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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 20 2011, 11:36 AM (792 Views) | |
| Tritransit Area | Sep 20 2011, 11:36 AM Post #1 |
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Transit Enthusiast
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Whenever you get mad at SEPTA for raising fares or being late, just think of Detroit. I just read that out of 449, only 108-200 are working! That makes the problems with SEPTA's trackless trolleys and PCC IIs seem like a minor inconvenience. Here is a link to the article: http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/council-holds-hearing-on-ddot-bus-problems-20110916-mr |
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| Van2006ko | Sep 20 2011, 08:06 PM Post #2 |
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Foamer
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Break their union and subcontract the work out to people who can obtain the parts and have the experience to do the job. If a subcontractor does not do the job, then subcontract it to someone else. It's a simple solution, of course someone on here will disagree, but DDOT will save money because they do not have to worry about insurance costs, employment match, and no more union bickering. |
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| Ken S. | Sep 20 2011, 10:00 PM Post #3 |
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P&W Silverliner Anyone?
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Paging David Gunn, you're wanted in Detroit. |
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| Trainwizard | Sep 21 2011, 09:12 AM Post #4 |
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You must have rabies because you foam too much!ˇ!ˇ!
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What a shame. I'm headed to that city next month. |
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| Tritransit Area | Sep 21 2011, 09:27 AM Post #5 |
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This isn't a case of the union demanding more in wages and benefits as we typically hear from certain unions. The problems run very deep. Here's more details about the council meeting that I was pointed to earlier today. http://voiceofdetroit.net/2011/09/20/bus-workers-riders-blast-bing/ Apparently, even "subcontracting the maintenance" lead to buses being in horrible shape and the mechanics having to dedicate time to "fix them". I've heard this from some SEPTA fans/workers as well.
Trainwizard: Rent a car if you go out there (and of course, grab pics if you see a bus running!). Ken S: Don't think David Gunn would want to deal with that mess, not would he be able to do much with the apparently lack of interest from the Mayor. It's fairly obvious that they need to work with the union on work rules/work environment, having the right amount of people available (maybe even temporary benefit-free part-timers) to help fix the buses. Like one person said in the article, there are a number of "going green" grants available that the city could potentially use. They have a lot to think about... |
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| Tritransit Area | Sep 21 2011, 09:31 AM Post #6 |
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Also, quite frankly, it may be time for a private operator that knows what it is doing to manage the system. At least the private organization would have a vested interest in making sure things are working properly as it would hurt them in the pocket if things don't work. |
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| Ken S. | Sep 21 2011, 10:40 AM Post #7 |
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P&W Silverliner Anyone?
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Provided that the city holds it accountable. Unlike how NJT handles its contractors (of which Veolia is one). |
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