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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 23 2009, 08:41 PM (422 Views) | |
| Septaboy5400 | Nov 23 2009, 08:41 PM Post #1 |
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I love Nabi septa buses. They are my favorite buses to ride on besides the neoplan articulated buses. I think Midvale has the most nabis. If the neoplan an440's were running for at least 18-21 years why would they stop Nabi buses at 12 years. I want to know why they are retiring them at 12 years old!!! |
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| Van2006ko | Nov 23 2009, 08:45 PM Post #2 |
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http://www.philadelphiatransitvehicles.info/Current_fleet_Assignments.php - scroll down to Midvale, you should do a search around the board/site before making posts! |
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| Nabi60SFW9620 | Nov 23 2009, 08:49 PM Post #3 |
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Chances are the NABIs maximum life span will be 14 years. SEPTA plans to reduce the fleet age to the minimum FTA requirement of 12 years as its more efficient to have buses no older then 12 years since older buses cost more to maintain then newer buses. That goes for almost all vehicles out there. I feel Im saving more money with my new car I got then I was with my old car. |
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| silverliner_2 | Nov 24 2009, 12:08 AM Post #4 |
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The FTA could look to Canada. The minimum lifespan for transit buses as per Transport Canada up there is 18 years, with exceptions allowed if there are extenuating circumstances (which allowed the TTC to retire their Orion-Ikarus articulateds and Orion VI CNG's well before their life expectancy expired). Only in Canada have I been able to ride fishbowls that are close to or over 30 years old and still going strong! Hamilton Street Railway has buses that are 20 years old that are still rolling (though they may be replaced next year). The 12-year life expectancy here in the States is only a minimum guide, as is the 18-year requirement in Canada. There is nothing that would prohibit SEPTA from keeping a bus fleet longer than 12 years, especially if it was well maintained and still operating reliably. The last of SEPTA's Flxibles and Fishbowls bowed out in 1990, with about 15 to 17 years of operation. The RTS buses went to that big depot in the sky after a 16 to 17-year run. And of course, the last Neoplan AN440's made it to 19 years of operation (and in fact, all the Neoplan groups managed a minimum of 14 to 15 years here). The Ikarus/NABI buses are soon rolling into their 13th and 14th year of operation. With proper maintenance, we could have them longer (as in beyond 2012)....but not going to happen. It is already hard enough to realize that our original New Flyer order will be going into it's 9th year of service in 2010..... |
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