordering any trackless trolleys for the 29 and 79!!!!!
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What should happen is SEPTA get some Artic-trackless for the 66 , and send the spare coaches down to Southern.

But we know what will not happen.......

I rode Artic-trackless in San Francisco this summer, pretty wild. They were on the 49-Van Ness line.
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TransitChuckG
Oct 12 2009, 06:02 PM
What should happen is SEPTA get some Artic-trackless for the 66 , and send the spare coaches down to Southern.

But we know what will not happen.......

I rode Artic-trackless in San Francisco this summer, pretty wild. They were on the 49-Van Ness line.
Chuck that is a possibility, but who will know if Septa would go after Artic-Trackless because that will interesting to see. Also All (I think) you need to cover the 29 & 79 (If Trackless was Restored) is about 5-8 ETBs on the 29 & 79. So I think all Frankford would need to send to Southern is about 20 ETBs if Septa went after Articulated-Trackless Trolleys.
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TransitChuckG
Oct 12 2009, 11:02 PM

What should happen is SEPTA get some Artic-trackless for the 66 , and send the spare coaches down to Southern.

But we know what will not happen.......

I rode Artic-trackless in San Francisco this summer, pretty wild. They were on the 49-Van Ness line.

Chuck that is a possibility, but who will know if Septa would go after Artic-Trackless because that will interesting to see. Also All (I think) you need to cover the 29 & 79 (If Trackless was Restored) is about 5-8 ETBs on the 29 & 79. So I think all Frankford would need to send to Southern is about 20 ETBs if Septa went after Articulated-Trackless Trolleys.


You say 20 for Southern, look how close that number is to 23, the add-on order that was canceled?
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Update: No Trackless Trolley Work has been done since the start of this topic, I will keep this topic updated on a weekly basis. It still is unclear for why Southern is receiving trackless trolley work
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